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DasHangman
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This may be old, as I admittedly gave the other pages a cursory glance at best, but has anyone noticed that when J goes to the back door, the sliding glass door is completely off the track? Like, it's just open. Just blinds.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:48 pm
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Kilo
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It looks to me that it's the screen is off the track.

Actually getting a door of the tracks is one hell of a feat.

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Upon second viewing I have to concur that someone/something else was there. The second time J falls (or at least drops the camera), Masky is clearly still lying at the end of the hall.

Whatever "got" J, it was not Masky.

Also worth noting that Alex's videos suggest he suffered from memory loss, which was why he was videoing himself all the time. If encounters with Slenderman engender blackouts, it would explain a lot.

While I'm hesitant to say it with conviction, I think what we have here is J's first confirmed, recorded close encounter with The Slender Man. (His twittered illness and memory loss suggest that he's been being stalked for some time already.)

As for the mind control theory, I don't buy it. Whatever Slenderman is, I believe it somehow feeds off of fear or psychic energy somehow (or something like that). I won't build my own mythology here, but I think his victims don't suffer from mind control, so much as mind rot. Slender Man isn't possessing them or puppeteering them, simply his stalking them induces obsessive madness.

Not entirely unlike what is often seen in the works of HP Lovecraft.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:04 pm
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El_Smacko wrote:
Upon second viewing I have to concur that someone/something else was there. The second time J falls (or at least drops the camera), Masky is clearly still lying at the end of the hall.

Whatever "got" J, it was not Masky.

Also worth noting that Alex's videos suggest he suffered from memory loss, which was why he was videoing himself all the time. If encounters with Slenderman engender blackouts, it would explain a lot.

While I'm hesitant to say it with conviction, I think what we have here is J's first confirmed, recorded close encounter with The Slender Man. (His twittered illness and memory loss suggest that he's been being stalked for some time already.)

As for the mind control theory, I don't buy it. Whatever Slenderman is, I believe it somehow feeds off of fear or psychic energy somehow (or something like that). I won't build my own mythology here, but I think his victims don't suffer from mind control, so much as mind rot. Slender Man isn't possessing them or puppeteering them, simply his stalking them induces obsessive madness.

Not entirely unlike what is often seen in the works of HP Lovecraft.



I agree it would be too complicated for the ARG to allow slenderman to control his victims. also the attacker can clearly be seen walking away when the camera falls and J has his coughing fit.

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chaos
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hmm

looking at this a second time..

i guess it could be a third person getting the jump on J, but although the distance rolled the second time he gets sent flying is a bit odd for it just being EFG pusshing him, i think he has enough time to get up/charge for the last hit before the camera outs
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Long time lurker...

Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but it seems curious that J's first reaction to mask-dude is to call out "Alex". Why would he think it was Alex? IIRC he's barely spoken to Alex in the past three years. Although it's understandable that he'd have him on his mind what with it being his tapes which started the whole ordeal, it still seems odd that Alex would be the first person he thought of when he saw the masked figure. He would barely be able to see the figure what with it being dark, mask-dude wearing a mask, and being far away, so it seems unlikely that he would have mistaken the guy for Alex based on just appearances. Also, he calls the name twice - he seems unsure the first time but fairly confident the second (but I might just be reading too much into it), as though he had just recognised him. I doubt that mask-dude is Alex, especially since there'd be little point giving us a mysterious masked man and then revealing his identity a second later, but it is kind of odd that J would say his name like that.

On the Slenderman doll: it seemed so much like a childish joke. I really like the idea of ToTheArk being a shy, childish, but possibly malevolent and dangerous force so I'm reluctant to project my own bias onto it, but there seemed something very deliberately funny about J being summoned to a house in the middle of the night and coming across a crude mock-up doll of Slenderman, with cute little eyes and suitless. I like the idea that it's TTA's idea of a joke but I don't have much evidence to support that. Joke or no, I'd still say it was bait to lure J into position.

Random thought, perhaps TTA is stuck in that house and needs 'rescuing'? That's total conjecture but there seemed something kind of pleading about sticking "find me" at the very end of Signal and not making it more prominent (not that TTA is known for his clarity of communication). He doesn't seem the helpless type and obviously if J can get in and out then TTA can too, but there might be something keeping him there. That's just something that popped into my head and I don't think it's very likely, but it's possible that mask-dude was trying to prevent J from reaching TTA (assuming for a moment that mask-dude =! TTA).

To me it seems that J was grabbed and pulled backwards by a third party as it seems odd he would catapult himself across the rug like that. Of course he might have just tripped while stumbling backwards, but there's all that commotion just after he falls during which mask-dude should still be quite far away down the hall. So either J's responsible for the commotion, the mask-dude can move very fast, or there's a third party. For now, I'm going with there being a Third Man (here's hoping it's Orson Welles).

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kylok
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So I've lurked this ARG for quite some time now, and I got some things from the video I'm pretty sure hasn't been mentioned before.

Has anyone thought about the room layout of the building? It seems like J enters into the living room, continues on into a corridor, and when he turnes around (facing THE SAME living room), Maskyboy (because I'm pretty sure it's a guy, listen to the grunts when he's on the floor stabbed.) is sitting in a couch in the same room he came in from? So where the hell was the guy hiding?

Also. I think everybody is pretty much clear on the fact that there was a third party involved. I'm pretty sure it was TTA. The "NO" before J is thrown, is definetly human, and in distress, more like "GET OFF HIM!" than "GET OFF ME!" Also, when J is hurdled onto the ground, he starts coughing again. Maybe it's just me, but it seems he gets his coughing fits around TTA. Which leads me to think TTA isn't human. Or, he just starts coughing because he hit the ground hard... Damn it, this post is getting longer than I wanted.

Something else that bugs me is that after Masky has been stabbed (which I'm pretty sure is the best explanation of what happened) he convulses for a bit and then stays completely still. What the hell is the deal with this? Either the guy was faking in order to get J to move closer, and Masky himself threw J off, or he died and ROSE AGAIN! T.T


EDIT: Okay so I just watched the entry again, and now I'm pretty sure I was wrong about everything in the last 2 paragraphs. This is what I believe happens:

1. J enters the living room. It's empty. He goes on into the corridor, straight ahead. Finds a slenderman doll on the ground. Notice the open hallway to the right, and the open door to the left.

2. J turns around, finds Masky in the same living room he entered through. Where did he come from? Did he follow J there?

3. Masky charges J. They struggle and J either stabs Masky or he knocks him down.

4. Masky starts convulsing, and stops dead cold. THIS IS FAKE. Nobody bleeds out that fast anyway. J is standing in the hallway which was to the right before. Masky is by the door which was to the left.

5. Masky is the one who shouts "NO!". (Well, life is about learning from mistakes.) Wink
Masky himself pushes J off him. He could have thrown a kick at J, or something along those cheesy lines. Watch the video a second later. Masky's hands are in the position which they would acquire if he was rolling backwards to kick J.

6. J loses his balance and tumbles BACK into the living room from which he entered. Coughing fit occurs (maybe from being kicked in the stomach) and Masky is free to get back up. J gets up and makes a run for it, Masky catches up to him. Possible slenderman encounter seconds later.

This doesn't really fit into the "paranormal" category (after all the "prank- gone wrong" theory could be right, and Masky could be Alex trying to scare J off one last time). It doesn't really shed any light onto what happened after this either Confused . Whatever, just my 3 cents.

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i don't think EFG was stabbed...

J didn't have the knife in his hand, he had just picked up the doll, and the camera was int he other hand
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kylok wrote:
So I've lurked this ARG for quite some time now, and I got some things from the video I'm pretty sure hasn't been mentioned before.

Has anyone thought about the room layout of the building? It seems like J enters into the living room, continues on into a corridor, and when he turnes around (facing THE SAME living room), Maskyboy (because I'm pretty sure it's a guy, listen to the grunts when he's on the floor stabbed.) is sitting in a couch in the same room he came in from? So where the hell was the guy hiding?

Also. I think everybody is pretty much clear on the fact that there was a third party involved. I'm pretty sure it was TTA. The "NO" before J is thrown, is definetly human, and in distress, more like "GET OFF HIM!" than "GET OFF ME!" Also, when J is hurdled onto the ground, he starts coughing again. Maybe it's just me, but it seems he gets his coughing fits around TTA. Which leads me to think TTA isn't human. Or, he just starts coughing because he hit the ground hard... Damn it, this post is getting longer than I wanted.

Something else that bugs me is that after Masky has been stabbed (which I'm pretty sure is the best explanation of what happened) he convulses for a bit and then stays completely still. What the hell is the deal with this? Either the guy was faking in order to get J to move closer, and Masky himself threw J off, or he died and ROSE AGAIN! T.T

I'm not so sure about that. I thought that it was Masky that shouted "NO!", because from my point of view, it looked like J was going to take of his mask to see who Masky actually was, which Masky didn't want.

I don't really see there being a third person in this video to be honest.

Also, about why Masky was lying on the ground. I dunno if someone said this already, but I think J stabbed him (he does mention having a knife).

Finally, does anyone recognize the wooded area where J ends up from a previous video?

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chaos wrote:
i don't think EFG was stabbed...

J didn't have the knife in his hand, he had just picked up the doll, and the camera was int he other hand

Naw. I think that J had ample time pull out the knife between seeing Masky and when Masky attacked. Also, he does drop the camera. Could it be to stab Masky?

He probably had the knife in his pocket. Somewhere where he could quickly and easily access it.

So yeah, I still think J stabbed Masky.

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i took it to mean he was knocked to the floor in the struggle >_>
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kylok
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Archanamiya wrote:
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Yeah you're right. I edited my post above with a more plausible theory.

Also about the knife - I no longer think Masky was stabbed. If he's human, he shouldn't have been able to fight that well after that. Hell, he should have had problems rising and he shouldn't have been able to chase J in the end either.

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Yeah, it would have been some stabwound to cause a convulsion like that. What did J put on the blade, snake venom?

I suspect there's more going on here than we can guess at with the limited information we have.

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chaos
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kylok wrote:
Archanamiya wrote:
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Yeah you're right. I edited my post above with a more plausible theory.

Also about the knife - I no longer think Masky was stabbed. If he's human, he shouldn't have been able to fight that well after that. Hell, he should have had problems rising and he shouldn't have been able to chase J in the end either.


lol
but yea..
IF he's human...

that's also assuming that it wasn't a third person[atm, i don't think there was, but just saying...]
EDIT: snake venom xD
i figure he coulda just been winded

but yea, chances are there's stuff behind the scenes
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I'm still not sure about a third person. I don't know if I heard someone else talks whilst J has a coughing fit.
Did someone also say that when J is coughing and the camera points down the hall, that someone else was there too? It's not, Masky puts his knee up to roll himself onto his front.......watch that part with your head 45 degrees to the right. At first I thought it was someone lifting themselves off Masky and looking at J or Masky sitting bolt upright.
As for the movement itself its one that a person usually makes when they're in pain and are willing themselves to get up.

As for Masky's run I'm not sure whether he's using the sofa as a starting block, whether he tripped or whether it's an animalistic movement. Whenever our dogs run they first crouch down, lower their heads then shoot off as quick as possible.

Also where was he hiding before he sits himself on the couch? Under the upturned sofa? Behind the sofa? Outside?

As for the mask it seems a bit.......Poughkeepsie (kepsie?) Tapes-ish.

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