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kevrock
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Kilo wrote:
TTA wants to help J accomplish some goal, whatever it is. I don't believe it has anything to do with Alex's whereabouts, because that wasn't a real issue until Entry 14- Alex may play a part in what TTA is trying to guide J too, but that's not the last leg of all this.


I completely agree w/ this; its the same w/ people reading malice into SM even though we have no indication IN GAME of this. For all we know, this could be some elaborate initiation ritual or contact from the 17th dimension.

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Xenophobe
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TheAtroxious wrote:
Yeah, I can't help but think now that TTA may very well be intended as SM because of the audio. Not only is it distorted, but it's a call, a sort of beckoning.

I don't know, but I can't help feeling that he was intended to be. Else it's some sort of great coincidence how the stories line up.

Edit: Someone in the Addition thread mentioned that it might be significant that the "SEE YOU" was out-of-focus. Maybe it was. Now, not only are the letters blurry, but there are parts missing.

Analogy, anyone?


Well, the writing in Addition was blurry, and the writing in Signal is blurry/missing parts...perhaps TTA is fading, and this is symbolic of his/her fading?

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Xenophobe
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Oh wow. Sorry for the double post, but:

Has anyone made a connection between the music in Program, and the music in Signal, yet? They are eerily similar.

Also, TTA's age is gone from his youtube account. It used to be there, and used to say 79.

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Two2teps
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I'm on board with the idea that TTA wants to help J. The audio he found for this reply is just so perfect and then his sentiments of "come back" at the end really drive it home.

I'm beginning to think of TTA as kind of a skittish, child like character in mentality. In Addition he peeks around a corner and says "see you" and in this one he says "come back" as if he didn't mean to scare or freak out J but really wanted to tell him something.

Perhaps TTA learned "the truth" about SM and it drove him completely mad in the Lovecraftian sense, and now he's trying to get J to join him. J exited the situation and missed all of the goings on three years ago so now TTA is trying to reintroduce him to it.

Think about the titles of his replies;

Regards - Perhaps a greeting of some sort, a welcome back into the fold.
Operator - Indicating that TTA knows whats going on and can help connect and guide J to the truth.
Deluge - The initial flood of information from the last three years.
Impurity - TTA getting angry that J isn't catching on to his cryptic information, frustration at J's lack of focus, or that J' doesn't remember him because he's been tainted.
Exit - TTA trying to remind J who he is. Perhaps TTA and J knew each other however J no longer remembers in the same was he doesn't recall Entry 17.
Program / Advocate - TTA attempting to guide J to the goal, which leads to the next reply.
Addition - TTA welcoming J as another "Addition" to those who are involved with SM.
Signal - TTA sending a signal or message to J that they need to meet and that J needs to come back to the house to learn the secrets TTA knows.

Some of these are a bit of a stretch but I believe that TTA is trying to communicate with J in his own deranged way.

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Kilo
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Two2teps wrote:
I'm beginning to think of TTA as kind of a skittish, child like character in mentality. In Addition he peeks around a corner and says "see you" and in this one he says "come back" as if he didn't mean to scare or freak out J but really wanted to tell him something.

Perhaps TTA learned "the truth" about SM and it drove him completely mad in the Lovecraftian sense, and now he's trying to get J to join him. J exited the situation and missed all of the goings on three years ago so now TTA is trying to reintroduce him to it.


I really like that idea. The idea that he didn't mean to frighten J off, but just doesn't do well with people. The idea that TTA is somewhat crazy also weighs in with the whole "SM mindfucks people" thing.

Whatever it is, my F5 key is probably gonna be broken waiting for Entry 18.

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GrimBloodyFable
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I get a scary feeling that Entry 18 could be J's last... but let's not get pessimistic just yet, shall we? I've also started to believe that TTA's messages, albeit very creepy, are trying to be helpful to J and us. However, we can't rule out the possibility that he's trying to trick us.

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seems to me like TTA could be someone close to J[undertands how to "motivate" him], with his reaction to the addition video["MOCKING me"], i don't think there's any way he will back out of it now..

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Kilo wrote:

I also want to point out TTA's videos are for J, not for us. If TTA was trying to harm/threaten J, he wouldn't have started out with Regards. TTA is trying to communicate with J- albeit in codes. Why, I have no idea. TTA is a weird bird regardless, but he's been trying to maintain some level of encryption for whatever reason. Signal seems to be an indicator that TTA is either frustrated or desperate- he's dropped all the usual bullshit and stuck with something easily understandable. TTA wants J to go back to the house because he missed something.


What exactly is the reasoning for something like this? Sure TTA seems to be directly responding to J first and foremost, but also keep in mind that TTA has been in correspondance with players, told them that J can't be trusted, and stressed that all the videos must be listened to. If the videos were meant only for J, then why do these things and then cast a bad light on J? Furthermore, the PM's would have a better way of presenting secret information then public youtube videos (i,e. "Hey guys, I just got this mysterious tape in my e-mail and am gonna upload it because I can't understand it??")

Anyway, as for TTA is benevolent, it's possible, but so far the scale weighs further on the malevolent side because of his messages. Presenting cryptic, creepy static videos and secretly stalking J doesen't really neccesitate malevolence, but couple this was shit like "Lakes in stillness will take every night of the life" and "bleed more" and it seems a lot more dangerous

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Kilo
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what wrote:
Kilo wrote:

I also want to point out TTA's videos are for J, not for us. If TTA was trying to harm/threaten J, he wouldn't have started out with Regards. TTA is trying to communicate with J- albeit in codes. Why, I have no idea. TTA is a weird bird regardless, but he's been trying to maintain some level of encryption for whatever reason. Signal seems to be an indicator that TTA is either frustrated or desperate- he's dropped all the usual bullshit and stuck with something easily understandable. TTA wants J to go back to the house because he missed something.


What exactly is the reasoning for something like this? Sure TTA seems to be directly responding to J first and foremost, but also keep in mind that TTA has been in correspondance with players, told them that J can't be trusted, and stressed that all the videos must be listened to. If the videos were meant only for J, then why do these things and then cast a bad light on J? Furthermore, the PM's would have a better way of presenting secret information then public youtube videos (i,e. "Hey guys, I just got this mysterious tape in my e-mail and am gonna upload it because I can't understand it??")

Anyway, as for TTA is benevolent, it's possible, but so far the scale weighs further on the malevolent side because of his messages. Presenting cryptic, creepy static videos and secretly stalking J doesen't really neccesitate malevolence, but couple this was shit like "Lakes in stillness will take every night of the life" and "bleed more" and it seems a lot more dangerous


I'll give you that TTA has been in correspondence with players, but the videos and what TTA says in correspondence are not related. To my knowledge, the only things of interest TTA has said is that J can't be trusted because he's human and to listen to everything. The MH wiki also says that he's commented on the source of the videos. Not once has he ever helped in cracking a video's code- leading me to believe that the videos are for J, and that J is the one that needs to figure out the meaning. As for the uploading of public videos- probably to get his attention. I mean, TTA has videos he wants/needs J to see. Why bother risking sending it to an e-mail J may have not opened in years, when you just make it a video response and practically know that he'll see it?

And you got the line wrong: "Lakes In Stillnesss Take Every life of the Night". Which can drastically change the meaning- life of the night carries a connotation of something nocturnal, which are generally treated with disdain and suspicion by humans (I mean, just look at made up creatures- vampires, werewolves both spring to mind).

And the "BLEEDMORE" thing is still up in air. I'll admit it seems pretty malevolent, but no one ever figured out what the hell it meant. Maybe it's a means of deterring SM? Who the hell knows, right?

Like I've said before- TTA is a weird bird no matter how you cut it, and is doing his best to communicate with J in a cryptic manner- until Signal, where he just dropped the bullshit to say "Oi! 'tard! You missed the one important thing!"

EDIT: God dammit, I got the line wrong. "Lakes In Stillness will Take Every life of the Night"

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BaronVonCakeman
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Anyone else notice it cuts to the "Slender Man man" just as the audio says "I will be waiting for you."?

Also, the clip where the "Slender Man man" puts the cigarette into his mouth is doubled and reversed. He puts the cigarette in his mouth, and then the video of that is played again, but in reverse to show him removing it. Not sure if there's a name for it, but you see it commonly in animated gifs. IMO, that was done to keep him on screen for the entire length of the words "I will be waiting for you".

In other words, I believe totheark made a point to say that Slender Man (or whoever the man in the business suit with the blurred face is meant to represent) will be waiting for him at the house.

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Slender freak
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this might be the end game for J

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morscata12
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I watched the linked "Silent Snow, Secret Snow", and noticed a few things:
- The music, video, and speech comes from the episode. totheark has distorted them in the response.
- The footage of the chandelier was played backward and the speed was adjusted. It looks like a human form in the first few seconds, which was probably the intended result.
- In the film, the clip of the wavy-faced man comes with the words "hostile presences".
- Some lines are removed from the text (to make the message more relevant). Also, the word "cold" is changed to "old".

The short film was really interesting, and it seems to fit the theme of MH. Had some Lovecraftian themes - a perceived "truth" is discovered by an individual, and understanding/embracing that truth pushed him into madness.

Knowing that, I believe this response acts be a warning as well as an invitation. totheark used the voice of madness and isolation from "Secret Snow" to communicate with J. As in the film, the voice is begging J to go to the voice and open himself to the truth. However, drawing parallels to this movie, totheark seems to be indicating how dangerous that action would be. He's probably not planning on harming J, but the knowledge of the "truth" may drive J to the brink of insanity.

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Kilo
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Man, if 18 was the last entry because J got "claimed" by SM or whatever, I would be pissed. Talk about a cop-out.

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DavFlamerock
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Kilo wrote:
Man, if 18 was the last entry because J got "claimed" by SM or whatever, I would be pissed. Talk about a cop-out.

Why? What if it were a climactic ending? It's very possible (even likely) that we've reached the climax of the story.

Furthermore, people should remember that if J does get killed/kidnapped/swallowed by the Slender Man, the video needs to find an in-game means of going online, so methinks J will not be killed or otherwise removed from the story, but rather he will film the video, go nuts, and upload it as his final act.

I have a sneaking suspicion we have reached the climax of Marble Hornets--and to be honest, I kinda hope we have. I'd like at least a few answers.

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Kilo
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I probably should have clarified. I'm perfectly OK with 18 being last entry, but it never not be a cop out. "This is J's friend Brent on his Twitter. No one has seen him for 2 weeks..." etc. etc.

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