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[VIDEO] Entry #19
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Archanamiya wrote:
And finally, this from 18:

"At first I thought I had been hallucinating. But I looked on the camera to see that it recorded whoever had attacked me."

Masky has malicious intentions.


The fact that he attacks J is obvious. But you then have to consider what happens afterwards. J is knocked out and Masky is triumphant. ANd then he proceeds to not do anything. I guess he takes his knife?? But afterwards he carries him to his car and even lets him keep his camera.

So what exactly does he want from J? Whatever it is, it's not as cut and dry as trying to kill or silence him. He ma very well be trying to protect him..though I think that's a bit of a stretch, much like the whole "TTA is a shy man tyring to save J!!" shit that's been going around, there's a whole bunch of better ways to protect someone from afar without being completely terrifying.

So what does he need done, what has he been doing, that made him abduct J in the middle of the night? Searching for the ARK? Sucking J's soul out with a straw? His motives are far too confusing at the moment.

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Sylvine wrote:
Archanamiya wrote:
Another thing about 18. What made J turn around so quickly. He obviously knew someone was behind him. And yet, I can't hear or see anything which may have clued him into that fact.
Did anyone else?


He does, in fact, whisper "Boo" quite softly. Crank up the volume, You'll hear it.

..ehm, seriously.

Edit: I still don't think it's the mask in the window. In Arisons screenshots, You can see nothing in the 1st, a slight mask-like shape in the second, but half of that mask-like shape in the third. I think that's just the light and the blinds playing tricks on us (especially since we expect something to be there).

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Seriously? That is hell of creepy. I just figured j was jumpy, I know I'd be if I was in that house in the dark. For the record I think that IS masky in the window.
By the way do we know where J lives? I mean, an apartment or a house or what?

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I dunno. I don't think TTA was recording him the whole time. The "bang" in 16 seems to be an indication of TTA's entry. And TTA recorded him when J was at his most vulnerable, when he wouldn't have noticed someone behind him. So far, it seems like TTA is skittish at best- he doesn't have malicious intent, he's trying to observe and pass messages. Mask is pretty clearly malevolent. The two, based on what's been offered to us, seem to have pretty different M. O.'s


That's funny, can you actually clarify why you think TTA is benign and Masky is not? They both seem to have the exact same amount of "ooga booga booga I'M WATCHING YOU".

That's another thing, a lot of people seem to be getting hung up on some kind of duality idea, where one is always evil and one is always good. Just because we know SM is creepy as hell doesen't mean the creepy dude stalking him and making creepy videos is a misunderstood good guy to balance things out. THey could all be malevolent. They could all be good for all we know.

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J has been saying house, but the style of the room in 19 makes me think apartment. Unless he rents a room in a house.

I'm certain that there's a face in the window both times. When I bring up all three scaps in paint shop pro for comparison, there is a face in the two later shots that isn't there in the beginning. I'm 100% certain that the first time is Masky. The second one is a different position, as others have pointed out, which I'm sure could be them showing that Masky has moved and things have happened since the first time. The second face could be Slenderman, for all I know, but I'm positive that that it is a face there.

Edit: I just watched Entry 18 again and I do hear the cue at which J turns around, but it sounds more like a breath than someone saying "Boo.". Definitely something, though.

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I believe TTA is benign because he's never actually shown anything like hostility towards J. He's posted creepy videos, and the meaning behind most is pretty unclear. But his role has always been (As I interpreted it), a messenger/observer. Twice he's posted footage of him recording J, once he's put up stock footage from MH (I assume so, anyway), and twice he's put up a pretty direct message.

We've only seen two encounters with Mask, but the first was pretty direct. Got a charging tackle in on J. The second one... a little less hostile, it seems. Mostly observing J in his sleep. Oh, and J disappears for a couple of hours without remembering.

I don't know. I know as I type this out, it seems like its possible that Mask/TTA are one in the same, but I just feel like that Mask is just a little too direct to be TTA. The correlation between Mask/SM (Correlation does not equate causation, I know, I know) just seems too much for me to ignore, and seems to be against TTA's agenda (Whatever it may be).

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more likely they're both psychotic neutral
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why is masky whereing different masks from 18 and 19?????

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0totheark000 wrote:
why is masky whereing different masks from 18 and 19?????
because he isn't?
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yes the mask in 19 has eye brows 18 doesnt

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You are entirely incorrect. watch 18 again.

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why does jay live in a house that looks like a prison

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It looks more like a dorm room to me. Small room, very standard bed, cinder block walls, basic amenities.

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Yea, I noticed the walls too. OOG it could be a dorm room, or a room in a school dressed up to be a "bedroom".

I was reading this thread and the one about the meaning of to the ark and I think we're getting so close here.

Think about the progression (once laid out as linearly as possible) of Alex's videos. Curiosity > Nervousness > Paranoia > ? this matches the ark (no pun intended) of J's quest. J Starts off curious, starts to get nervous by what he sees then the paranoia sets in with the self tapping, and the last (chronologically speaking) video we see from Alex has someone someone (SM?) enters Alex's room just like this latest video of J.

What if TTA is a "Renfield" type character, a pawn of what we call Slender Man? The Slender Man mythos always seems to have at its core that if you know about Slender Man it's already too late. Perhaps SM can only survive if people know about him and he chooses his victims. The last victim always "infecting' the next and so on and so forth. Becoming the ark or vessel to keep the SM entity alive.

To me that explains the mixed bag actions of TTA, going from seemingly benign and childish to creepy and hostile. Also as pointed out in the other thread it makes TTA's name...ToTheArk translate to To J. ToTheArk stops being a user name and starts being a salutation to J the next victim.

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0totheark000 wrote:
why does jay live in a house that looks like a prison


It is a college dorm, An older one.
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what was the blood in the sink for in 16 and the bullet casing. i can see what you mwan by infecting ppl. but maybe alex was the first to try and put a stop to it. ok he see's entry 14, he does what J does, he locks all the doors and windows, he gets a gun keeps it on him through out the house he gets stressed cuts himself, then SM comes along and attempts to shoot him misses and SM starts mind controling him. turns him into masky and then entry 18 and 19 come into play.

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