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[morscata12]

[Sylvine]

Not remembering what happened = Having had a blackout. I know it's not the same, precisely speaking, but this definition is strongly present in colloquial language.

~Sylv

[morscata12]

[gordon_ramsay]

[Moon]

[Sylvine]

It's possible. Personally, I always took J's blackouts in the context of "I totally had a blackout during that test - mind's gone blank and my memory's all fuzzy" - that's the kind of blackout I'm familiar with, both in language use and personall (not a nice feeling x) ).

Which can also be caused by stress and sleep deficits, of course. And since J's under a lot of stress, not sleeping very well, and now appears to be missing from his bed for hours at a time as well, it's plausible. However, it's surely not the only cause. I think we can all agree that his condition is at least partially caused by an outside force, most probably Slender Man. Especially since everyone reacts differently to stress, insomnia and strained nerves, and his symptoms are just too simliar to Alex's for it to be a mere coincidence.

Am I...making sense at all? I need sleep as well x_X. Good night, guys =)

~Sylv

[Moon]

The similarities in symptoms don't necessarily mean an outside force though. Lol

They both could have just reacted similarly.

Although, in the MH world, Slender is obviously paranormal in some form, so yes, I believe that it could be him affecting them as well.

Once again this is appearing like the Ring. Gah.

[incedio]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure SM has the power to somehow get his victims or just the people in his vicinity to forget what just happened. That combined with massive insomnia, anxiety and paranoia...yeah, J isn't going to be feeling to good.

[Mr.Beyond]

I thought I would revive this thread to bring up something I've been entertaining for a while. Everyone has, at this point, assumed that this footage of J blacked out/ina trance/whatever is from the 3 hours he went missing after Masky's visit, but HOW DO WE KNOW THIS FOOTAGE WAS CURRENT?

I've just been thinking about it, because earlier in the thread someone was debating as to whether this was the house where Masky had cmaped out, i.e. the house J explored 3 times, i.e. perhaps Brian's house. And it seemed to be a general consensus that if this was THAT house, then J was in the place where the Slendy doll was first sighted. The main argument against this was that the lights appeared to be on in the house, albeit flickering, which someone explained off as Slendy showing off his power or something of the sort. If it was 3 years ago, however, back when the house was still Brian's/Alex's/whatev, the lights could still be on.

TTA has already proven, via Exit, that he has access to footage from 3 years ago. Alex listed J in his list of the "gone" from 22, along with Tim. As we know, both of those two are currently alive and well right now- perhaps even leading to the idea that the others on the list are likewise alive and well. For all we know, this is footage of J being gone. That puts a new twist on the doll sitting there as well- rather than being foreshadowing, or some sort of ritual to summon Slendy, it could in fact be something like a taunt or a memory-stimuli for J. Something like calling J a "doll" or a "puppet". Just the way that the Slendy doll directing him into the door later was something of a taunt.
Indeed, Slenderman doesn't seem all that interested in J... he really just walks past him to check out the camera before it goes black. And this is the ONLY time we've seen J and Slenderman in the same area- until now, the only face we've seen in conjunction with J is Masky. It doesn't seem as though he's been stalking him the way he was stalking Alex.

And this means that, until 26, the end of Alex taping was the end of Slenderman appearing. Which makes more sense if you feel that Alex is his real target.

This is only speculation, and a theory, but the more I think on it the more attached to the theory I become. Sorry if anyone has mentioned this before!

[BranRainey]

It's possible. J is wearing the same clothes in Return as he is in Entry #19, and I'm pretty sure he tweeted to explicitly point that fact out, but it could be just a red herring.

[Mr.Beyond]

I hadn't read that tweet. The clothes are a good point, but for all we know TTA/masky chose to stalk and/or disappear him on that day, specifically, BECAUSE he was wearing the right clothes. (This may be stretching a little too much, so forgive me.) I should also rewatch the videos to see if it ever shows him wearing the same clothes... it can't be that uncommon for him to wear a plain grey t-shirt. Course, since he's off-camera most of the time, we really don't see what he wears often.

[Dray]

This was pretty well cleared up; it was supposed to be the same night.

Also, it could be that the house does have power, but that someone threw the breakers so that none of the light switches worked while Jay was around. Not as huge of a stretch to make!

[Salty]

If the house DOES have power, then someone would still be paying the monthly electric bill, and since college age guys don't usually own a house, the rent too. Could be irrelevant, I guess.

[Dray]

As far as we know, money is one of those inconsistencies in the series; Nobody explains how Alex could blow so much on tapes, or Jay could spend so much on hotel fees and gas while he's moving around. As much as I'm in agreement with you about there being bills to pay, I don't think that it's a solid reason to stand on for reasoning's sake. Not with this particular series. :\

It could also be that, while in real life they were flicking the lights on and off in Return, it was meant to seem as though the camera was futzing up and they were trying to add an extra layer to the post-filming editing.

Nitpickery, I know, but if we'd gotten a twit saying 'that was me from last night' or thereabouts I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a shut case.

[Mr.Beyond]

I think it's not so much the lights that bother me as much as it is the fact that Slenderman never seemed interested in J until Return. In fact, it doesn't even seem like he IS interested in him in Return... He simply walks past, doesn't even look at him (if you can call it "looking", with his lack of eyes and all.) Alex is very obviously his real target; unless Alex was in that house (and how could he be, if he's living his nice life with his hottie girlfriend in ... wherever he is now?) why was he there!? It easily explained his presence if it was the J of three years ago, when Slenderman appeared to have been on a rampage targeting everyone related to the Marble Hornets cast...
I'll accept that it was indeed supposed to be him from Entry 19... but it makes things make a hell of a lot less sense o.o