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FreeAgent
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 		Just came up:

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What appears broken often is not, what appears to work often does not.


Sounds like we're on the right track with that second file.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:32 pm
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@AUZ505 The King is trapped, indeed. In more than one way. Unlock to find to unlock to find to unlock to find to unlock to find.
5 minutes ago from web in reply to AUZ505


We've got the lock, but what are the keys? Keys might be whatever we failed to grok in that alt text from content. Also, given the other tweet, I gotta wonder...

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@AUZ505 Listen to the bowls, look into the imagery, follow you intuition. You must first leap.
about 1 hour ago from web in reply to AUZ505


... Stupid bowls... No, speeding up the sound does not generate something cool in the background. Neither does slowing it down. Although, listening to the channels separately, they really aren't identical. That's channels, not files. The files are identical, but the left channel is patterned just a little differently from the right, and very consistently so. Makes me wonder very strongly if the sound isn't artificial -- generated from a waveform, rather than recorded.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:40 pm
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FreeAgent
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Mehetabel wrote:
... Stupid bowls... No, speeding up the sound does not generate something cool in the background. Neither does slowing it down. Although, listening to the channels separately, they really aren't identical. That's channels, not files. The files are identical, but the left channel is patterned just a little differently from the right, and very consistently so. Makes me wonder very strongly if the sound isn't artificial -- generated from a waveform, rather than recorded.


Maybe by "listen to the bowls" he means the actual text (or alt/hidden text) that was associated with a given bowl, as opposed to the sound file.

Then again, if he removed all the content, maybe not.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:26 pm
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Mehetabel
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FreeAgent wrote:
Mehetabel wrote:
... Stupid bowls... No, speeding up the sound does not generate something cool in the background. Neither does slowing it down. Although, listening to the channels separately, they really aren't identical. That's channels, not files. The files are identical, but the left channel is patterned just a little differently from the right, and very consistently so. Makes me wonder very strongly if the sound isn't artificial -- generated from a waveform, rather than recorded.


Maybe by "listen to the bowls" he means the actual text (or alt/hidden text) that was associated with a given bowl, as opposed to the sound file.

Then again, if he removed all the content, maybe not.


Well, we do have everything from /content/ saved and indexed. I'm pretty sure there's something in the alt text from the bowl images, but twice-damned if I've found it, yet.

Alt text provides the letters: h,T,F,E,L,u,E.

Code:
ROT-0    hTFELuE
ROT-1    iUGFMvF
ROT-2    jVHGNwG
ROT-3    kWIHOxH
ROT-4    lXJIPyI
ROT-5    mYKJQzJ
ROT-6    nZLKRaK
ROT-7    oAMLSbL
ROT-8    pBNMTcM
ROT-9    qCONUdN
ROT-10   rDPOVeO
ROT-11   sEQPWfP
ROT-12   tFRQXgQ
ROT-13   uGSRYhR
ROT-14   vHTSZiS
ROT-15   wIUTAjT
ROT-16   xJVUBkU
ROT-17   yKWVClV
ROT-18   zLXWDmW
ROT-19   aMYXEnX
ROT-20   bNZYFoY
ROT-21   cOAZGpZ
ROT-22   dPBAHqA
ROT-23   eQCBIrB
ROT-24   fRDCJsC
ROT-25   gSEDKtD


Anagrams for original text:
Code:
Feel Hut
Flee Hut
Fleet Uh
Thee Flu
Felt Hue
Left Hue
Flute He
Flute Eh
Flue The
Fuel The


ROT-23, which came into play on the Roman bust, yields no anagrams, here. The PurpleHell cryptogram solver has no suggestions.

... wait... wasn't there a comment about fuel? No, I'm hallucinating. I was thinking of
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@AUZ505 The bowl is a bell sometimes. The book is read by night. What brings the light? What feeds it?


In which case, is the answer to "What feeds it?" "The Fuel"?

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proudcockatrice @thirdrealm I am trying to listen to the bowls. I think they tell me that the light is fed by 'the fuel', but I may not be hearing clearly.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:24 am
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FreeAgent
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 		We're certainly getting closer.

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@proudcockatrice You hear clearly. What provides the light? What is the light? What fuels the light? See things for their essence.

FreeAgent_ @thirdrealm It would seem that fire is the provider, fuel, and source of light. But then that could be said of a number of things...

@FreeAgent_ It would seem. Almost. You walk within the shadow of the answer. Deconstruct.


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 		Essence. I'm guessing that's a key point, along with shadow.

We have the bowl, the book, and the candle. The bowl is ... brass, at a glance. Books are generally paper, sometimes with cardboard, cloth, or leather. Candles are wax and ... wick -- what's that, cotton?

Essence in the 'bell, book, and candle' Catholic sense is likely to be the 'light of god' or the soul or some such thing. Light... excommunication, demonology ... Lucifer? (which awesomely enough is an old name for sulphur matches.)

Wikipedia sez:
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The phrase "bell, book, and candle" refers to an archaic method of excommunication for one who had committed a particularly grievous sin. Apparently introduced around the late 9th century, the practice was once used by the Roman Catholic Church. This ceremony involved a bishop, with 12 priests, reciting an oath on the altar:

We separate him, together with his accomplices and abettors, from the precious body and blood of the Lord and from the society of all Christians; we exclude him from our Holy Mother, the Church in Heaven, and on earth; we declare him excommunicate and anathema; we judge him damned, with the Devil and his angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire until he shall recover himself from the toils of the devil and return to amendment and to penitence.

After reciting this the priests would respond "So be it!" The bishop would ring a bell to evoke a death toll, close a holy book to symbolize the excommunicant's separation from the church, and snuff out a candle or candles, knocking them to the floor to represent the target's soul being extinguished and removed from the light of God.


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proudcockatrice @thirdrealm In the ritual of bell,book,&candle, the candle is the soul, blown out and dropped to remove from it the light of god. Essential?

thirdrealm @proudcockatrice You walk in the shadow of the answer. Deconstruct.

thirdrealm What is the function of the thing? What are it's parts? What is it's element?

thirdrealm The keys are in your hand. However, you sit, entranced by the finger pointing and ignore the moon it points to.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:13 pm
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JBlaze
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 		So, yesterday while at work I had a realization.

I got home from work and saw this on thirdrealms's twitter:

"thirdrealm: It is night here. I retire to read, surrounded by darkness, provided with a small halo of light. I give thanks for these things."

After seeing that, I knew I was right. so I sent this.

"Brahmanite @thirdrealm: I was just going to say. Darkness is what fuels the light where I am from. The emptiness of a bell makes the sound."

Upon returning home today I had this waiting:

"thirdrealm: The keys are in your hand. However, you sit, entranced by the finger pointing and ignore the moon it points to."


I am very in to Taoism and I realized that Thirdrealm's recent 'riddlings' have been playing on the theories of 'duality', which is a big thing in Taoism.

"It is night here. I retire to read, surrounded by darkness, provided with a small halo of light. I give thanks for these things.
about 23 hours ago from web

thirdrealm What is the function of the thing? What are it's parts? What is it's element?
1:35 PM Oct 20th from web



thirdrealm I retire to my seeing chamber now, to emerge tomorrow when day breaks."

All of those statements lead me to believe that Thirdrealm is trying to say that the fuel for light, the one thing that is necessary for light to be effective and to even exist is Darkness. Without darkness we have no idea what light is, without darkness we have no light.

We need to look within the darkness.

Same goes for the Tibetan Singing Bowls. The part of the bowl that makes the sound possible is its emptiness, the hollowness within.

A good way of demonstrating this principle is with a standard clock that has 'hands'. This clock has marks at certain intervals that indicate periods of time. Well, with the principle of duality it is not the marks that are important, but the 'space' in between them that is relevant or that makes the marks significant.

I hope this helps.

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JBlaze
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 		Oh, and I also sent this after my first message.

"Brahmanite @thirdrealm You are treading on thin ice possessing such imagery my friend.
about 23 hours ago from web

Brahmanite @thirdrealm I am becoming dizzy and entranced staring at the king, hahaha?
about 23 hours ago from web"

I am not sure how much research you all have done on this but there is a lot of history about the yellow king. I wont give many details cuz you should find it yourself but some stories go that there is a symbol (which IS in THE image) that was created by an 'unearthly' being which upon viewing can cause vast hypnosis and even possession. It is also said that one who holds or possesses this symbol becomes completely insane and maybe even possessed by the very creature.

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 		Yeah, we found that. To repeat the links from a couple pages ago, the King in Yellow and the Yellow Sign. I pointed out already that the Yellow Sign is printed on the back of the King's chair.

The question is what to do with that information...

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proudcockatrice @thirdrealm Without darkness, there is no light. Without hollowness, there is no sound. Without the King, no book? Without the book,no King?
5 minutes ago from web

thirdrealm @proudcockatrice Without the darkness no light. Without the wax no *candle*. Without the candle no ___ . Without ___ no ____.
2 minutes ago from web in reply to proudcockatrice


Without the candle, no fire? Without the candle no light, without the light no shadow?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:28 pm
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 		yes, maybe "without the light, no Darkness"

We should play with the lighting.

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 		I am not very good in understanding mystic clues. So no idea what to do with those tweeds ThirdRealm is sending.

EDIT:
new tweet which is a little but less mystic
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The Candle found, the key to the King. The source of light and what feeds it, to be named.


So what is the source of light and what feeds it?
And what to do if we know it?
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 		The source of light
Finall got it.

The source of light is not fire, but
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

flame
leading to http://thirdrealm.org/flame/


and what feeds it:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

oxygen
leading to http://thirdrealm.org/oxygen/


now looking into it.
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 		Oh, man, you're my hero, right now. I've been boggling about this shit for hours, now. *runs off to look*

Code:
<p><img src="BohemianWaxwing2002-03-001.jpg" title="The domain of the birdsong" alt="The Domain of the birdsong" width="612" height="638"></p>
  <p>The domain of the bird song.  </p>


Uhh... birds go tweet, don't they? The domain of the birdsong is ... twitter?

*looks up bohemian waxwings*
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The call is a pleasant ringing sound, similar to that of the Cedar Waxwing but lower pitched.


Bohemian waxwings ... ring?

From the video, the first obvious thing is "13093". Looked it up, got the zip for a place called Lycoming, NY, an asteroid, an antibody, and something that is probably irrelevant -- a commentary on John Nash's schizophrenia, which is entertaining in light of the history of the Yellow Sign.

Unfortunately, I kind of suck at reading lips, and can't tell what the man is saying at 0:40.
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 		Tweeds
Some Tweeds:
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thirdrealm @AUZ505 If you have the keys, you also have the locks. First, free the Yellow King.

AUZ505 @thirdrealm now we have keys, but I do not see locks...

thirdrealm The keys are three: Candle, Flame, Oxygen. When all keys are found, they are used to unlock locks. Each at least one, some more.


So the candle, flame and oxygen can help with this strange Yellow King file. But I do not know how. I even do not know if the words itself are the keys or the sites they led to (whereas there is no candle-site).

So how could they help in decoding this file. The file is no zip, no rar and no camouflaged file. Any other idea how this file could be encoded using those words as passwords?

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 		Recent Video
btw, there is an image of the King in Yellow on the main page along with a quote mentioning random stuff, resonance, and existence... but maybe I'm trouting that >_>

<--- Previous Lurker noticing things in the video::

NOTE:: I'm not spoiler-ing what I have noticed. I am new to the forum and the ARG universe though, so please let me know if I'm going too deep, mentioning the obvious, or not tagging a spoiler properly as such. Thanks!

There is a recurring theme of patterns. ((listed in order of appearance))
The repeating voice in the background (takes about four seconds to loop through the numbers)
The first schematic (four identical quadrants)
the image immediately following for only a few moments (consisting of four repeated bird silhouettes) ((or in a continuation of the religious theme of last puzzle, it could be a cross made with the light image in the 'void' not occupied by the birds ((possibly more Taoist philosophy)) ))
The image superimposed on an iris after "Don't Blink" and the countdown (comprised of four interlinked circles )
The 'kaleidoscopic image' of the man (beginning at :26)
the figure in black, mirrored in the video (beginning at :45)
the increasingly complex circles (comprised of increasingly complicated patterns)
the many-square-pattern(around 1:08)


The reading his lips might turn out to be "one for more forest" which doesn't make any sense, or maybe "wait for more first". I'm pretty sure the second and third words are almost right, but the first and fourth are pretty difficult.

I got nothin' on the inversion of light/dark with the man in the video. Anyone got anything on that? Also, what does his arm say?

Also, there are two numbers she says at the end of the video ("two" and "eight")


Thoughts?
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