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flailspound
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 		"Paranormal is a general term that describes unusual experiences that lack a scientific explanation, or phenomena alleged to be outside of science's current ability to explain or measure"

Paranormal can include extraterrestrial beings.

Not that I believe that he might be an alien, that would be a weak storyline premise. But still, if he was originally created as a 'paranormal entity' then alien can't be ruled out.

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flailspound wrote:
"Paranormal is a general term that describes unusual experiences that lack a scientific explanation, or phenomena alleged to be outside of science's current ability to explain or measure"

Paranormal can include extraterrestrial beings.

Not that I believe that he might be an alien, that would be a weak storyline premise. But still, if he was originally created as a 'paranormal entity' then alien can't be ruled out.


Still doesn't undermine the initial point, which was that people are going WAY OUT THERE with their theories now. I mean, I'm just waiting for it to turn in to an episode of Jerry Springer in here, with people beating eachother down, claiming Slendy is their 'babby-daddy' and shit.

Edit : posting a picture in the Slender Man Images thread. Something some of you may find shocking. I've found Slendy's true identity. He IS an alien.
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 		Wow, ok this is a minor revelation that could prove pivotal. Have we ever seen Tim and Brian in the same place at the same time during a slendy sighting? Come to think of it we have never seen them together at all. It is more than likely that we are dealing with SLender MEN. Assuming that Slender Man is created from a human that would make sense. We never see the two together at all and there is never a real reason given to account for their absences. Its just a though and if anyone can prove me wrong please do but I think the fact that we have never seen Tim and Brian together may be rather important.

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starfish1441 wrote:
Wow, ok this is a minor revelation that could prove pivotal. Have we ever seen Tim and Brian in the same place at the same time during a slendy sighting? Come to think of it we have never seen them together at all. It is more than likely that we are dealing with SLender MEN. Assuming that Slender Man is created from a human that would make sense. We never see the two together at all and there is never a real reason given to account for their absences. Its just a though and if anyone can prove me wrong please do but I think the fact that we have never seen Tim and Brian together may be rather important.


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Dude? We've never seen Brian. Ever.


With all due respect Trout We have seen Brian, in a couple videos. Entry 7, Entry 12, and TTA video responce Advocate. Brian exists, we've seen him, ect.. ect..

Also, to correct several posts on here, the sickness is not just kept inside the house. Yes, thats where we have video evidence of it, But Jay was sick/blacking out and the like prior to ever going to the house. Check his twitter account to verify.

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lifegospel wrote:
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Has no-one else gIven much though to The properties of sickness WIthin the house? The fact that peopLe who inhabit the space within the buiLding seem often get sick whilst inside? We've seen J coughing his guts up to the point where he's on the floor, and we've seen Tim exhibiting similar BEhaviour. PerhapS the housE itself has morE going on thaN might meet the eye.


It will be seen? Pssh, get out of here mr Gamejack



Yeah, but he has a point. Both Jay and Tim have only been shown to be sick around or in the house so far.


You have a point. Hmm, I was so busy looking at the caps I didn't even read it properly [you can tell I'm new to this >_>]

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It's not radiation.


Can you verify this please? The sickness certainly gives some weight against your claim. Also it would be important to remember the videos lacking distortion that feature slendy; TTA / MM seem to have a hefty effect, in contrast. If TTA serves as a warning, literally "get to the Ark" it's likely he's spent some time around such an object / vessel, and it wouldn't be absurd to suggest that such a craft would emit radiation (various 'UFO' stories have used this pitch).

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Slendy isn't an alien.


Again, this is a pretty definitive claim which would need to be verified to be said with such sense of authority, but he doesn't need to be an alien for the I.A. theory.

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TTA isn't some space-man.


Probably not, it seems most likely one of the characters we have already been introduced to (at least by hearing their name). I don't think that TTA nor Slendy being space-men is implied by an Interstellar Ark theory though. TTA could have simply been gravely affected by Slendy and the radiation of the Ark (this would comply with the TTA's-trying-to-help side of the camp). Slendy will bring woe such that a chosen few will need to escape somehow. An interstellar ark may be the only way (though these guys escaping on a spaceship does seem beyond the plot at the moment i agree).


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Slendy was created in a 'Create Paranormal Images' thread, he was treated as a paranormal figure, his creator says he's paranormal. HMMM, I WONDER WHAT THAT MAKES HIM. I'd say...NOT AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL BEING.


He doesn't need to be extraterrestrial for there to be an interstellar ark involved; he doesn't need to be the purveyor of the Ark.


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I've said it various times before - TTA is human. His little thing about Jay not being able to be trusted is from a philosophical standpoint. Various philosophers through out time have said humanity can't be trusted, it's in our nature to lie and deceive.


That's fine, and he can still be human with an I.A. theory. It explains Tim's sickness, J's increasing sickness as he spends more time in radiated areas (where the radiation has been 'spread'; cross-contamination).

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Why would this so called 'interstellar ark' cause radiation to leak out of a hole for no reason? Have we seen TTA screwing around in that hole? Do we have any viable reason to why he would be? Do we have any proof that he even knew of the hole's existance until Jay got it on camera?



The hole could very well be one of several landing-gear marks in the forest floor. Why the hell would the hole cause a distortion reaction in the camera? ectoplasm in there?

TTA doesn't need to have been in the hole, so that's a bit of a false dilemma you've raised. And no, we have no knowledge of its existence until #21.


Your aggressive and arrogant tone really lowers the quality of your arguments; can't we try and stay a little more friendly? I understand frustration against very faulty logic, but you are not free from error yourself.

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Hammermans wrote:
A bunch of stuff, most of it rational.


Point taken. I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think Telos will agree with the spirit of your post, if not its specifics. The problem is, while there is no evidence AGAINST the alien/radiation theory, there's really no evidence FOR it either, beyond pure crazy speculation. Being asked to prove a negative is a shitty situation to be put in. I can't, for instance, prove that there isn't a Judeo-Christian god, even if I don't believe in his existence. Nor can I prove that Slenderman is not an alien whose radioactive nature affects the characters in this ARG. But the burden of proof is not on me, since I didn't suggest the theory. Many people are becoming frustrated with the increasingly out-there speculation that keeps popping up.

But that's not really your point, is it? Your point, as I understand it, is that we're beginning (all of us) to act like children about this. Which is, unfortunately, true. We should maybe take a step back, go drink a beer and smoke some weed and hang out with our friends (you remember those, right guys? They're like the people you talk to online, but they're made out of meat and standing right in front of you) and come back when we can remember what the G in ARG stands for.

My two cents.

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 		the really depressing thing about all this is that as its a game, and in the end all the details may have nothing to do with the original SM myth. it comes down to literally a couple guys blogging at each other and shaping a story out of it - if the marble hornets boys really wanted SM, masky and TTA could all be the doings of the infamous wanky-shit-deamon.

lets pray that these guys do have a connection with somethingawful, or atleast respect the original myth... (IMO, if its aliens we should hurt the writers... that'd be the worse cop-out of a plot's climax than Law Abiding Citizen)

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 		I don't disagree with you, Hammermans. There isn't anything specific to this ARG to prove or disprove it. I'm just taking the Ockham's Razor approach to this. Which is basically using the background we have on the subject to stick with the most direct and rational reasoning instead of theories that may or may not be true that are based on pure speculation.

And yeah, my tone in that last rant was aggressive, but I'm sure you'll understand being ticked off at the whole lack of logical explanations to things, crazy theories, and the influx of claims with no backing and claims that come from uninformed people.

It makes me think back to the pipe discussion. What was it? Three to five pages about a pipe that may or may not have been slendy and all the ideas and theories as to why it was him. Really. Was that needed? Even if it -was- him, having to hunt that hard and then push the point that the posters didn't even fully support, made it moot. That's what all this reminds me of.

I mean, If I were going around saying "Oh, TTA is Noah, because Noah went on an Ark and he saved animals and humans are animals, so he's trying to save Jay, and the radiation is pure holy aura fucking with the tapes." I'm sure I'd get some people thinking I was a nut too. And, really, if we're going with the whole interstellar ark idea, that Noah one doesn't sound too far fetched either. There's having an open mind, and then there's having a gaping hole where anything sounds 'logical'.

This is why I hate cliff-hangers. Drop a bomb on us and then leave us to wonder what the hell just happened/why, for too long, and we become a bit...stir crazy, and on edge.

Just wish Jay would put something else out. Even if it's just 30 seconds of random footage from before. Just something to move us forward a bit.
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Hammermans wrote:
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It's not radiation.


Can you verify this please? The sickness certainly gives some weight against your claim. Also it would be important to remember the videos lacking distortion that feature slendy; TTA / MM seem to have a hefty effect, in contrast. If TTA serves as a warning, literally "get to the Ark" it's likely he's spent some time around such an object / vessel, and it wouldn't be absurd to suggest that such a craft would emit radiation (various 'UFO' stories have used this pitch).


so the funny thing about the "Ark" is that you have no idea what Ark he could be referring to there's the "interstellar ark" which would be powered by nuclear pulsation or there is the Ark of the Covenant which i think would be extremely interesting.

For those of you that don't know Ark of the Covenant is the sacred chest that contains the 2 tablets on which God wrote his ten commandments and gave them to moses.

In the Bible there are several stories relating to this Ark.

"According to what the Bible says. Aaron's sons Nadab and Abihu, died when they went into the Tabernacle, shortly after the Ark had been placed there; A flame came out and devoured them alive. The strange thing was that Moses, ignored all the demands of ritual burial and ordered both corpses to be removed from the camp. What was Moses afraid of?"

"In any case, the wooden structure of the Ark, with a double lining of gold and closed with a slab of gold, brings to mind of modern day containers that are used for radioactive materials, where lead and cement are substituted for gold."



Those are 2 explanations of different bible passage pertaining the Ark.

There have been speculations made by modern historians that the unknown energy source contained within the ark is possibly radioactive in nature but unknown.

OK

now that i have explained the Ark here is how it could possibly relate to the story.

Now one of the possible locations for the Ark OOG is The Chapel of the Tablet in Axum here it is kept and guarded by one monk, The Keeper of the Ark. He is the sole person allowed to enter the Chapel grounds.

Now In Game Obviously the Ark isn't in Axum, but somewhere in the vicinity of the game, and TSM is the guardian. ToTheArk is Seth and is driven slightly mad from his encouter with TSM/Keeper and is consumed with obtaining the Ark for whatever reason and is USING jay to get what he wants.

duh.[/quote]

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Dude? We've never seen Brian. Ever.


With all due respect Trout We have seen Brian, in a couple videos. Entry 7, Entry 12, and TTA video responce Advocate. Brian exists, we've seen him, ect.. ect..

Also, to correct several posts on here, the sickness is not just kept inside the house. Yes, thats where we have video evidence of it, But Jay was sick/blacking out and the like prior to ever going to the house. Check his twitter account to verify.


But it is quite interesting how both Tim and J break down at pretty much exact the same place in the house - in front of the closet - the very same one SM apparently faces at the end of "Return", and the same one someone's been sleeping in (?), as we see in 16 and 18 (if memory serves).

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 		actually i don't think that is the one someone was sleeping in cause when watching the video to get those pictures i paid attention to see whether or not it was. although im not 100% positive because well its hard with all the aiming down of the camera and poor lighting.

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so the funny thing about the "Ark" is that you have no idea what Ark he could be referring to there's the "interstellar ark" which would be powered by nuclear pulsation or there is the Ark of the Covenant which i think would be extremely interesting.

For those of you that don't know Ark of the Covenant is the sacred chest that contains the 2 tablets on which God wrote his ten commandments and gave them to moses.
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I would say either a Noah reference or the Interstellar Ark are more viable options; "To The Ark" in phrasing holds an implication similar "get to the ship!" or "get in the car!" rather than "find object x".

The name itself could be a (cruel) red herring, let's not forget.


The interstellar Ark idea caught my attention as in conjunct with radiation it would provide some understanding across a fair amount of stuff at once.

It is fair to say that we must only take as a given the information we already have; but the whole fun of an ARG is surely trying to work out what's going on and what's going to happen. This, of course, requires speculation and exercise of the imagination within the framework of the facts we have.

As for the confirmation of a negative, this is equally redundant to an unconfirmed positive. Some kind of instances are required to give support to the claim. (see: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-inductive/ )


Moreover, let's not forget that he name itself could be a (cruel) red herring.

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Hammermans wrote:

I would say either a Noah reference or the Interstellar Ark are more viable options; "To The Ark" in phrasing holds an implication similar "get to the ship!" or "get in the car!" rather than "find object x".


well i don't believe it to be like "find the object", but more of a like "get to the ark" or possibly even "this channel is to the ark" meaning leads to the ark.

i don't honestly believe that its the Ark of the Covenant (i just got bored and started typing a lot for my own entertainment) but perhaps the ark being the case that contained the tape. and the tape is more like the tablets. and this would be an explanation for why totheark is not posting anything because he's served his purpose it also explains the "waiting for you" in version.

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