Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:12 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
[VIDEO] Return
Moderators: Giskard, JKatkina, Zarggg
View previous topicView next topic
Page 14 of 20 [298 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  Next
Author Message
TheAtroxious
Unfettered


Joined: 14 Oct 2009
Posts: 428
Location: Chicago, Illinois

 		Hm, I always thought "found you" was in reference to J simply because of the video that ended "find me" in much the same style, that is, hidden in the final frame.

See? Signal was a response to Entry 17. It said "come back; find me". In Entry 18, complying with Arky's suggestion, J goes back to the house and something happens. Later, we find out that TTA encountered Slendy during the missing time, and J was curled up in a corner, looking completely stoned in a bad way. So you see, Messages was an indirect response to Entry 18. Sort of like an "oh, by the way, J, I've been surrounding your bed". Return was the direct response to 18, which was acting on the request of Signal.

So, TTA says "come back; find me". When J does this, TTA records a video of the missing time saying "found you; forever".

That makes a lot more sense to me than the idea of TTA suddenly switching things up and making a video referring to Slendy instead of J. For all we know, Slendy's always been around, but there's been nothing to pique his interest in the past three years.

...Hey, do you guys think he was in the closet all this time?
SlendyInCloset.png
 Description   
 Filesize   61.19KB
 Viewed   91 Time(s)

SlendyInCloset.png

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:37 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Moon
Unfettered


Joined: 29 Nov 2009
Posts: 354

 		It's late so forgive me if I'm a bit slow

So...we're all mostly in agreement then that Masky = TTA?

Arky..hah...I like that.
_________________
"I don't see it, ya'll are dumb!"
*************
Played: Vanishing Point, Five Flowers, Marble Hornets: Season I
Playing: Marble Hornets: Season II?
Lurking: --

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:41 am
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
gordon_ramsay
Unfettered


Joined: 27 Sep 2009
Posts: 521
TheAtroxious wrote:
For all we know, Slendy's always been around, but there's been nothing to pique his interest in the past three years.



Either that, or the fact that he had no reason to even think about Alex's tapes until Jay came along and brought them to light. Actually, to me, that makes perfect sense. Slendy had no reason to show himself to anyone or anything until the MH tapes came back into the picture. He then has to take initiative and either one, scare Jay off of the subject or destroy the tapes.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:44 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Censhin
Boot

Joined: 17 Jun 2007
Posts: 14
TheAtroxious wrote:
Hm, I always thought "found you" was in reference to J simply because of the video that ended "find me" in much the same style, that is, hidden in the final frame.

See? Signal was a response to Entry 17. It said "come back; find me". In Entry 18, complying with Arky's suggestion, J goes back to the house and something happens. Later, we find out that TTA encountered Slendy during the missing time, and J was curled up in a corner, looking completely stoned in a bad way. So you see, Messages was an indirect response to Entry 18. Sort of like an "oh, by the way, J, I've been surrounding your bed". Return was the direct response to 18, which was acting on the request of Signal.

So, TTA says "come back; find me". When J does this, TTA records a video of the missing time saying "found you; forever".

That makes a lot more sense to me than the idea of TTA suddenly switching things up and making a video referring to Slendy instead of J. For all we know, Slendy's always been around, but there's been nothing to pique his interest in the past three years.

...Hey, do you guys think he was in the closet all this time?


That all makes sense except for two things: Slenderman's appearance, and the word "forever." TTA has made a tape with J in it, and was lurking in J's place in Entry #19. He already had found him, and it wouldn't make sense that the word "forever" would apply to J. Slenderman also hasn't appeared until now. Maybe TTA was looking for him, and knew that J might lead him to SM?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:56 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
BaronVonCakeman
Unfettered


Joined: 13 Oct 2009
Posts: 313
Location: Canada
TheAtroxious wrote:
Hm, I always thought "found you" was in reference to J simply because of the video that ended "find me" in much the same style, that is, hidden in the final frame.

See? Signal was a response to Entry 17. It said "come back; find me". In Entry 18, complying with Arky's suggestion, J goes back to the house and something happens. Later, we find out that TTA encountered Slendy during the missing time, and J was curled up in a corner, looking completely stoned in a bad way. So you see, Messages was an indirect response to Entry 18. Sort of like an "oh, by the way, J, I've been surrounding your bed". Return was the direct response to 18, which was acting on the request of Signal.

So, TTA says "come back; find me". When J does this, TTA records a video of the missing time saying "found you; forever".

That makes a lot more sense to me than the idea of TTA suddenly switching things up and making a video referring to Slendy instead of J. For all we know, Slendy's always been around, but there's been nothing to pique his interest in the past three years.

...Hey, do you guys think he was in the closet all this time?


... Are you playing with us, or is that an actual screenshot? I thought that would have been noticed before.

Yeah, that makes more sense I guess. I suppose I just didn't like the way it was done, because he's asking J to find him at first, and then he's saying "I found you instead", and it makes him seem more malicious than I hoped. Because that means that he probably made Signal as an attempt to lure J out into the open so that he could *find* him. The "forever" part implies that he'll never lose J now that he's located him.

What I don't like is why couldn't totheark have followed J home at the end of Entry #16? Why wait until #17 was released to lure him back? I guess maybe he couldn't until *something* happened that would allow him to do so, and I'm thinking that whatever that was occurred during J's blackout during Entry #18.

Also, I was thinking that if totheark did summon Slender Man, it would be either to A) Capture/kill him, or B) Worship/unleash him.

EDIT: I'm also willing to bet that totheark was either in the backseat or trunk of J's car at the end of Entry #18.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:58 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Moon
Unfettered


Joined: 29 Nov 2009
Posts: 354
BaronVonCakeman wrote:




What I don't like is why couldn't totheark have followed J home at the end of Entry #16? Why wait until #17 was released to lure him back? I guess maybe he couldn't until *something* happened that would allow him to do so, and I'm thinking that whatever that was occurred during J's blackout during Entry #18.


Masky installed a GPS tracking chip. Cool
_________________
"I don't see it, ya'll are dumb!"
*************
Played: Vanishing Point, Five Flowers, Marble Hornets: Season I
Playing: Marble Hornets: Season II?
Lurking: --

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:02 am
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
TheMorrigan
Guest
TheAtroxious wrote:
Hm, I always thought "found you" was in reference to J simply because of the video that ended "find me" in much the same style, that is, hidden in the final frame.

See? Signal was a response to Entry 17. It said "come back; find me". In Entry 18, complying with Arky's suggestion, J goes back to the house and something happens. Later, we find out that TTA encountered Slendy during the missing time, and J was curled up in a corner, looking completely stoned in a bad way. So you see, Messages was an indirect response to Entry 18. Sort of like an "oh, by the way, J, I've been surrounding your bed". Return was the direct response to 18, which was acting on the request of Signal.

So, TTA says "come back; find me". When J does this, TTA records a video of the missing time saying "found you; forever".

That makes a lot more sense to me than the idea of TTA suddenly switching things up and making a video referring to Slendy instead of J. For all we know, Slendy's always been around, but there's been nothing to pique his interest in the past three years.

...Hey, do you guys think he was in the closet all this time?

Wasn't there a bottle of water in the closet? Could it have been tossed into there to lure SM? Then when J takes it out, it unleashed Slendy?
Water means something we just don't know exactly what yet.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:07 am
 Back to top 
TheAtroxious
Unfettered


Joined: 14 Oct 2009
Posts: 428
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Censhin wrote:
That all makes sense except for two things: Slenderman's appearance, and the word "forever." TTA has made a tape with J in it, and was lurking in J's place in Entry #19. He already had found him, and it wouldn't make sense that the word "forever" would apply to J. Slenderman also hasn't appeared until now. Maybe TTA was looking for him, and knew that J might lead him to SM?


Ah, but if TTA had already found J, then why would he say "find me" in the first place? Or was that in reference to Slender Man, too?

Personally, I attribute Slender Man's appearance as an indication that he's still involved, and that digging through the old tapes and poking about more than was good for him got J into the same situation Alex was in.

I could flip your theory on its head and say that there is every likelihood that TTA has encountered found Slendy in the past, too. I think it was proven that they were in pretty close vicinity in Entry 13 and Exit respectively. Yet TTA did not spend his time trailing Alex who could have lead him to SM about as easily, if not more easily than J did later, as SM was already after Alex, while J had to actively call his attention. No, even at that time, TTA was trailing J, which suggests to me that TTA's interest and motivation lies first with J, and is tied up with SM in some way that we are not aware of yet.

TTA has previously shown absolutely no connection to SM besides the strangeness and video distortion in his wake. The theory that he is actively looking for the Slender Man and trying to communicate with him seems more like a mutated offshoot of the Slender Hunter idea. Alone, it doesn't hold its weight very well. It is held up mostly by old theories that may or may not be relevant in this case.

As for the word "forever," I can't say much on that issue other than that we haven't always understood exactly what TTA was trying to convey. It could be another one of those references that we need more information to understand, similar to "whereis theark". It doesn't make any more sense if you try to apply it to Slender Man.


Quote:
... Are you playing with us, or is that an actual screenshot? I thought that would have been noticed before.


I made that from Entry 16 and Return. It was meant to be a play on words with fake screenshot as backup.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:17 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Censhin
Boot

Joined: 17 Jun 2007
Posts: 14
TheAtroxious wrote:

Ah, but if TTA had already found J, then why would he say "find me" in the first place? Or was that in reference to Slender Man, too?

Personally, I attribute Slender Man's appearance as an indication that he's still involved, and that digging through the old tapes and poking about more than was good for him got J into the same situation Alex was in.

I could flip your theory on its head and say that there is every likelihood that TTA has encountered found Slendy in the past, too. I think it was proven that they were in pretty close vicinity in Entry 13 and Exit respectively. Yet TTA did not spend his time trailing Alex who could have lead him to SM about as easily, if not more easily than J did later, as SM was already after Alex, while J had to actively call his attention. No, even at that time, TTA was trailing J, which suggests to me that TTA's interest and motivation lies first with J, and is tied up with SM in some way that we are not aware of yet.

TTA has previously shown absolutely no connection to SM besides the strangeness and video distortion in his wake. The theory that he is actively looking for the Slender Man and trying to communicate with him seems more like a mutated offshoot of the Slender Hunter idea. Alone, it doesn't hold its weight very well. It is held up mostly by old theories that may or may not be relevant in this case.

As for the word "forever," I can't say much on that issue other than that we haven't always understood exactly what TTA was trying to convey. It could be another one of those references that we need more information to understand, similar to "whereis theark". It doesn't make any more sense if you try to apply it to Slender Man.


What I'm suggesting is Alex became TTA after being driven mad by Slenderman. He lost track of Slenderman, because he quit filming Marble Hornets. For some reason, he wants to find SM again, so he decides to use J for bait. He tells J to find him, because he wants to figure out if SM is following J by now. Then the found you would apply to SM.

Thinking about it now though, TTA = Alex doesn't make sense. Alex didn't want J to watch the tapes. Tim was the one acting weird, and he had the S on his shirt that appears near SM's sightings in one of the entries, though it escapes me which one. Hrm...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:33 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Kilo
Decorated

Joined: 09 Oct 2009
Posts: 278
TheAtroxious wrote:

I could flip your theory on its head and say that there is every likelihood that TTA has encountered found Slendy in the past, too. I think it was proven that they were in pretty close vicinity in Entry 13 and Exit respectively. Yet TTA did not spend his time trailing Alex who could have lead him to SM about as easily, if not more easily than J did later, as SM was already after Alex, while J had to actively call his attention. No, even at that time, TTA was trailing J, which suggests to me that TTA's interest and motivation lies first with J, and is tied up with SM in some way that we are not aware of yet.

TTA has previously shown absolutely no connection to SM besides the strangeness and video distortion in his wake. The theory that he is actively looking for the Slender Man and trying to communicate with him seems more like a mutated offshoot of the Slender Hunter idea. Alone, it doesn't hold its weight very well. It is held up mostly by old theories that may or may not be relevant in this case.

As for the word "forever," I can't say much on that issue other than that we haven't always understood exactly what TTA was trying to convey. It could be another one of those references that we need more information to understand, similar to "whereis theark". It doesn't make any more sense if you try to apply it to Slender Man.


I digress, on the point of TTA having no connection to SM. We have 4 clips that TTA has posted up, that are all scenes from where SM was around (13/Exit, 7/Advocate, 16/Addition, and now Return). SM was in close proximity with all of them (Well, 16 is up for date, but I'll take the visual tear as his presence). Earlier on in the series, I was convinced there was a connection, but then I dropped that, but I've picked up that train of thought again. But I'll agree with you that TTA isn't trying to communicate with SM. The "Found you forever" bit is basically saying that TTA/SM has a stake on J's soul, more or less- not that I think it's actually his soul, but he's fucked.

I'm still not ready to call Mask and TTA the same person, although I think they're working together, so it's pretty much a moot point.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:15 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
BaronVonCakeman
Unfettered


Joined: 13 Oct 2009
Posts: 313
Location: Canada
TheAtroxious wrote:
I made that from Entry 16 and Return. It was meant to be a play on words with fake screenshot as backup.


I should have known better. I was tired and therefore stupid. =P

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:16 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Moon
Unfettered


Joined: 29 Nov 2009
Posts: 354
TheAtroxious wrote:


Ah, but if TTA had already found J, then why would he say "find me" in the first place? Or was that in reference to Slender Man, too?



TTA might have found Jay already, but the "find me" could have meant for Jay to go back and find TTA. We know that TTA was there filming him the first time he went to the house, but maybe there was some reason that he couldn't have a physical confrontation/meeting with J at that point.

I'm still leaning towards Masky and TTA being one and the same. I know there's no proof of it one way or another, I just feel as though it goes together in my brain.
_________________
"I don't see it, ya'll are dumb!"
*************
Played: Vanishing Point, Five Flowers, Marble Hornets: Season I
Playing: Marble Hornets: Season II?
Lurking: --

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:22 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
Chief Poirot
Decorated

Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Posts: 191

 		I understand the whole "find me" "found you" thing, but I just can't get myself to believe that the "found you" is directed toward J. It just seems too awkwardly-put, since TTA "found" J so long ago. Call it hanging onto a thread, (punny too) but I still think it's directed toward Slender Man. I can't think of a reasonable reason why TTA couldn't have followed J home after Entry 16. TTA even said it himself in his response to that "See you". TTA obviously knew about and saw J prior to Return, and the only character which hasn't been around for a while (visibly) that was in Return would be Slendy.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:38 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Moon
Unfettered


Joined: 29 Nov 2009
Posts: 354

 		Which again brings us back to why TTA would WANT to find Slendy
_________________
"I don't see it, ya'll are dumb!"
*************
Played: Vanishing Point, Five Flowers, Marble Hornets: Season I
Playing: Marble Hornets: Season II?
Lurking: --

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:44 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
Chief Poirot
Decorated

Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Posts: 191

 		Not sure. Just like we don't know why TTA would want to "find J", when he's already found him. Or find him at all, for that matter.

Motives motives motives. We need motives.

EDIT: Being gone for a few days, I forgot: when did Return take place? Was it Entry 18, or Entry 19? I always thought 19, but I remember that there was banter from both sides.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:29 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 14 of 20 [298 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group