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Dagada
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You could well be right with the "two sides of the same coin" angle. Many pictures have been posted reversed, either in colour or mirrored. There are references to "split" colours - one image with two halves. And they both seem to want the same thing. Are they the same person in different temporal points?

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Dagada wrote:
You could well be right with the "two sides of the same coin" angle. Many pictures have been posted reversed, either in colour or mirrored. There are references to "split" colours - one image with two halves. And they both seem to want the same thing. Are they the same person in different temporal points?


Somehow, I doubt they're the same person, unless it's time for a nut-job theory!Which, because it's been brought up, maybe it is time for one!

Ok. Vlad has referred to JPW as his mentor, possibly on accident on the PM's part, but it was done. JPW has mentioned Vlad was his mentor. Is it possible that - going off the 'same person in different temporal points' idea - JPW may be sending messages to Vlad, through us?

Have we had any evidence of Vlad and JPW directly interacting, save for the thing used to put the game on hold - which was between Vlad and the Ministry, not directly JPW, from what I can gather. Is it possible that the machine has already been used, and JPW is attempting to stop that by using us to relay the messages to vlad - to stop him from making the mistake of using the machine to start with?

I know, it sounds like something out of a conspiracy nut's head, but, it might have some grounds.

Only problem I see with it is age. Vlad seems to be anywhere between his mid 50s to somewhere in his 70s. JPW seems to be in his 40s. If JPW was future Vlad, then he'd be older.

Iunno. Probably WAY off.
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Dangit, I can't find the message now...didn't Vlad recently say to someone that V can no longer tell what is real and what is sinople?

And with JPW mentioning the looking-glass, it made me think that what is "sinople" is what is through the looking-glass...i.e., not real.

Or...hmm...in optics, the image you see in a mirror is usually referred to as "virtual." (You can get a real image using a concave mirror, but our usual experience is with virtual images.)

But how does this connect to the Vlad/JPW connection, or am I making this all up?

As for the nutjob idea...heh, I was even considering a Jekyll-and-Hyde theory at one point, especially given the way JPW is only around to chat when Vlad is not (Polkaroo!), but I figure that's basically because one PM is running both characters/accounts.

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Quote:
6:52pmVladimir
I can't contact her. She is only able to project out. And right now, she is projecting all her thoughts it seems - it is not just myself, J and JPW who are trained in this - but the whole of the Ministry as well... If they realise they ahve another rogue...


The other rogue was Annabel? Am mostly wondering why she was one as it likely cost her life itself.


Vlad mentioned "24", also the number of the current Sunspot Cycle observed by the Royal Greenwich Observatory since 1874. Does the amount of sunspot activity somehow correlate to the effectiveness/strength of the "machine's" time ripples?

Vanessa Atalanta about her mother wrote:
- she kept going to churches though, talked about them being old and less likely to disappear or change [unlike other buildings] as time went on.

And it's been cited that "the Sun went through a period of inactivity in the late 17th century. Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715". Had Annabel concerns about the machine's use/callibrations?

EDIT: HI Zelda! Here is the Vanessa WIKI link with props to dreamerblue
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Caseys_Mom
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I've had limited computer time lately, and am just now trying to get caught up on the ARG's that are playing. Just wondering if there's a wiki for this one?
-Thanks
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Caseys_Mom wrote:
I've had limited computer time lately, and am just now trying to get caught up on the ARG's that are playing. Just wondering if there's a wiki for this one?
-Thanks


http://redqueen.wikia.com/wiki/Vanessa_Atalanta_Wiki
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Thank you for the link, Telos Very Happy
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dawndilion
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Hey James -- you asked earlier if we've ever seen or heard of JPW and Vlad meeting up. Vanessa posted a few days ago, before she started going nuts:

Quote:
jpw is still in london and J dn vlad are heading to meet him sometime.

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dawndilion wrote:
Hey James -- you asked earlier if we've ever seen or heard of JPW and Vlad meeting up. Vanessa posted a few days ago, before she started going nuts:

Quote:
jpw is still in london and J dn vlad are heading to meet him sometime.


Ah. I see. That ruins the 'lolfutureVlad' theory.
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Quote:
That ruins the 'lolfutureVlad' theory

not too sure it does - removes the they're same perso aspect [no more 'fight club twist] but doesn't remove possibility one is a future self of other though feel its unlikely.
sorry love the timetravel kill grandfather stuff - did philosophy a long time back. we bitched about this one for a few days...!!!
edit: did some more on numbers and tarot as people wanted on bubbl.us [thanks again to dreamerblue]- tried to link but people might know more. thanks

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Vanessas blog
another binary post

Quote:
Entry for 21 January 2010
0 0110001 010010 0 1 01000011 01 000001 010 011 10 0101010 0 00110010 010 10011 0100010 1 0100111 0 01010011 0100 0101 001100 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1001110 01000011 01001100 01000101 001101 00 01001010 0100 0001 01001110 0 101100 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 01 00110101 01001111 01010010 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 01000001 0100111 0 00110110 01011001 01001101 01001111 01010010 01000101 00110111 010000 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1001101 01001111 00111000 010 1 0 0 1 0 01000101 01 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 000001 0 0111001 01010100 01010111 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 010101 0 0 001 1 0 0 0 1 00110000 01010111 0 1001000 0100 0001 01010100 01001001 00110001 00110001 01010011 01001000 01000001 01010000 01010000 00110001 00110010 01000101 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1

00110011 01010100 0100 111 1 01001101 01000101

01010111 00110001 00110011 01001000 01011001 01001001 01010011 01000001 00110001 00110 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 01000100 010 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 00110001 00110011 0 1 0 1 1010 0 1011001 01000110 01000001 0 1001100 00110001 00110011 01001100 01001001 01001110 01000111 01010010 00110001 00110011 01000101 01000100 01000111 01010010 01000101 00110001 00110011 01000101 01001110 01010010 01000101 01000100 00110001 00110011 01000
111
01010010 01000101 01000101 01001110 00110001 00110011 01010010 01000101 01000100
01000111 01010010
00110001 00
11001
1 010001
01
0
1


000

1
0
1

01
0
0

111

0


Urgh, I hate numbers, make my eyes swim.
Anyway, recombobulated this into appropriate format and got
Quote:
1ICANT2SENSE3UNCLE4JANYM5OREAN6YMORE7ANYMO8REWHA9TWHAT10WHATI11SHAPP12ENING13TOMEW13HYISA13MIDIZ13ZYFAL13LINGR13EDGRE13ENRED13GREEN13REDGR13EEN

Sounds like Johan is now out of the picture.

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Re: Vanessas blog
another binary post

theclaw wrote:
Quote:
Entry for 21 January 2010
0 0110001 010010 0 1 01000011 01 000001 010 011 10 0101010 0 00110010 010 10011 0100010 1 0100111 0 01010011 0100 0101 001100 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1001110 01000011 01001100 01000101 001101 00 01001010 0100 0001 01001110 0 101100 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 01 00110101 01001111 01010010 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 01000001 0100111 0 00110110 01011001 01001101 01001111 01010010 01000101 00110111 010000 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1001101 01001111 00111000 010 1 0 0 1 0 01000101 01 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 000001 0 0111001 01010100 01010111 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 010101 0 0 001 1 0 0 0 1 00110000 01010111 0 1001000 0100 0001 01010100 01001001 00110001 00110001 01010011 01001000 01000001 01010000 01010000 00110001 00110010 01000101 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1

00110011 01010100 0100 111 1 01001101 01000101

01010111 00110001 00110011 01001000 01011001 01001001 01010011 01000001 00110001 00110 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 01000100 010 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 00110001 00110011 0 1 0 1 1010 0 1011001 01000110 01000001 0 1001100 00110001 00110011 01001100 01001001 01001110 01000111 01010010 00110001 00110011 01000101 01000100 01000111 01010010 01000101 00110001 00110011 01000101 01001110 01010010 01000101 01000100 00110001 00110011 01000
111
01010010 01000101 01000101 01001110 00110001 00110011 01010010 01000101 01000100
01000111 01010010
00110001 00
11001
1 010001
01
0
1


000

1
0
1

01
0
0

111

0


Urgh, I hate numbers, make my eyes swim.
Anyway, recombobulated this into appropriate format and got
Quote:
1ICANT2SENSE3UNCLE4JANYM5OREAN6YMORE7ANYMO8REWHA9TWHAT10WHATI11SHAPP12ENING13TOMEW13HYISA13MIDIZ13ZYFAL13LINGR13EDGRE13ENRED13GREEN13REDGR13EEN

Sounds like Johan is now out of the picture.



Looking at it like this shows a little 'pattern'
Quote:

1ICANT
2SENSE
3UNCLE
4JANYM
5OREAN
6YMORE
7ANYMO
8REWHA
9TWHAT
10WHATI
11SHAPP
12ENING
13TOMEW
13HYISA
13MIDIZ
13ZYFAL
13LINGR
13EDGRE
13ENRED
13GREEN
13REDGR
13EEN


13 is repeated 10 times

With out numbers, and with spaces.
Quote:
I Cant Sense Uncle J Any More Any More Any More Any More What What What Is Happening To Me Why Is A Midizzy Falling Red Green Red Green Red Green


Edit::

Lined up like that, taking the letters after the first number on each, you get
Quote:
ISUJOYART012333333333


"Is U Joy Art 0123333333333"

I'd say it was a coincidence, if it weren't for us being told that nothing is a coincidence.
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Questioned JPW about the links between the machine, Sunspots and Annabel and got this:

Jean Pierre Weiller wrote:
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml last para. cannot say more right now - PLEASE, watch Vlad...


The msg I sent JPW yesterday (who I've not FB friended) is almost verbatim to my post above on this page and the link he sent us is
actually one I hyperlinked there. Still groping around tho' JPW mentioned to Telos in chat to follow the "clues" re Annabel's murder.
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Interesting use of reversed tarot imagary from Vlad tonight. The magician is traditionally seen as an adept, obtaining balance and mastery of the qualities of the suits and channeling energy correctly, hence "as above, so below".

Reversed, the card can be quite different, either representing the polar opposite or a corrupted and untrustworthy version of the standard interpretation.

As with many of the tarot images used so far, this seems to indicate an almost schitzophrenic representation of the major arcana figures. Half cards are chromatically reversed. Sections of cards are removed or highlighted.

Interestingly, this has happened most with figures seen as guarding esoteric knowledge and power. The heirophant, high priestess and magician. All three are often seen as closely linked, even viewed as different aspects of each other during the fool's journey.

I'm not 100% sure of how relevant this is yet, or even the intended readings - seeing as different schools of tarot thought will read cards and links in different ways - but I'll examine this more closely tomorrow if I get time.

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I was thinking. What if the caves aren't really a cave, and what JPW sent was a herring? Didn't the Brits have bomb shelters all over the place during WW2? Maybe the 'cave' is really a bomb shelter?

Iunno. Just something that was on my mind.
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