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msheadwound
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TNC wrote:
Nahh, doesn't give a specific date other than 2006. However, that doesn't prove you false, nor me right.


I could have sworn it was in the Introduction video, but I just went and watched, and it wasn't. The idea it was filmed over the summer is in mentioned in the expanded introduction on SA quoted here by morscata12.

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It was called Marble Hornets and I think it was about a twenty something returning to his childhood home and recalling events that happened there. It was pretty pretentious film student fare, but I helped out for a few days before my summer classes started, and a few rare occasions after that.

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kevrock
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TheAtroxious wrote:
Look at this image, there is something curious about it. It looks to be as if either Tim had another face superimposed over his, or (less likely in my opinion, but still possible) he moved just as the video cut out, distorting his own image between the capture of movement and the still shot.


What I found interesting about this first distortion was that it isn't like the pixelation that occurs after, its more like a de-focus.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:04 am
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fyo
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Posted this on SA and figured I'd crosspost here:

I didn't pick up on this myself at first, but it's been brought up a couple times either here or on unfiction that Alex may have actually noticed SM in the window.

It is weird how he suddenly cuts Tim off and asks where Brian is. Also, it doesn't make sense to me why he'd keep the camera running while they're talking. It'd take a second to press the record button a couple times and you'd think that'd make things a lot easier for when he goes through the footage later on--it'd be a pain to have to skip through the irrelevant parts later on.

Maybe people who know a thing or two about film school could chime in.

In any case, here's my film-school naive analysis:

A) J stepping into the frame and facing the window seems to be intended to suggest that he is not being seen by the naked eye.

*However we know that people saw him with their own eyes in entry 12, so this is variable. It seems that
the subjectivity of human perception can be exploited by whatever it is that SM does.

B) The fact that Alex cuts Tim short so quickly could be telling us that Alex has seen SM. If A is true, it would mean that he had looked into the camera and seen SM, and also looked with his own eyes and didn't see him.

C) If B is true, then the fact that Alex doesn't freak out means he's somewhat familiar with the phenomenon. This seems like a pretty solid conclusion if B is true.

D) The first thing Alex asks is 'where's Brian?' There are two reasons for this that I can see:
1 - Alex suspects Brian is playing a prank, although this seems unlikely given A
2 - Alex and Brian are both aware of SM, so he wants to show Brian that SM is showing up on the camera.

(Another explenation for J stepping into the frame may be that they're just trying to show that he's there. Although I don't think it's that simple, since the creators would've been aware of how telling it could be having J face SM directly--they would have probably just had him keep his back to the window if this were the case. My suggesting (A) seems like a better conclusion.)

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The World Ends With You
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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
TNC wrote:
I honestly think we're reading slightly too much into J's jacket-wearing habit.

Truth be told, once the seasons begin to shift, from summer to fall, the temperature drops, and you'd be a liar if you've never seen someone wearing a jacket in early Fall and thought they were exaggerating slightly. Perhaps the jacket was meant to give us a sense of time, not mental health. Perhaps the reason they didn't react to Slenderman, rather then him being "Dim," or invisible to the eye at his will, they thought he was a Halloween decoration?


I'd be more inclined to agree with you if J didn't say "it's really cold in here". He was also wearing a hat, and Tim was in a t-shirt (we can probably assume Alex was too). It also looked like mid-summer to me, from what I could see out the window. Plus, Alex made a point to state that he was comfortable, whereas J was bundled up. He says it felt like the AC was cranked up in the room. I maintain that J being cold was because he was being affected by Slenderman.


Seriously? Have you ever been in a house or building where the AC was cranked up and it was freezing cold?

True, we don't know what the weather was like outside, but that means we can't assume either way on that just based on a blurry glimpse of the outside from that window.

Plus, everyone has different tolerance for the weather. Also, what happens if had a small cold or something, and that can cause a person to be cold. We just don't know.

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Mafkees
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Do you all notice that the shadow of Tim is messed up, it has the exact same effect that the S has in a video from Totheark (Can't remember wich one a.t.m.) and the S is the exact same S that Tim has on his t shirt in one of the earlyer entries.

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Does Alex do a double take when he looks out the window after handing Tim the water?

If so, he didn't seem at all bothered.

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Hm. The "S" on Tim's shirt in Entry 9 seems more a part of the abstract design to me, but I don't know.

And the stigma in the TTA video was just kind of wavery. Tim's shadow was full out noise-enhanced. I'd need a bit more evidence before concluding something from that.

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hmm
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Okay so I'm brand new to this as of roughly last week, but I noticed a few things that I don't think people really seemed to note (unless I missed them, in which case I'm sorry).

1) This is a quick throwback to Entry 14 - this might be stating the obvious, but did anyone notice how after Slenderman came in the bedroom, Alex turned on the light and he disappeared? My guess on this was that Slenderman disappeared out of sudden detection or something. I also thought initially it was because of the light, but clearly that can't be true. If someone could clue me in on what people are deducing about that I think I'd be a lot less confused.

2) Umm, again looking at Entry 14, Slenderman is TALL. The guy has to bend down to get in a generic doorway. Why is it that Tim is taller than him in this video? It's very strange, as I do believe he's on a ground floor. Also, why does Tim keep looking at the camera so directly when he's talking to Alex? It's not fitting in my head.

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fhbfda wrote:
Does Alex do a double take when he looks out the window after handing Tim the water?

If so, he didn't seem at all bothered.


No, he didn't take a double take, because Alex didn't hand Tim the water, J did.

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I'd say this is probably the creepiest entry yet, right up there with 6, 7 and 14. The way he's just staring the whole time gives me chills.

totheark's going to have a field day with this, no doubt. I wouldn't be shocked if his response was like the last one, where he's just watching them all.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Re: hmm
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K wrote:
Okay so I'm brand new to this as of roughly last week, but I noticed a few things that I don't think people really seemed to note (unless I missed them, in which case I'm sorry).

1) This is a quick throwback to Entry 14 - this might be stating the obvious, but did anyone notice how after Slenderman came in the bedroom, Alex turned on the light and he disappeared? My guess on this was that Slenderman disappeared out of sudden detection or something. I also thought initially it was because of the light, but clearly that can't be true. If someone could clue me in on what people are deducing about that I think I'd be a lot less confused.

2) Umm, again looking at Entry 14, Slenderman is TALL. The guy has to bend down to get in a generic doorway. Why is it that Tim is taller than him in this video? It's very strange, as I do believe he's on a ground floor. Also, why does Tim keep looking at the camera so directly when he's talking to Alex? It's not fitting in my head.


Okay, well for your first point, I don't believe SM disappearing had anything to do with the light. If we follow the theories that have been presented to us (that SM is always visible on camera and can change the degree to which he is visible/detectable), Slender Man would have been on the film had Alex turned the camera to look in the direction of where SM had disappeared.

As for your second, I think that even if they were on the first floor, it's possible that they would still be higher off the ground than somebody would be who was looking in the window. Especially considering Slender Man seems to be as tall as the branches coming off of the tree, you know what I mean? Like if you look at where SM's head supposedly is, if you pushed him backwards so that he was right next to the tree, he'd probably at least come close to hitting his head on the branches.

Also, I don't think it was noticed or mentioned before, but Slender Man's body is kind of facing diagonally. This is especially noticeable in the second or so when the camera bumps up. You can clearly see more shoulder on the side closest to Tim than the other. Probably insignificant; just thought I'd point it out.

Also also, they seem to be on another floor or at least at a different window once it cuts to when Slender Man is there. At first I thought they had just lowered the blinds, but the foliage outside seems a bit different, and the brick wall to the left of Tim (our right) seems to disappear. I suppose it's possible it's just BARELY out of the shot, but I kinda doubt it. Again, possibly irrelevant and just thought I'd mention it.

EDIT: Also also also, the video seems to be brighter after the footage bumps up. Woo, random and probably irrelevant facts!

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msheadwound wrote:
Not seeing much here, but I thought I'd post the overlays, just for posterity. There are three notably different frames visible in the last sequence when the audio distorts and just before the video cuts out. One is just Tim frozen, one is distorted, and one is further distorted, separating out reds and blues.

1. The first and second of those frames overlaid (With difference effect on)
2. The first and third frames overlaid with difference effect on.
3. Second and third frames
4. All three

fourth one, kinda looks like he's holding a dog Razz

anyways, about him being headless...

isn't he just behind the tree/leaves?

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Re: hmm
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K wrote:

2) Umm, again looking at Entry 14, Slenderman is TALL. The guy has to bend down to get in a generic doorway. Why is it that Tim is taller than him in this video? It's very strange, as I do believe he's on a ground floor.


SM is a shape shifter, so he can be a tall or as short as he wants to be.

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msheadwound
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I'm not a big fan of the totheark is SlenderMan theory, but the discovery of J's memory loss does make "remember me" in the info for Exit slightly more ominous.
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sorry if it was mentioned in one of the previous seven pages, but i got an exam soon and cant read 102 posts right now.
anyone else notice that at about 0:24-0:38, the shadow of his head seems to go really fuzzy?
might just be nothing, but would fit in with whole video sabotage means Slenderman is near

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