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TheAtroxious
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Yes, but if J was thrown, wouldn't he have moved more smoothly. As a martial artist, I will say this: You don't thrash about when someone throws you.

Granted, the thrashing might have been J's actor trying to pretend that he ws thrown without actually having been, but also, if Maskface threw him, I think there would have been movement of Maskface's head and neck. If you're throwing someone while lying on the ground, you don't just do it stiffly with your arms. You arch your back, dig the back of your skull and bottoms of your feet into the floor, and then heave your torso upward. It's not a fairly passive thing, like the way Maskface just lay there.

Also, that was a hell of a throw. You can't just throw a dude all the way down a hall. That would be ridiculous. And look at Maskface when J winds up back in the living room. He's in the same position as he was when he collapsed, before he rolls over and starts to get up. He wouldn't have been lying there like that if he had actually thrown J.

Okay, but beyond the technical stuff, which may just be imparting real-world physics on an internet movie made by college kids, I think the most concrete evidence we have to suggest that it wasn't a throw was that J was moved back far. I just cannot imagine that this was supposed to be a human being throwing J that far, even if he was possessed.

The third party theory makes far more sense to me.

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BaronVonCakeman
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TheAtroxious wrote:
Yes, but if J was thrown, wouldn't he have moved more smoothly. As a martial artist, I will say this: You don't thrash about when someone throws you.

Granted, the thrashing might have been J's actor trying to pretend that he ws thrown without actually having been, but also, if Maskface threw him, I think there would have been movement of Maskface's head and neck. If you're throwing someone while lying on the ground, you don't just do it stiffly with your arms. You arch your back, dig the back of your skull and bottoms of your feet into the floor, and then heave your torso upward. It's not a fairly passive thing, like the way Maskface just lay there.

Also, that was a hell of a throw. You can't just throw a dude all the way down a hall. That would be ridiculous. And look at Maskface when J winds up back in the living room. He's in the same position as he was when he collapsed, before he rolls over and starts to get up. He wouldn't have been lying there like that if he had actually thrown J.

Okay, but beyond the technical stuff, which may just be imparting real-world physics on an internet movie made by college kids, I think the most concrete evidence we have to suggest that it wasn't a throw was that J was moved back far. I just cannot imagine that this was supposed to be a human being throwing J that far, even if he was possessed.

The third party theory makes far more sense to me.


Oh, I just assumed J ran away and tripped/collapsed after attempting to remove the mask. When I say that J was thrown, I'm talking about when Masky charges towards him. Also, even if Masky didn't, it's possible whatever was behind/beside J pushed him/threw him onto the stairs.

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i was thinking more like a rabbit kick[is that an actualy kick?]
kinda like a drop kick, without the drop...
i figured it could have enough force to put J in a bit of a spin...
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Sylvine
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Trailhead says Masked guy was not stabbed.

Supposedly from J himself:

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Some understandable confusion going on about #18, I'll try and set a few things straight if memory serves (which I can't help but think is a gamble at this point).

-Whoever was in the mask attacked me. He pushed me against the door that was locked behind me and pulled me down on the floor. I don't remember much of what he did after that, I was in a daze because I had hit my head on the floor.

-After he had what looked like some kind of seizure, I tried to take his mask off. He pushed me off surprisingly hard and I stumbled backwards and fell.

-The knife I had with me was still in my pocket when I headed for the back door. Then it wasn't when I woke up in my car.

I'm still feeling very sore from it all. My head is killing me.


Reposting it here as well for specialized discussion Smile

~Sylv

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Kilo
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So, like, is there an award I get for being right or what? Do I just get it mailed to me in 6-8 weeks?

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Kilo wrote:
So, like, is there an award I get for being right or what? Do I just get it mailed to me in 6-8 weeks?

Slendy will hand it to you personally.

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Kilo wrote:
So, like, is there an award I get for being right or what? Do I just get it mailed to me in 6-8 weeks?


Right about what? There third party theory suffered a blow, but Js statement does not absolutely refute it.

For all we know, there might have been someone whom J didn't notice.

Silly Idea, but... some kind of seizure -> reaction to a taser?

~Sylv

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Sylvine wrote:
Kilo wrote:
So, like, is there an award I get for being right or what? Do I just get it mailed to me in 6-8 weeks?


Right about what? There third party theory suffered a blow, but Js statement does not absolutely refute it.

For all we know, there might have been someone whom J didn't notice.

Silly Idea, but... some kind of seizure -> reaction to a taser?

~Sylv


Might be. But then one might ask himself why the taser-er fled after tasing, and how Masky managed to push him off "surprisingly hard"

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TheAtroxious
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Sylvine wrote:
Trailhead says Masked guy was not stabbed.

Supposedly from J himself:

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Some understandable confusion going on about #18, I'll try and set a few things straight if memory serves (which I can't help but think is a gamble at this point).

-Whoever was in the mask attacked me. He pushed me against the door that was locked behind me and pulled me down on the floor. I don't remember much of what he did after that, I was in a daze because I had hit my head on the floor.

-After he had what looked like some kind of seizure, I tried to take his mask off. He pushed me off surprisingly hard and I stumbled backwards and fell.

-The knife I had with me was still in my pocket when I headed for the back door. Then it wasn't when I woke up in my car.

I'm still feeling very sore from it all. My head is killing me.


Reposting it here as well for specialized discussion Smile

~Sylv


From what source did you get this information? I find it dubious if it "supposedly" came from J.

Edit: Never mind. Found the other thread. It's legitimate.

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Sylvine
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kylok wrote:

Might be. But then one might ask himself why the taser-er fled after tasing, and how Masky managed to push him off "surprisingly hard"


I'm not familiar with tasers, but I imagine a shock through the leg would not weaken the arms, but still cause spasms for a short while.

Fleeing after tasing would reinforce the benevolent-third-party theory, especially TTA watching J and helping him when EFG suddenly comes into the picture. Of course, this is the realm of pure speculation now, though.

Another totally random thought: Pills in the house, strange behaviour (masks?), "surprisingly hard" shoves... anyone else thinking PCP or something similar? x)

(I guess I'm influenced by the first Silent Hill here. They combined drugs with the occult, worked surprisingly well o.O )

~Sylv

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Kilo
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Atroxious: It came from Ce Gars on the SA forums, who is J. He's the one that posted the introduction. He's J.

As for the tasering... I really think people are trying too hard. This has never happened, where J comes out explicitly and goes "Wait a second, this how it all went down." Which seems to indicate that the people running MH can tell we're way off-base.

I think that everything we see in the videos is just that. There's no significance there, we see what we're meant to see, from a production standpoint. The MH videos are shallow, it's usually TTA videos that need to be interpreted.

God, I feel like a broken record here.

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I guess if Masky is determined to keep his mask on he'd be strong enough. If he had an adrenaline boost he'd be able to do it I reckon.

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Sylvine
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Oh, don't spoil the fun x) I'm aware that it's overinterpreting things, but, as You said, there's nothing else to do with this video. No clues, no hidden messenges, not even a sighting to look for. Speculation's just a way to pass the time.

The seizure is clearly a point of interest, though. People don't tend to have those in the middle of a fight just like that. While I'm aware we can't be ceratin about anything with the limited visual information we have, it's fun to speculate.

~Sylv

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Kilo
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But you guys are killing me, because while interpretation is intended, you're looking for it in the wrong places. We're supposed to be drawing conclusions about SM, TTA, and all this crazy shit that's going down, but people are trying to a frame by frame analysis of the video.

I understand that I sound like a dick and saying "NO! You have fun THIS way!", but really, it's killing me.

I interpret the seizure to be an indicator that Mask is a little nuts. Which fits into my whole theory about SM/TTA... which I'm waiting on TTA's response to flesh out.

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Could Masky be epileptic?

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