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b.sciens
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I just finished the video and mapping out the terrain inside the house, and I found something strange. J had to climb over a couch to get inside, you can see the cushions just before he climbs over it and focuses on the overturned coffee table. If you follow his movement, he ends up at the front door which is directly opposite from the back door with the vertical blinds. That means the masked person plopped his butt down on the couch that J climbed over while J was distracted with the plushie. That also means the masked person purposely placed themselves directly within J's line of sight. I'm thinking there would have been a forced confrontation with anyone that entered the house J or otherwise.

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iFaux
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I'd really hate to bring it up, buuuuuuut...

Didn't I say something in my -- idea -- that EFG placed himself their purposely? *cough*

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I'm of the belief that the Mask was not TTA but an interloper, after all these videos are public and anyone could see them or interfere. [In the IG universe anyway.] His next reply will either vindicate him or implicate him IMO.

It looks like Mask bated J with the stuffed doll so he could get a running start at him down the hall with no where for J to go. [Also I don't think he's running odd, I think the "all 4s" was just him getting out of the couch, like a runner off the blocks to steal an idea.]

Watching the video a few times it looks like someone grabs J and drags him down the hallway. Not necessarily a literal drag but someone grabbing him from behind and pulling causing him to stumble in the direction of the pull and then fall when he reaches the carpeted area.

Problem being he then jumps up and flees the building himself with no one in sight. Watching it again right as J goes to un-Mask him the guy lurches and J takes off a like a startled bunny.

Also while the theater mask gives the idea of femininity the grunts that are made do not sound lady like so my vote is on Mask = Male.

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Mauritius
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Why is everyone thinking that J was pulled away by another person? It seemed to me that J just stumbled over, fell and was sliding back as he was on the ground to make some distance from his attacker (remember that right when he gets up he makes a break for it). I would think that if a 3rd person was involved it would have been made more apparent in the entry.


The more I think about this, the more it makes sense.





Here is a screen shot right when J supposedly gets tackled, and I noticed that the Masked guy had his hand up above his face (as pictured), meaning that he was moving almost immediately after J moved.

This gives more evidence for the "Non Third party involvement" theory.
As he went down to take off the mask, you hear the masked guy grunt (same sort of grunt when he's convulsing) and J jumps back, and runs backwards down the corridor, and nearing the end, he trips.
After that he is struggling to get up, because remember, he's got a flashlight and a camera, no free hands.

It seems like he was just startled by the masked guy moving again when he thought he was unconscious or whatever.

Also, as mentioned before, the grunting is the masked guy, leading me to assume it is a dude, ruling out Sarah. I think Slendy has taken control of Alex or Brian, hence their disappearance.

Although if it was TTA, it would explain a lot. Razz

EDIT: Also, upon reviewing the entry, it would seem that the Masked guys "start" so to speak, isn't as freaky as it seems. It looks like he trips as he's getting up from the chair, like when you try to sprint, but your leg sort of gives way for a second.

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iFaux
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Maybe it wasn't TTA. But we know that TTA had something to do with it. "Come back" is sort of our lead there.

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Kilo
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Wanna comment that, yea, the way Mask moved was definitely odd at first, but that was in the first moment. The rest seemed like normal running. So he acted like a sprinter off the blocks, to quote a phrase.


Anyway, my take on all this and motivations.

I take back what I said earlier, about TTA being in a neutral position in all this. Here's what I think the current players stand at:

Camp 1: SM/Mask. We still have no idea what the hell SM's deal is. I've been convinced this whole time that SM was in cahoots with someone, whether it be equals, dom/sub, whatever. I also believe that this is the first time any malevolence has really been shown towards anybody in the series. Honestly, the mask gives me the impression of someone trying to mimic SM in the sense that he lacks a face. I want to believe that there's some cult involved here, but that seems a little too grand for the moment.

Camp 2: TTA. TTA knows something, and is actively engaged against SM in some way. However, he's a manipulative prick and either can't or won't move against SM directly, so he employs "players" to achieve his ends. He seems broken, but also knowledgeable. So, essentially, a hermit in the woods- albeit a hermit with some serious video editing skills and a YT account. If J weren't scared for his life, he should start looking into whether or not anybody on the cast ever got contacted by someone weird, but shot them down. Thinking about, even though we've seen SM, if I'm right, SM is also using "players" to work against TTA's "players". You dig?

Camp 3: The actors. This would be the neutral party in all this. I don't think all of this on such a grand scale that either TTA or SM would have an army at their disposal. I believe that both are working towards some end, and want to stop the other from doing so. So the get people to work for them. Perhaps Alex's crazy was a result from a struggle between TTA and SM to capture him? Maybe something inherent about Alex that made him desirable to both parties.

I don't believe that Mask was TTA. Simply because it doesn't make any sense that now he would attack J, after all these opportunities. It seemed like to me that Mask was there to run interception for SM, to try and keep J from discovering something. J was saved by something, it seems- or maybe he just managed to keep his wits about him.

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iFaux
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How do you know he was necessarily trying to attack him?

"SM was in cahoots with someone". This statement really turns me off of Marble Hornets in general :L

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Kilo
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Well, I mean, it seems pretty obvious that TTA is shy as hell, and SM likes to go "lol wutsup?" by being a god damn creeper, but all the social disorders in the world don't make you say "Hi" by getting a running tackle on someone.

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Mauritius
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Kilo wrote:
Well, I mean, it seems pretty obvious that TTA is shy as hell, and SM likes to go "lol wutsup?" by being a god damn creeper, but all the social disorders in the world don't make you say "Hi" by getting a running tackle on someone.


This is a long shot but ... what if he wasn't running at him to attack him, but warn him of something behind J ...

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b.sciens
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Listen to the audio there is no sound coming from the masked man. but at 2:33 you hear someone panting very close to the camera while J is coughing.

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Kilo
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It's possible. Obviously, even at this point, nothing can be ruled out. But I'm working off of my theory and going to stick to it, and until I see proof that it doesn't work, I'm going to try and use what I perceive to work into it.

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iFaux
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Poster below me is pretty much what I'm trying to say.

My "theory" was that whoever EFG was used J as bait. The positioning of the doll is perfect, SM would be focusing on J rather than anything around him. J would be focusing on the doll, the perfect victim for SM. EFG then goes in for his chance, but either something went wrong or touching SM makes you seize :L

Also, J's knife being gone - what relevance would that have, rather then EFG using it for something? J would have said something if he had cuts all over him. Plus the fact that it looks like EFG flees sort of..I dunno.

Rewatching the entry and I noticed something: EFG just sort of sits there, if his intent was to injure J wouldn't he attack when he first sees him?

The way EFG just sits there. It bothers me, almost as if he's trying to say "I'm not going to hurt you" "It's not you I'm gonna hurt, it's that faceless beast behind you", etc.

I'm pretty sure I hear something right before J says "Alex" for the second time, right before EFG runs.

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Mauritius
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Wonder if there is any correlation between the "Why are you wearing a jacket" comment in the previous entry, and the fact that Masked guy is wearing one?

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b.sciens
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I still want to know what is behind that locked door from Entry#16. Could that be why J was attacked, so he would not find out another piece of the puzzle?

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zygotesix
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iFaux wrote:
I'd really hate to bring it up, buuuuuuut...

Didn't I say something in my -- idea -- that EFG placed himself their purposely? *cough*


Sorry to everyone else for going off topic, but are you really that desperate for someone to say "good job!" and pat you on the back?

Because if it will end the consistent one-line posts referring to your "theory", I'll do it. Good job! *patpat*

For someone who hasn't even watched the video, you've sure pushed hard to support a theory that... well, that you shouldn't even have formed, since you haven't seen the video. *sigh*

I'll get off my goddamned soapbox now
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