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fezzik · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 131

Not saying they're not, but I've tried that, every which way I can think of, and nothing came up.

**Posted:** Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:22 pm

Zagaan · Boot Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 36

Don't know if I'm shooting completely in the dark here, but sometimes i get the feeling that he seems to be talking to us. And not Carl. Or...we are "Carl". I don't know if it's just because it's 1am here, but I just get that feeling sometimes. When he wrote on twitter:

**Posted:** Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:07 am

Swiddow · Kilroy Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Posts: 1

Hello!

I'm new to this wonderful world of ARG'ing, and was directed here by a friend of mine. I find this whole aspect very appealing, the story, the puzzle, etc. Anyways, I just spent the past 3-4 hours reading this entire forum post, and also the site and wiki posts. I'm kinda new to all of this, but I'm willing to lend a helping hand, as well as another mind to the mix.

Most of the things I was noticing were brought up later on through the posts, but I don't recall seeing a few things mentioned. Just let me know if I'm thinking along the right lines, or just waaaaay off the path here.

I personally don't know where to go with these, just things I found odd, and out of place.

For one, the sentence from the page "Peaches" might be referring to the song by the Presidents of the United States of America.

Also been generally wondering about the other pages that seem to be mostly over-looked in the grand scheme of things (Although I know the whole smokescreen thing would make one want to dissuade from that.). For example, the comment at the bottom of DogLady, and other pages with seemingly pointless information.

I'm probably just stating the obvious here, or just what everyone else is already trying to figure out, and, like me, can only spot the oddities, not explain them. But I just thought I'd try to chip in. I was considering contacting hatshoe, but I don't know if (s)he needs any more e-mail conversations to look after.

Hope I can be of more help in the future, and will post if I have a "breakthrough".

Edit: I agree with Zagaan's theory of Carl being us, as a whole, or a certain individual who has been here awhile, I'm not sure, but I feel as if there's something there, but that's just me. I was going to try to see if the posts on Twitter coincided with other events, but I've not got around to figuring out the times for the pages yet.

**Posted:** Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:55 am

fezzik · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 131

Finally heard back from Hatshoe. My last email to him - about 3 and a half weeks ago - was, in code, "Where is the rest of pill", by which I meant the cut-off entry Sleeping Pill. His response was "Thank you for your diligence, friend. However, at this moment, this is not a crucial matter. Perhaps in time. Or out of it."

He sent this as an image, which I'm going to upload to the wiki.

Take-aways:
1) Finding the rest of pill isn't important.
2) Whatever this story is, it involves time travel, or the manipulation of time in some way.
3) Hatshoe is "back" (if he ever left).

**Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:12 pm

fezzik · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 131

Also, new entry: "Mark".

I no longer have any idea what's going on. Randomness is our only nourishment and obfuscation our lone companion.

**Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:20 pm

fezzik · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 131

There is an interesting comment in the source code for that page:

**Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:30 pm

Zagaan · Boot Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 36

@Fezzik Hatshoe sent the mark to Chaos in response to the 8(or infinity sign if you look at it another way) Chaos sent him. Either Chaos hit gold with receiving that mark or Hatshoe is just being random. And I think it's not the latter. Of course the source code is interesting too...This game is picking up pace.

**Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:49 pm

cbangel84 · Boot Joined: 11 Nov 2009 Posts: 14

It's about time he gives us something that will lead us in a direction.

**Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:33 pm

Zagaan · Boot Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 36

I have been debating if colors are significant in Hatshoe's works. So I decided to give Hatshoe an email regarding my suspicions... Dunno for sure if this is a hint, but I think it is. From me:

**Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:41 pm

Perd�ElJuego · Guest

I think Hatshoe made an email and he wants us to figure out the password.

**Posted:** Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:49 pm

msheadwound · Decorated Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 182 Location: Ohio

New Twitter post:

**Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:24 pm

Zagaan · Boot Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 36

4 hours and 0 minutes left. I will probably go play SOASE to pass by the time. Then we all meet at a chatroom and everyone try to find hatshoe on omegle? We need to find a question to ask him... So we NEED a chatroom? Anyone willing to make one(I'm not too good at that Sad

) I'll be back later friends.

**Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:05 pm

Perd�ElJuego · Guest

omg lol omegle

When exactly did he write that?

**Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:07 pm

Zagaan · Boot Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 36

On another note...I believe it's settled that "Carl" is the codename for the players? Or hatshoe could just be using that name to talk to us without talking to us. In my opinion, It's also sorta settled that he uses the chans. That's where I found omegle ahahaha. From what I garnered, it seems he will answer only ONE question. So this is another reason why we need to get a chatroom up and running before time. We should then have settled on a question to ask. We could also ask for an answer to a hidden clue. That would push us forward without the risk of getting babble from him about other subjects... That's all, folks. Meet ya in a couple. @Perdi, he wrote that aproximately 52 minutes ago by my timing. I caught it before it turned into (an hour ago).

**Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:12 pm