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[Malgrim]

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[justacommenter]

Tip, I think: the ivied wall card ONLY appears in the shuttered palace. It's rare there too, but once I knew to go there it only took a few days to get it a few times.

Also, that card hurts. A lot. (But still not as bad as losing C:M)

[justacommenter]

I should give context. That post was about ways to increase Seeking Mr. Eaten's name from 3 to 4. You do NOT have to use the card that gets rid of all your Connected: Masters; there's a card that appears, as far as I know, only in the shuttered palace, "an ivied wall" as mentioned earlier in this thread, which gives you a point in Seeking Mr. Eaten's name in exchange for lots of negative things.

I believe it costs 30 points each in dangerous and watchful; it raises your wounds by a lot of points (somewhere between 5 and 10, I think), and increases suspicion by 1 or 2 points.

I think to get that card you have to have seeking the name 3 already, but I am not sure. And you have to be flipping cards in the shuttered palace. (Not sure whether the game checks where you were when the card appeared or when you flipped it.)

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[HikaruYami]

Thank you all SO MUCH about the Shuttered Palace information!! I can finally do it now!

I will begin testing 100 cards in each other location that was unlocked as of Book 2 part 1's beginning (in other words, I will temporarily not open cards in locations from the new content coming this tuesday) once I get Seeking Mr Eaten's Name 4, so once all of you who also have Seeking Mr Eaten's Name 4 have finished exploring that upcoming content, can you further look for cards that raise Seeking Mr Eaten's Name, as well?

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[HikaruYami]

I know it does not mention Connected: Masters there, but I assure you that site is missing TONS of content.

It is a "rare success" (the official name echo bazaar has given these types of things, which you have run into in other storylets, I'm sure). It has different text than the standard Success on a nephrite lens's purely luck-based ability, but it still only says "you were fortunate!" in the reward text (along with giving you the coveted connected:masters, along with using itself up--after the rare success, this item will disappear, but it does not disappear no matter how many failures or standard successes you get)

According to my tests, there is about a 2% chance, maybe a bit higher, of getting this rare success on a nephrite lens (no, not 2% out of successes, 2% including the standard 50% failure rate).

Also, while you are failing to get this, you are gaining items, instead of losing them.

Also, based on significant tests, you can estimate how many nephrite lenses are in game, and about how many actions it will take to acquire one just by constantly killing people. Admittedly, the more people know about this rare success, the harder it will be for people to acquire these nephrite lenses in the future, from combat.


But anyway, yeah, I got 3 points in connected: masters from just finding and using up nephrite lenses constantly, which got me from 2 to 3.

But it really is a RARE success. I was incredibly lucky that my very first time using the nephrite lens, some months ago, I got it on my first try. I actually thought, until I received a second lens, that it was the STANDARD success, and that the item was totally broken ;P So, my point is... you'll just have to take my word, that it works. Until you get it to work yourself.

I also tweeted this information quite some time ago, twitter username codetaku


Anyway, the point was, while this method is admittedly more luck-based, until we have MUCH more profitable actions that make completing the Mr Pages card easier, it is, based on my tests which COULD BE FLAWED (I know I don't have a huge amount of data, but it seems promising), this method of conduct is statistically advantageous for obtaining connected:masters, assuming your dangerous doesn't suck, and you can therefore obtain items by killing in K&C (and really, what kind of person would go for Connected: Masters when they haven't even hit the content caps?)

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Oh, I know that site's info is far from complete; it's just the most I have to work with, for sure about the various items attained from K&C. I went for a long time without managing to steal anything and just recently got a Giggling Mandrake, which of course was immediately stolen from me...and I stole it back...and someone else stole it...and I stole it back...and someone else stole it...whatever. (Ditto St. John's Head.) I haven't come across many of these lately, though, and I had a string a while ago when I had a much lower rank and score where I ended up with one or two of almost every K&C item. Not...really sure if there's any way to control/predict that.

Anyway. Thanks for the info--I'm still a little unclear on how it works, though. Which action is it that you're doing with the lens? The three options are listed at the wikidot site, anyway, even if the info for them is incomplete...I assume it's one of those? Does it use itself up and give you items even if you get the normal-success result, or even failure? I just...don't want to experiment too much because I'm having a hard enough time getting my hands on one, and because I know at least one of the items can send you insane, which I don't want since I really want to keep my Recurring Dreams progress. >_< (Which is sad, because otherwise it would be the most fun of the four.)

...okay, just went through your Twitter feed--so, it's the first one listed, viewing a candleflame through the lens? What does that do if you get normal success or failure?

[HikaruYami]

Correct, it is the only choice which has NO prerequisites.

If I remember correctly, a failure results in nothing (no increase in the negative stats that send you places, at least), and a success results in something like either 15 or 30 whispered secrets. Success chance is 50%.

So it is, in general, not worth very much to constantly do this, until you get a point of connected masters, which is effectively equivalent to 3,333 proscribed texts (assuming the person who said that they got 3 points of C:MotB from the Mr Pages card was right). So based on my tests, it still averages positive, relative to the guaranteed amount of time to actually USE that mr pages card, to just do this nephrite lens thing constantly.

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I too, am seeking Mr Eaten's name. I remember a while back, I had C:M 1, then I tore up the letter and lost C:M. I was well gutted.

Recently, I managed to collect 10,000 Proscribed Text for Mr Pages and therefore was back in favor with the Masters (C:M 1).

However, a couple of days ago I was going through Opportunity cards and wasn't really paying attention and somehow I managed to pull the note from Mr Iron and tear up the letter, promptly losing C:M again

My question is, does the Proscribed Text card to gain favor with the Masters appear more than once?

Also, my quest in seeking Mr Eaten's name is at 3, almost 4 and I am currently holding the "An ivied wall" card. All I need to do is to get my Dangerous up enough to play it. Will this result in me successfully discovering Mr Eaten's name?

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Just had a thought - if an Ivied Wall is unlocked in the shuttered palace at SMEN 3, now that I'm at SMEN 4, another area will unlock another card? I've been in the forgotten quarter for quite a while now, so I'd wager it wasn't there. Has anyone seen any other cards?