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GrimBloodyFable
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 		Just gonna piece together a basic conclusion with the fire and water clues.

1) Slender Man is possibly a spirit who was killed in a forest fire. His appearance is a reference to the fire department, "fire hose" arms, can stretch "like a fire department ladder". This can make you question his motives. If he was killed in a forest fire, and his territory is said forest, is he trying to stop history from repeating itself? Or is he trying to make people suffer the same fate as him?

2) Water has caused a massive amount of distortion in the series. We've discussed Slender Man being a water entity, but now that the fire entity ideas have begun springing up, it makes even more sense. The water is weakening or hurting Slender Man, which causes the distortion on screen. How it causes the distortion is something I don't know. Maybe it screws with his electromagnetic field? Or it could be Slender Man's mind lashing out in pain at everything around him, which makes all electronic equipment nearby to falter.

3) The "Operator" as popped up a lot in the series too, from TTA's videos, to Alex's drawings, to the OX symbol drawn on the ground. Most people have come to accept that this is in reference to the Camera Operator, who only appears once, and seems to smirk at the camera in a generally creepy way. In relation to points 1 and 2, maybe the Unnamed Cameraman knows something about this? He could have known the victim, he may have witnessed the event, who knows? I believe he was tied into the incident.

Please bear in mind that this whole thing is SPECULATION. I don't know any of this for certain, I'm only making educated guesses. J is going to the Red Tower soon, maybe we'll get some answers there.

If anything doesn't make sense, feel free to ask me about it. Also, King of Page 6!

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GrimBloodyFable wrote:
Just gonna piece together a basic conclusion with the fire and water clues.

1) Slender Man is possibly a spirit who was killed in a forest fire. His appearance is a reference to the fire department, "fire hose" arms, can stretch "like a fire department ladder". This can make you question his motives. If he was killed in a forest fire, and his territory is said forest, is he trying to stop history from repeating itself? Or is he trying to make people suffer the same fate as him?

Well we don't know if he can stretch. we just know he's gigantic. BUT I do agree with the fact that he was harmed or had some negative experience in a fire, now with the addition of the painting it was probably a forest fire.


GrimBloodyFable wrote:
2) Water has caused a massive amount of distortion in the series. We've discussed Slender Man being a water entity, but now that the fire entity ideas have begun springing up, it makes even more sense. The water is weakening or hurting Slender Man, which causes the distortion on screen. How it causes the distortion is something I don't know. Maybe it screws with his electromagnetic field? Or it could be Slender Man's mind lashing out in pain at everything around him, which makes all electronic equipment nearby to falter.

If he was hurt or killed in a fire, why would water make him weaker? If he's trying to be one of those smoky the bear entities (just weirder) wouldn't he want water? The extra distortion and visual tearing doesn't seem like he's weakening to me. It seems like it's giving him an extra little jolt. Like before there was water involved, he couldn't "exert" himself enough to cause the distortion, but after it was mentioned or seen he could.

GrimBloodyFable wrote:
3) The "Operator" as popped up a lot in the series too, from TTA's videos, to Alex's drawings, to the OX symbol drawn on the ground. Most people have come to accept that this is in reference to the Camera Operator, who only appears once, and seems to smirk at the camera in a generally creepy way. In relation to points 1 and 2, maybe the Unnamed Cameraman knows something about this? He could have known the victim, he may have witnessed the event, who knows? I believe he was tied into the incident.

OR it could be another individual entirely. It could have been Alex, Jay, Brian, Slendy, hell, it could have even been the fireman that put the forest fire out Laughing

EDIT: The operator could have been the person that released him from being trapped in the forest. If he died there, he could have been trapped there until said operator saw him or summoned him (like the symbol drawn on the ground) and that released him. When whoever that was (probably Alex, first, although that's debatable.) realized that they couldn't send him BACK, they tried to pass him off onto someone else.
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 		Watch the whole "died in a fire" be nothing but a flarp we all are going off of. XD

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GrimBloodyFable
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Moon wrote:
If he was hurt or killed in a fire, why would water make him weaker? If he's trying to be one of those smoky the bear entities (just weirder) wouldn't he want water? The extra distortion and visual tearing doesn't seem like he's weakening to me. It seems like it's giving him an extra little jolt. Like before there was water involved, he couldn't "exert" himself enough to cause the distortion, but after it was mentioned or seen he could.


I was thinking of it as burning to death caused him to associate with fire, making him a fire spirit. I can see what you mean, but I didn't mean it that way.

Moon wrote:
OR it could be another individual entirely. It could have been Alex, Jay, Brian, Slendy, hell, it could have even been the fireman that put the forest fire out Laughing


Well, yeah, but I was just assuming that the cameraman was the operator. Every single thing I wrote was speculation. And by the way, do you mean this in the sense that any of them could be the operator, or any of them could have witnessed the fire?

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EDIT: The operator could have been the person that released him from being trapped in the forest. If he died there, he could have been trapped there until said operator saw him or summoned him (like the symbol drawn on the ground) and that released him. When whoever that was (probably Alex, first, although that's debatable.) realized that they couldn't send him BACK, they tried to pass him off onto someone else.


This is a pretty good theory. It kind of reminds me of the Chzo Mythos series. Cabadath was imprisoned in a tree by Chzo, which disfigured him into the Tall Man. Eventually, a lumberjack chopped down the tree which freed the Tall Man. He then murdered the woodcutter and traumatized his son. After that, the wood from the tree was cursed, causing anything made from it to be haunted by the Tall Man.

If you're wondering where I'm going with this, I'm thinking that maybe some wood from the forest was carved into a commonplace item. That item was then used in or near the set of Marble Hornets, which less than pleased Slender Man. Of course, I'm just using an indie freeware game as my source, so this whole thing could be bull.

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GrimBloodyFable wrote:


This is a pretty good theory. It kind of reminds me of the Chzo Mythos series. Cabadath was imprisoned in a tree by Chzo, which disfigured him into the Tall Man. Eventually, a lumberjack chopped down the tree which freed the Tall Man. He then murdered the woodcutter and traumatized his son. After that, the wood from the tree was cursed, causing anything made from it to be haunted by the Tall Man.

If you're wondering where I'm going with this, I'm thinking that maybe some wood from the forest was carved into a commonplace item. That item was then used in or near the set of Marble Hornets, which less than pleased Slender Man. Of course, I'm just using an indie freeware game as my source, so this whole thing could be bull.


Like one of the trinkets that Alex's parents were supposed to have lying around the house?
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 		If anything was 'used on the marble hornets set' that was attached to Slenderman, it was the red tower. I'm pretty sure Slendy's first actual appearance to everyone was in entry 12, when Alex, Brian, and Sarah are waiting for Tim and Slendy is standing on the set off to one side, and Alex goes to shoo him off the set when Tim gets there.

This place looks like it's right next to the stand of trees where Alex and Jay were location scouting in Entry 5, when they saw the red tower.

The only thing that confuses me is that this, and entry 2 both seem like they could only be Alex's first encounter with Slendy, so obviously at some point after his real first encounter, Alex lost his memory of it. But if entry 12 was the actual first encounter Alex had with Slendy, then it seems to have happened just a few hundred yards away from the tower...

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GrimBloodyFable
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Badgerconda wrote:
If anything was 'used on the marble hornets set' that was attached to Slenderman, it was the red tower. I'm pretty sure Slendy's first actual appearance to everyone was in entry 12, when Alex, Brian, and Sarah are waiting for Tim and Slendy is standing on the set off to one side, and Alex goes to shoo him off the set when Tim gets there.

This place looks like it's right next to the stand of trees where Alex and Jay were location scouting in Entry 5, when they saw the red tower.

The only thing that confuses me is that this, and entry 2 both seem like they could only be Alex's first encounter with Slendy, so obviously at some point after his real first encounter, Alex lost his memory of it. But if entry 12 was the actual first encounter Alex had with Slendy, then it seems to have happened just a few hundred yards away from the tower...


Yeah, I figured it was the tower too. I think Entry 12 precedes Entry 2, as Alex seems slightly more edgy when he explains what he saw in Entry 2.

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lifegospel wrote:
GrimBloodyFable wrote:


This is a pretty good theory. It kind of reminds me of the Chzo Mythos series. Cabadath was imprisoned in a tree by Chzo, which disfigured him into the Tall Man. Eventually, a lumberjack chopped down the tree which freed the Tall Man. He then murdered the woodcutter and traumatized his son. After that, the wood from the tree was cursed, causing anything made from it to be haunted by the Tall Man.

If you're wondering where I'm going with this, I'm thinking that maybe some wood from the forest was carved into a commonplace item. That item was then used in or near the set of Marble Hornets, which less than pleased Slender Man. Of course, I'm just using an indie freeware game as my source, so this whole thing could be bull.


Like one of the trinkets that Alex's parents were supposed to have lying around the house?

Shocked YES.
That's even how they got the NAME of the ARG.
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Moon wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
GrimBloodyFable wrote:


This is a pretty good theory. It kind of reminds me of the Chzo Mythos series. Cabadath was imprisoned in a tree by Chzo, which disfigured him into the Tall Man. Eventually, a lumberjack chopped down the tree which freed the Tall Man. He then murdered the woodcutter and traumatized his son. After that, the wood from the tree was cursed, causing anything made from it to be haunted by the Tall Man.

If you're wondering where I'm going with this, I'm thinking that maybe some wood from the forest was carved into a commonplace item. That item was then used in or near the set of Marble Hornets, which less than pleased Slender Man. Of course, I'm just using an indie freeware game as my source, so this whole thing could be bull.


Like one of the trinkets that Alex's parents were supposed to have lying around the house?

Shocked YES.
That's even how they got the NAME of the ARG.



I knew that, but I meant what if somebody made a trinket out of a tree from that forest, and then gave it (Possibly unknowingly) to Alex's parents, which started this whole thing.
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lifegospel wrote:
Moon wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
GrimBloodyFable wrote:


This is a pretty good theory. It kind of reminds me of the Chzo Mythos series. Cabadath was imprisoned in a tree by Chzo, which disfigured him into the Tall Man. Eventually, a lumberjack chopped down the tree which freed the Tall Man. He then murdered the woodcutter and traumatized his son. After that, the wood from the tree was cursed, causing anything made from it to be haunted by the Tall Man.

If you're wondering where I'm going with this, I'm thinking that maybe some wood from the forest was carved into a commonplace item. That item was then used in or near the set of Marble Hornets, which less than pleased Slender Man. Of course, I'm just using an indie freeware game as my source, so this whole thing could be bull.


Like one of the trinkets that Alex's parents were supposed to have lying around the house?

Shocked YES.
That's even how they got the NAME of the ARG.



I knew that, but I meant what if somebody made a trinket out of a tree from that forest, and then gave it (Possibly unknowingly) to Alex's parents, which started this whole thing.


No no, I know. I'm saying it's a really good theory and may explain a lot.
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 		I dunno, how many marble trees are there? Razz

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I dunno, how many marble trees are there? Razz


We're talking about someone carving a slendy figure (I think) out of one of the trees thus summoning him into the Kralie household.

The fact that his parents had a marble hornet in their house is where they got the name of the IG film project (and subsequently the name of the ARG, if it is one), but the wooden figure could explain how slendy came to be a part of all of this.

I wonder if someone gave it to them or if someone LEFT it for them? (Assuming that this is what happened.) If someone gave it to them, wouldn't you wonder if they knew who it was? They could have bought it. Or it could have been left on their doorstep. (Or something similar.)

Of course, none of us are even sure that this is actually how things went down. It's all speculation. (Just like everything else in this forum has been.)

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 		so what?

are we saying that slendy is actually cabadath and ce gars posted it on sumethingawful to confuse people?
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 		Don't know how important this could be, but I hadn't seen it posted in here yet: the description for the video is "s". Maybe this has something to do with that weird undulating S in some of totheark's other videos?

And please tell me someone made a connection between the upside-down "tick tock", the tower shape of the binary clocks we've seen, and the upside-down tower.

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 		Hidden Message in Version?
There might be a hidden message in version.
Has anyone else noticed this- In "Version," the words

Poison
Random
Ending
Centered
Excludes
Death
Encounter
Stale
Truth
Receive
Ending
Every
Section

"Precedes Trees?"

I'm new to the forum, but has anyone else noticed this? Any speculation on what it means?

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