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[Deimos]

Personally I don't like time travel, bot sayin its wrong, but I dont like it.

[Mr.Beyond]

On the subject of Slendy not having that kind of power...
I don't know if it's Slendy (or whatever nickname I can come up with for Operator, since that seems to be his name) that's doing the time-warping. After all, Return is set after Jay disappears from his room when MASKY broke in- and from the video where he chases Masky around the house (Forgive me, I'm rusty on entry numbers since I haven't had the guts to watch them in a while) and ends up in the Slendybasement, it seems like Masky DOES have some ability, at least in conjunction with J.

I also tend to think MH's canon is set a little aside from the normal Slenderman canon, seeing as how they're referring to him as The operator and trying to establish a very unique set of rules for him in this canon.

But I agree that it seems that the more you investigate him, the more you're in danger of him. That's definitely the case with Alex. But in all the entries, it's started to be a point that Jay is only seen in conjunction with Masky and Alex is only seen in conjunction with Slendy.
Even in the Return video itself, it seems that Slendy isn't all that interested in Jay. He doesn't so much as turn his head and look at him- he walks right on by and to the REAL target of his attentions, that being the camera.
Time travel, or at least travel through space, seems to have a pretty big role in this series. They made it pretty obvious that J's starting at point A and ending up at point Z. I just wonder if he's going back in TIME as well as space.

I don't like Time Travel as the central THEME of MH, but I do think it fits as one of the general-weirdness symptoms.

[G.I.R]

Oh thats right. I forgot about that whole "doors lead elsewhere" entry. And when he's in the house again and he enters one part and its day and exits and its night.

I think your right in the aspect that Slendy can use time-warping to screw with his victims minds, making it easier to "take" them. With Masky, I want to say that he works with Slendy, but at the same time I think its more of a "you help me get this guy and I won't destroy your life" type of deal. But why would Slendy need someone else to help him? Something stops him. Maybe the camera?

[Trygon]

I don't think it is Slender Man time travelling personally. I think that Slender Man is not of this Universe. I think that Slender Man is of another dimension, and that he can manipulate our dimension by taking things in and out of his dimension. When a door is opened by Jay before a teleportation or disappearance, he is actually opening a door into the Slendy dimension and walking inside. And in the Slendy dimension, the time flows much, much slower then it does in our dimension. So in the Slendy dimension, a micro second is worth an hour in our dimension. So when Jay leaves the Slendy dimension it seems like the transition between doors when 'teleporting' is instant.

Watch this video. It describes the process of crossing dimensions quite well. It also does very well to explain why Slender Man has such an abstract form and why he is so elusive to us.

[threads]

I think you're all on to something with The Operator not being of this universe. As such, the normal laws of physics don't apply to him, so maybe he has trouble interacting physically with our universe and has to corrupt Tim in to being his more human counterpart. The thing is, I believe The Operator's corruption of Tim has made Tim a bit non-human, which is why sometimes Tim's appearances cause distortion in the video as well. It might not be The Operator at all in those instances. The only way we're one-hundred percent certain he can have an effect on humans is through energy (video/audio distortion) and mentally/health-wise. There's little evidence beyond the one instance of blood on Alex's face and his apparent opening of the the door to Alex's room that The Operator can physically interact with our world, and who's to say The Operator didn't make Alex hurt himself. Maybe that's the point of Tim. He's The Operators hands, mouth, and feet in our universe.

I also have a strong suspicion that Tim killed Brian (the bullet casing and blood found in Brian's house) and possibly used the time/space manipulation of the house to hide the body somewhere else (the basement in 22 for example). We already know it is possible to travel from Brian's house to the basement.

[Trygon]

I think that Slender Man can interact with things in our Universe just fine (abiet with perhaps the same difficulty as the apple). However, I think Tim is the square and Slender Man is the apple. Slender Man took Tim from our dimension for an extended period and allowed him to see how he sees from his dimension. Now I think that Alex was going through what Tim might have gone through a few weeks or months before he started filming Marble Hornets. Coughing might come as a side effect of any kind of Slendy dimension exposure, hence why Tim was coughing quite a lot. And shortly after the hiatus of Marble Hornets, Slender Man might have taken Tim into his dimension for an extended amount of time and when he came back, it was just before Jay was starting filming his own footage. This explains why Tim is still wearing the same clothes as he was in the Marble Hornets production footage and where he has been this entire time, because if he had been living in the house Jay found him, it would look a lot worse. And as a result of such a long exposure of the Slendy dimension, Jay's mind has been altered. He has seen things no human should normally see.

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[SticktheFigure]

If the MH guys would've wanted us to head towards time travel, they would have had Jay end up in the creepy old house back with Alex. Although, if he can bend space, there is a strong chance that time bends too. In fact, bending time allows you to bend space. (Or at least, to a degree.)

[Dray]

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[Deimos]

Tim is noticably aggressive and moody in all the scenes we've seen him in, and the masky persona is him finally snapping. So maybe Tim was the first and somehow shunted slendy onto Alex.

either that or slendy is a manifestation of the faceless government lol

[mattskies]

It is pretty apparent that Tim/Masky has some kind of power. We don't really know how he has it but its there. I have a feeling that Tim may have been one of Slendy's victims or found himself a way into Slendy's own little world if we are working under the theroy that Slendy is an inter-dimensional creature. I think maybe Slendy toyed with Tim and kept him for some amount of time. This was probably between 15 when he interviews Tim and 16 when he goes to the house (I'm not sure about the entry numbers). In 15 Tim seems fine but Slendy may have taken him afterwards and Tim escaped at some point. Slendy might have played with Tim a little and he was left bloody. He made his way to Brian's house after escaping and that could explain why there was the sink. Tim might of went crazy and killed Brian, I don't know

From this hes absorbed some of Slendy's power and it kind of works as static discharge (when you rub your feet on carpet and zap people). But it might be slow and progressive and effected the house, thats why the doors were teleporting them both in the 2nd visit. Because Jay has been around him he absorbed a little and thats why he could use the door in whatever entry it is where he sleep walks and teleports.

I'm probably just rambling though, I got into this and didn't stop

[Trygon]

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[Mattwan]

This thread's resurrection led me to finally register, so thanks for that!

Regarding the nature of Tim/Masky, I'm surprised nobody (that I've seen) has made an analogy that seems appropriate to me:

Tim/Masky:Slenderman/Operator :: Silver Surfer:Galactus

To my mind, at least, this helps explain Masky's gradual transition from seeming totally menacing to seeming helpful but constrained.

To those not in the know, Galactus is a planet-eating alien who recruited a human-sized guy to serve as his herald, the herald's duties being to seek out planets ripe for devouring and to make first contact with the inhabitants of Planet Lunch. To aid his herald, Galactus imbued the Surfer with a portion of his cosmic power. Over time, the Surfer began to rebel and use his borrowed powers to work against his master.

Am I totally off base (and geeky) to think that sounds familiar within the context of MH?