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incedio
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LordWinter wrote:
wow, that means J probably gonna get the entry #20 tonight... probably posting it tomorrow?


Unless something bad happens to him before then, or he goes insane and starts posting videos in code or none at all Very Happy this is gonna be fun

@LordWinter
He said it happend during Entry #19, and it's been proved that it was indeed in Alex's house. Not his own, assuming that is what you meant. It is the same house from 16 and 18.

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I think this should pretty definitively seal where TTA's alliegances lay. If you watch this and still think he's a slenderman hunter giving out helpful hints wel.. I don't know what to say to you.

Another thing to consider is this. TTA's last message before meeting J for the first time was "find me" on the last frame of Signal. I mentioned in the Messages thread that for some reason, he'd switched from the singular pronoun to the multiple "Us" in Messages when he says "Tell us You have been keeping secrets." Well, we now know why he refers to us. TTA is working on behalf of SM. And this isn't just a one time, ritual cultist summoning him or whatever. He can actually communicate and convey messages for him. Which is why I think the found you at the end is Slenderman saying he's found J. And presumably, will find the ark soon too, if he hasn't already.

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Ah yes, and of course the content of Messages too. SM and TTA want someone to spill the beans. Whether that's J or Tim, who knows?

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Badgerconda
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One thing I noticed that may be a continuity error, or the lighting in the video, but...

In entry 19, J is wearing a grey t-shirt when he gets home, but he changes into a white t-shirt before going to bed. in 'Return', J is wearing a grey t-shirt again...

Did J get changed before sleepwalking or whatever out of the house? or were these actually two totally seperate incidents....?

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LordWinter
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incedio wrote:

He said it happend during Entry #19, and it's been proved that it was indeed in Alex's house. Not his own, assuming that is what you meant. It is the same house from 16 and 18.


it's been proved? how?
i think it's J's house, the doors just could be pretty similar on diferent houses...

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Reginald
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Is it possible that either TTA has a split personality, or is in fact multiple individuals?

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Two2teps
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Badgerconda wrote:
One thing I noticed that may be a continuity error, or the lighting in the video, but...

In entry 19, J is wearing a grey t-shirt when he gets home, but he changes into a white t-shirt before going to bed. in 'Return', J is wearing a grey t-shirt again...

Did J get changed before sleepwalking or whatever out of the house? or were these actually two totally seperate incidents....?


It's the sheet from his bed. When masky is on the dresser in Entry 19 you can see J is in the grey shirt.

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Two2teps
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One last thing before bed, Return has video distortion beyond just flickering lights and a few cuts.
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BaronVonCakeman
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Um, J's Twitter posts were saying that Return took place during the 3 hours of lost time from Entry #19.

The only thing he was confused about was his linking of Addition. He was trying to say that Return didn't take place during Entry #18 because he wasn't wearing the grey shirt; he had the dark hoodie and baseball cap on. But then he looked back and noticed that Addition was filmed during Entry #16, not #18. That's all. I'm still 90% certain Return took place in the house from #16 and #18.

EDITING: Just some punctuation errors I corrected.

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Badgerconda
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Carrying back over from the trailhead (we really should centralize these discussions...) I know there's a white sheet, but if you look closely at his sleeve, it also seems to be more white than grey.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Also, I remember this being addressed before, but I don't remember the general conclusion.

I believe totheark is still holding the camera during the long shot, because the camera is moving slightly.

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blue5213
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what wrote:
I think this should pretty definitively seal where TTA's alliegances lay. If you watch this and still think he's a slenderman hunter giving out helpful hints wel.. I don't know what to say to you.

Another thing to consider is this. TTA's last message before meeting J for the first time was "find me" on the last frame of Signal. I mentioned in the Messages thread that for some reason, he'd switched from the singular pronoun to the multiple "Us" in Messages when he says "Tell us You have been keeping secrets." Well, we now know why he refers to us. TTA is working on behalf of SM. And this isn't just a one time, ritual cultist summoning him or whatever. He can actually communicate and convey messages for him. Which is why I think the found you at the end is Slenderman saying he's found J. And presumably, will find the ark soon too, if he hasn't already.


This proves nothing. If TTA wanted to hurt J, he'd have done it by now. Him hanging around J's room just makes it even more likely that he isn't an ally of SM. If he was SM's ally, why was he just sitting in J's room like a creeper? He doesn't do anything that we see. He doesn't seem to have anything to do with SM in Return; he's just taping what happens. It's not even clear that SM knows TTA is there. Using the "us" means jack squat: Masky could just as easily be referring to us, the viewers, which is actually much more logical and likely than saying that he's talking about him and SM, which makes no sense whatsoever. There's zero proof that any of TTA's messages have been from SM.

Saying Masky and Slenderman are in league isn't a very strong argument, even at this point.

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TheAtroxious
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To repost what I said on YouTube, 'cause it's just so damn appropriate:

TheAtroxious wrote:
Slendy's back. Awesomeness. This made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I missed our tall friend for a while there.


Now I should go back and read what's already been discussed so that I can participate in speculation without sounding the fool.

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Curiously High
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For the sake of ease, I'm just going to say right now that I don't agree that SM and TTA are working together.

Now if Masky = TTA = Alex, then it all would make sense. Alex is trying to give J this disease to be rid of it, perhaps. Luring J by giving him the videos with the inkling and hope that J would watch them, and then SM would start appearing for J instead of Alex. When that wasn't enough, he created TTA, to start feeding J information in the form of 'help', which was a ruse. All Alex wanted was to lure J into the house (filming, of course), and SM would be attracted to that. From there, it was all a matter of getting SM to pay MORE attention to J than to himself.

Long story short, WTG J, you should have burned the tapes.

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Archanamiya
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In regards to this and J's Twitter, I have only one thing to say.
Something terrifying happened in those three hours.

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