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TheAtroxious
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SweetHat wrote:
Sirdangolot5 wrote:
Anyways back on subject. I stole this from found this on another forum:

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Hey guys, look what I found.





Not the best picture of maskman but you can tell pretty well already.


I'd say it could be either of them - they've both got longish necks, they both have that pointy hair-thing going.


I was going to do that, eheh.

Yeah, I really, REALLY dislike the Alex=TTA theory, and UCD fits the look pretty well too, so my vote is still for UCD

There are many more things pointing to the possibility of UCD being TTA as well, so my theory really hasn't lost any ground.

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 		Alex=Mask=/=TTA is always possible though..
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 		Honestly, that would be awesome, considering that J calls out "Alex?", yet we have the fact that TTA hasn't responded after the events in the house. I can't help but take that as a direct clue that Maskface is/was TTA.

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morscata12
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SweetHat wrote:




I'd say it could be either of them - they've both got longish necks, they both have that pointy hair-thing going.


They look remarkably similar, other than the facial features (hidden by the mask). That makes identification a lot harder... Well, Cameraman's hair is a lot more red/brown than Alex's hair. Although it was dark, Masky seemed to have dark hair like Alex/Tim. Since J has contact with Tim, he should consider contacting him again to see if he's okay.

Oh, and the gang seems to be getting along great in the second picture! Happy times!

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Trifecta 13
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TheAtroxious wrote:
Honestly, that would be awesome, considering that J calls out "Alex?", yet we have the fact that TTA hasn't responded after the events in the house. I can't help but take that as a direct clue that Maskface is/was TTA.


I think that J must have noticed that Masky looked like Alex because he came to the house looking for Brian. He wouldnt have called out Alex if it didnt look like him. But who knows what the tip said? We still need to find out whose house it was. Maby it was just a random house that he had been given the address to. I think it was most likely Alex. I Like chaos's Masky=Alex=TTA theory.

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Chief Poirot
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chaos wrote:
Alex=Mask=/=TTA is always possible though..

That's more what I'm thinking. The only thing that's keeping me from saying that all three are the same is how Alex would get a hold of the videos and sound that TTA uses. It's doubtful that Alex kept anything when he gave them over to J.
Think I said something like it back a bit, too. God, I'm tired of speculating! I want some answers, or at least more to work with.

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Trifecta 13 wrote:
TheAtroxious wrote:
Honestly, that would be awesome, considering that J calls out "Alex?", yet we have the fact that TTA hasn't responded after the events in the house. I can't help but take that as a direct clue that Maskface is/was TTA.


I think that J must have noticed that Masky looked like Alex because he came to the house looking for Brian. He wouldnt have called out Alex if it didnt look like him. But who knows what the tip said? We still need to find out whose house it was. Maby it was just a random house that he had been given the address to. I think it was most likely Alex. I Like Dav's Masky=Alex=TTA theory.

Fixed--I've been saying this since the beginning. (by which I mean since totheark first appeared)

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It's doubtful that Alex kept anything when he gave them over to J.

I disagree quite strongly. First off, it's MUCH more likely that Alex had the excised footage than anyone else--how would a third party have gotten ahold of it? Second off, if Alex was going to give J the tapes, it's VERY likely that he would go through and take out all the stuff that would jeopardize his friend. The distorted audio? That implies Slender Man's presence, as we've seen (presumably). Take that out and you make the Slender Man's appearances less obvious. The incredibly sketchy footage of Alex filming J upon J's return to the car? Get that out or else J will think he's a creeper. Remember, Slender Man doesn't want to be known about. Therefore, by removing as much Slender Man as possible from the tapes (the deleted footage at the end of Entry 12?) Alex could have been trying to save J a grisly fate.

When the footage of Slender Man from the Entries that Alex missed (Entry 1 et all, I'm looking at you), Alex realized bad shit was about to happen so he's gonna try to do something about it--by becoming totheark.

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DavFlamerock wrote:
Alex realized bad shit was about to happen so he's gonna try to do something about it--by becoming totheark.

and jumping at J witha mask on in a darkened abandoned creepyhouse?
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chaos wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
Alex realized bad shit was about to happen so he's gonna try to do something about it--by becoming totheark.

and jumping at J witha mask on in a darkened abandoned creepyhouse?


Alex had "highly discouraged [J] from showing any of [the tapes] to anyone else," yet J started posting clips from the tapes when he heard about Slender Man on the SA forums. J's path (and probably Alex's) was as follows: reading something about Slender Man -> serious research -> obsession -> danger. Alex may have been okay giving the tapes to J because he was technically involved in the same ordeal, but was probably NOT okay with him publicly displaying the tapes on the Internet. Actually, anyone who was once influenced by SM would not be happy about someone spreading the word about Slender Man and allowing others to do some light research. Posting the tapes on YouTube is sending boatloads of people down the same horrifying path that Alex experienced - totheark is probably pretty angry about this.

TTA seems to be sending us down the "serious research" path, which if anything is moving us closer to Alex's insanity. However, I don't know if he can help it. J is posting incomplete snapshots of SM's relationship with Alex, and TTA knows the complete truth. TTA is compulsively fact-checking J's entries through his YouTube replies. His tone shifts wildly between anger and "you've got it all wrong". Maybe his hints aren't helpful suggestions, but the obsessive corrections of someone who knows too much. It probably bothers him that J is close to the truth but cannot see it.

totheark is someone filled with anger at J for endangering countless lives, yet he cannot help but correct J's mistaken assumptions. totheark's last entry promises that he will set J on the right path; when he sees him in person, totheark cannot help but compulsively attack him.

These two traits are independent of identity - these statements would be true for anyone who was under the influence of SM. It seems likely that totheark=Alex since we have not yet met any other characters who fit that description.

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 		Am I the only one who thinks that he yelled "Alex" in the house when he saw Masky because it was Alex's house, or because he knew Alex had been living there, so he assumed that mask or not it might be Alex?

I still don't take his calling out Alex's name to be an indicator that he knows its Alex. I think it was just his assumption it might Alex because of who was living there last.
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Kilo
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zygotesix wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that he yelled "Alex" in the house when he saw Masky because it was Alex's house, or because he knew Alex had been living there, so he assumed that mask or not it might be Alex?

I still don't take his calling out Alex's name to be an indicator that he knows its Alex. I think it was just his assumption it might Alex because of who was living there last.


I'm with you on this one. It's the same thing as him calling out Alex's name first. Let's not forget that that's who he's looking for.

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 		tip said brian lived there, unless he assumes it's alex from those drawings, there's no indication that is/was his belief
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chaos wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
Alex realized bad shit was about to happen so he's gonna try to do something about it--by becoming totheark.

and jumping at J witha mask on in a darkened abandoned creepyhouse?

Welcome to the wonderful world of insanity Smile
zygotesix wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that he yelled "Alex" in the house when he saw Masky because it was Alex's house, or because he knew Alex had been living there, so he assumed that mask or not it might be Alex?

I still don't take his calling out Alex's name to be an indicator that he knows its Alex. I think it was just his assumption it might Alex because of who was living there last.

I'm wondering when people decided to read so much into the order of the names. If I was looking for two people and I heard something in an abandoned house, I'd shout both names too--would I shout the name I expected more first? No, I think I'd just shout whichever one came to mind first. Which, given the fact that he's been looking at Alex's tapes for the previous several months, would put Alex on his mind.

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DavFlamerock wrote:
zygotesix wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that he yelled "Alex" in the house when he saw Masky because it was Alex's house, or because he knew Alex had been living there, so he assumed that mask or not it might be Alex?

I still don't take his calling out Alex's name to be an indicator that he knows its Alex. I think it was just his assumption it might Alex because of who was living there last.

I'm wondering when people decided to read so much into the order of the names. If I was looking for two people and I heard something in an abandoned house, I'd shout both names too--would I shout the name I expected more first? No, I think I'd just shout whichever one came to mind first. Which, given the fact that he's been looking at Alex's tapes for the previous several months, would put Alex on his mind.


Actually, I think zygote's referring to the scene in Entry 18, when Alex says "...Alex?" twice in a scared voice (right before Masky makes a mad dash toward J). You're thinking of the spot in Entry 16 when J enters the house for the first time.

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DavFlamerock wrote:
When the footage of Slender Man from the Entries that Alex missed (Entry 1 et all, I'm looking at you), Alex realized bad shit was about to happen so he's gonna try to do something about it--by becoming totheark.


Hmmm, I hadn't thought of the possibility that Alex kept anything. It makes sense though that he would remove evidence of Slenderman before giving J the tapes, but Alex did a very poor job of doing it. There's still multiple sightings and distortions involved with Slenderman left in the tapes that J had. I'd think, with that firsthand experience, that Alex would be able to remove much more of Slendy than he apparently did.

Edit: I'm going to go back and read how J got the tapes again. Like, his exact wording. This has gotten me thinking that my notion that J=EFG=TTA actually held water after all.

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