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Entry #12: A closer look
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LG
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Man up and make an account. I love when trolls hide under guest status.



Oh boohoo. Go have a cry.
I've been waiting for the confirmation email, but got tired of waiting, so I posted as a guest.

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DavFlamerock
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 		Re: Entry #12: A closer look
Thenre wrote:
This debunks the theory that Slenderman can only be seen on camera, at least some of the time he presents himself in a manner that people can see with the naked eye.

This theory was debunked back on August 29, when Entry 12 came out. It hasn't come up since, so I'm not sure why you mentioned it again here. OLD

Thenre wrote:
It also shows that almost everyone involved in Marble Hornets has encountered SM, whether or not they remember the event.

Obviously this assumes that there were only a few characters in Marble Hornets, but given the Entries we have seen I wouldn't be surprised that it's the case. Fair enough. LEGIT

Thenre wrote:
So far I noticed Alex, Brian, Sarah, and whoever is operating the camera. This is either the camera man shown in Entry #9, Tim, or maybe even Jay. We don't know since nobody involved remembers the incident (as far as we know).

Correct, but a moot point if you're right that no one remembers. IRRELEVANT
Though, I believe it's agreed that Sarah was behind the camera because when she speaks, you can hear her pretty well and quite consistently (exhibit: "What is he doing?")

Thenre wrote:
Jay hasn't talked to Sarah yet and I think that since she clearly SAW Slenderman and acknowledged his presence she would be more useful than Tim,

Unless she forgot it, as you proposed above. Or he has no clue where she lives, which is more likely (exhibit: he needed a tip to look for Brian). USELESS

Thenre wrote:
and Jay could show her the video proving that she saw him there. Then at the very least he wouldn't be alone anymore and at the best would have another few leads.

J doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would want to spread this to people, if his interview with Tim is anything to go by. If he was going to do that, then he wouldn't have gone to such extremes as telling Tim he was going to finish Marble Hornets and then never follow up with him. USELESS

Thenre wrote:
What do you guys think?

While I like your logic and your prose, however you have chosen a bad place to apply yourself, as this has no new knowledge (except the proposition that everyone forgot the event, which is actually quite plausible). Everything except the aforementioned point is either long-dead speculation or proposes things that give us no new tools and do not make new connections between existing observations.

Therefore, while this post was a good one, it was primarily old information and therefore a Trout

May I suggest you participate in the wiki? You would make a good contributor.

As for the rest of the thread...

>Omega's crazy.
>LG needs to get his ass a profile stat or no one will pay him any attention because people too lazy to make profiles for themselves don't show an aptitude for patience or decorum and their posts are probably trouts or spam or trolling or something equally undesirable. Hence the reason I ignore and generally look down upon guests (unless they have a legit reason, such as a PM posting anonymously as the PM to break up a player fight, as I've seen before). This is especially true for guests who smash on existing community members. You don't have to like your fellow viewers, but you do have to respect them.
>Oh hey look more stuff to address.
Thenre wrote:
TTA's response states There was More (this has already been discussed). This relates most likely to the fact that Entry 12 was cut off abruptly.

Old.

Thenre wrote:
It also states Operator, one discussed theory was that he was talking about the operator of the camera. If you notice he looks over at Slenderman before anybody else notices him. This has already been discussed.

Yes it has. It should also be pointed out that the unnamed camera operator in Entry 9 probably wasn't in Entry 12.

Tenre wrote:
The girl is likely Sarah, who multiple people have told Jay he should contact since she would be easier to contact than Brian or Alex.

The girl is Sarah (what other girl could it be? If they mention a girl's name and there's only one girl in the show, you bet you know what that one girl's name is). Also you're wrong--J has no way of knowing how to get in touch with Sarah. Just because she's probably still around and sane doesn't mean that she's easy to contact.

Thenre wrote:
The other question is who is the camera man. Is it the same person as Entry 8 or is it maybe Jay himself with him not remembering the incident? All of this has already been discussed I would just like to see it discussed further in a dedicated Entry 12 thread, since there isn't one already.

That's a legitimate point, except that there's little left to discuss from Entry 12. I'm completely fine with making this the "official" Entry 12 thread, if you will, but I don't see much else left to discuss. We've seen most of the permutations (plus a few I'd rather not have seen) already.

Thenre wrote:
I think we need to have a thread for each Entry at the very least compiling what we know.

That's what the wiki is for.

>Moving along...
rushinge wrote:
I second this.

I third this. However, I don't think that the old Entries require new threads because they've been cut apart to death already, so there's little need to discuss them much any more, except as extensions of the newer Entries (for example, in the Entry 20 thread I could talk about how the new information from E20 interacts with the old information from E9, though since it came from E20 then it would stay in that Entry's thread)

Omega_Absolute wrote:
Prepare to be flamed.

False. I may not hold much power here except social status (you certainly seem to hold me in high regard) but there is never a good reason to flame and I will not tolerate it. I may not be able to delete or edit your posts or otherwise do anything you couldn't do, but I will be a hardass about that Razz

Omega_Absolute wrote:
Also Rushinge, a trailhead IS part of the forum guidelines. Your post is a paradox of itself.

Though he does have a point, that sometimes I wish this community were more like the Lost Ring community (actually I wish that a lost, tbh). One of the things we Agonothetai did was stop using the Trailhead and give each topic of discussion its own thread. There were never topicspammers in the Lost Ring though. Not like we have here.

morscata12 wrote:
Creating a thread for your idea does bring it to the forefront, but doing so is an implicit statement that your find is much more important than anyone else's.

I think this is the subconscious reason why everyone is getting all worked up. Unfortunately any discussion of Entry 12 at this point is likely going to be primarily trouts or pointless speculation, so your ideas were not bound to be received well from the onset.

morscata12 wrote:
I can't say I agree with this interpretation. Only Alex directly acknowledged SM in this entry - he speaks directly about SM's looming presence, and walks over to talk to him. No other cast member makes any movements indicating they notice SM, and there's only one suspicious line of dialog: "What's he doing?". I think the girl who said this was talking about Alex; she sounded confused/concerned for a friend, rather than terrified of some creepy dude. Her tone/volume of voice sounds like she is trying to hide her suspicions from Alex. The dialog at the beginning could indicate a pre-entry discussion of SM among the cast, but again is only from Alex.

This, naturally, would be the opposing theory. If anyone really wants to know my opinion, I'd rather believe that Slender Man doesn't have selective invisibility (especially since he showed up on camera), so I would agree with the general interpretation of Thenre.

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and i love it when lurker fags have to diss guest(s)

You... are going to make me swear. And I don't like to swear. So let's cut a deal and I'll say "Shut the FRACK up. You're not helping anything here. He's not a lurker and the guest had no need to insult Omega."

LG wrote:
Oh boohoo. Go have a cry.
I've been waiting for the confirmation email, but got tired of waiting, so I posted as a guest.

Fair enough. I'll back off.

(but I still look down upon guests Razz)

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That is all.

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 		Are you a mod or just very self important? Not trying to be condescending, but if you're a mod it would be good to know for the future.

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 		I requested to be a mod, since this forum doesn't have one, but I haven't heard back from anyone.

I know I'm coming off as way too self-important but it's because I've been around for 3+ years now, and most of the people here are newbs. Nothing against newbs, but it's important to have some balance of vets vs newbs. The self-importance is not intended, sorry bout that :/

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 		While I am vehemently against forum-flooding posts, I am very for seeing the trailhead die. I think it would be much easier to access information with a thread for all the separate things. Unfortunately, I don't think that'll happen any time soon.

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DavFlamerock wrote:
I requested to be a mod, since this forum doesn't have one, but I haven't heard back from anyone.

I know I'm coming off as way too self-important but it's because I've been around for 3+ years now, and most of the people here are newbs. Nothing against newbs, but it's important to have some balance of vets vs newbs. The self-importance is not intended, sorry bout that :/


No, I get you. Some people have a right to be self important. I've been on another forum for 7+ years, and it baffles me how people don't understand how I know how things should be run there a little better than the kids who kick around for a couple of months.

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 		You know what? I think im gonna make a topic about the audio in TTA's responce to entry 16. I dont do this because it has already been brought up discussed in multiple threads and topics. We shouldn't be expanding the forum on stuff that has been discussed especially OLDER stuff. Dav and Omega are right.
Lets not individually re-explain every last freaking detail Over and over because new people want to join in. If ya want in, do the same thing the rest of us did. READ THE TRAILHEAD AND SUBFORUMS!

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 		Re: Entry #12: A closer look
DavFlamerock wrote:
A bunch of text.


This. Last words on my part for the issue, if we had an "official" thread for each Entry at the very least information disclosed in the trailhead could be posted there. Half the time I'm trying to see if something was already in the trailhead I have to go back and re read 50+ pages just to find relevant information. Just have one person make a post and then edit it as new information comes up for each entry so that you don't have to read through all of the troll/flame/forum bs comments. That's that.

Yes, a lot of the things that I said were old news, such as the debunking but I keep hearing people toss the theory around. You can say "READ THE TRAILHEAD" all you want, but it's nearing 200+ pages now and newcomers are not going to want to even touch that. I merely restated that since this was the entry that debunked that for certain.

That is all. It was delicious trout, but I will admit that by your definition of trout it is still trout.

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Predator45 wrote:
You know what? I think im gonna make a topic about the audio in TTA's responce to entry 16. I dont do this because it has already been brought up discussed in multiple threads and topics. We shouldn't be expanding the forum on stuff that has been discussed especially OLDER stuff. Dav and Omega are right.
Lets not individually re-explain every last freaking detail Over and over because new people want to join in. If ya want in, do the same thing the rest of us did. READ THE WIKI!

Fixed. (because no one wants to read the Trailhead)

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DavFlamerock wrote:
Predator45 wrote:
You know what? I think im gonna make a topic about the audio in TTA's responce to entry 16. I dont do this because it has already been brought up discussed in multiple threads and topics. We shouldn't be expanding the forum on stuff that has been discussed especially OLDER stuff. Dav and Omega are right.
Lets not individually re-explain every last freaking detail Over and over because new people want to join in. If ya want in, do the same thing the rest of us did. READ THE WIKI!

Fixed. (because no one wants to read the Trailhead)


i wont lie, i read the first 80 some pages and that in itself took me Hours and hours and hours. So i gave up. Good point Dav.

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Omega_Absolute wrote:
LG wrote:
Yeah, don't listen to Omega_Absolute.
He's a dbag.


Man up and make an account. I love when trolls hide under guest status.



Wow.. this is, what, the third time somebody's tried trolling under my name? Huh, I must be popular on the chans.

EDIT: saw another at top of page, that makes five.
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lifegospel wrote:
Omega_Absolute wrote:
LG wrote:
Yeah, don't listen to Omega_Absolute.
He's a dbag.


Man up and make an account. I love when trolls hide under guest status.



Wow.. this is, what, the third time somebody's tried trolling under my name? Huh, I must be popular on the chans.

EDIT: saw another at top of page, that makes five.


Those two posts were me, actually. My confirmation email wasn't going through for some reason, so I posted as a guest.

I think I posted in another thread too, with the same screenname.
Can't speak for the other too though.

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Lupus_Guerrero wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
Omega_Absolute wrote:
LG wrote:
Yeah, don't listen to Omega_Absolute.
He's a dbag.


Man up and make an account. I love when trolls hide under guest status.



Wow.. this is, what, the third time somebody's tried trolling under my name? Huh, I must be popular on the chans.

EDIT: saw another at top of page, that makes five.


Those two posts were me, actually. My confirmation email wasn't going through for some reason, so I posted as a guest.

I think I posted in another thread too, with the same screenname.
Can't speak for the other too though.


lol, sorry then, same initials and an earlier attempt made me think you were from before. Nevermind then, have fun (although I WILL find out who made those other posts)
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