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Eleven
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HyperCubed4 wrote:
Droshi wrote:
Comment irrelevant to my post.


The ear thing hasn't been mentioned (at least, I haven't seen it).


I think that the two pictures that you showed us don't lend any credence to your theory. Comparing the right ear in both pics can't really substantiate anything: the corresponding angles are just too wanky and the light on the Masky pic is just too dark to discern. Tim's right ear, closer to the top, looks far thinner than Masky's right ear near the top, but again, I can't justify this because of 1.) the fucked up angle we see Masky's ear, 2.) the unforgivable darkness in Masky's pic.

There's just not enough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point (based on the ears). I'll definitely check previous Entries and TTA responses to see if I can help with this theory though.
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get Firefox 3.5 bro


The big avatar thing i meant was forum rules. 100x100 only. And I have 3.5.7

Now to the actual on topic post ::
On the Masky thing. The earlobes bit is a lot more convincing than the other information out there. I mean, from what I can tell, no one on the cast has the same style earlobes.

I'm still not totally convinced, though. I mean, you have to remember, they're film students. They're obviously not rolling in cash, so, using the same actor for another part when IG they're two different people with no biological connection isn't something that couldn't be considered.To the jacket bit again. Masky is known for his uh..home invasion.. He could simply have stolen the jacket. Even if Tim was having seizures, and masky is thought to have stolen the pills from Jay, leaving him with an empty bottle - it doesn't add up. Why is Tim Masky? It especially doesn't add up to me if TTA is Masky. Tim doesn't seem the type to be super cryptic and shit. Then again, we haven't seen a whole lot of him, so i don't know.

On the new TTA response. I'm starting to think TTA may not be Masky. That whole 'US' bit may not be referring to Masky and Slendy, but rather Masky and TTA. Unless he's just got split personalities and is refering to himself as two people.
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Eleven wrote:
I think that the two pictures that you showed us don't lend any credence to your theory. Comparing the right ear in both pics can't really substantiate anything: the corresponding angles are just too wanky and the light on the Masky pic is just too dark to discern. Tim's right ear, closer to the top, looks far thinner than Masky's right ear near the top, but again, I can't justify this because of 1.) the fucked up angle we see Masky's ear, 2.) the unforgivable darkness in Masky's pic.

There's just not enough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point (based on the ears). I'll definitely check previous Entries and TTA responses to see if I can help with this theory though.


Yeah, they're not the best quality pictures. However, if you rewatch Entries 19 and 20 yourself, I think you'll see the earlobes are exactly the same. I don't know if that matters or not, though. Like I said, the same actor for two different characters isn't exactly unheard of.

EDIT: Sorry, I just saw your last post, Telos954. Your split personalities idea is easily possible, but Jay seems like the kind of director that wants to add as many characters as possible. Why Seth? Why not Sarah or Brian? Quite confusing.

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Eleven wrote:
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So overwhelming, in fact, that if it didn't turn out to be him it would just be stupid at this point. Like they would be trying to throw us an M. Night twist or something.


Well, as the old adage goes: "If we speculate that Tim is Masky but it turns out that it was another guy in Tim's coat, we won't be blind-sided by a spine-jerking plot-twist."


Ahh yes, that classic saying. It was the last thing my dad said to me before I left for college. I had no idea what he was talking about until now.

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Eleven wrote:
Droshi wrote:
So overwhelming, in fact, that if it didn't turn out to be him it would just be stupid at this point. Like they would be trying to throw us an M. Night twist or something.


Well, as the old adage goes: "If we speculate that Tim is Masky but it turns out that it was another guy in Tim's coat, we won't be blind-sided by a spine-jerking plot-twist."


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Posted this on YouTube, but I thought I would put it here too.

I think there is more to Jay. What if he is the one who made this new totheark video? What if he, at least in part, IS totheark? Maybe not initially, but what if he is now? What if it got passed onto him?

If you notice, this video looks very different from other totheark videos. For instance, like I said before, "Return to us" is in the exact same font and style as Jay's text in his Entries (dating back to the Introduction). That has never happened before.

Maybe "Wake up" is him telling himself to snap out of it and realize that he is actually communicating with himself.

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Droshi wrote:
Posted this on YouTube, but I thought I would put it here too.

I think there is more to Jay. What if he is the one who made this new totheark video? What if he, at least in part, IS totheark? Maybe not initially, but what if he is now? What if it got passed onto him?

If you notice, this video looks very different from other totheark videos. For instance, like I said before, "Return to us" is in the exact same font and style as Jay's text in his Entries (dating back to the Introduction). That has never happened before.

Maybe "Wake up" is him telling himself to snap out of it and realize that he is actually communicating with himself.


I wondered who might have posted that, and I remember reading it. =P

That made me start to think that totheark could be a cult of some kind that worships Slender Man, and the youtube account belongs to all of them, whoever they might be. Maybe J has joined, and doesn't realize it yet, or something. I don't like it, but it's a possibility.

Also, I've been inactive for quite a while and I'm too lazy to go back and read, but I take it the forum splitting into two threads was so that this thread could be serious business and the other thread could be loltastic?

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Guys, it's not that people who think that Tim= Masky aren't aware that you can change clothes, it's that it wouldn't make any sense to put the two characters in the same, very noticeable yellow jacket in two consecutive entries unless it meant something, it would just be crappy storytelling. Almost a Chekov's Gun type of scenario.

And let's continue to try and focus discussion on the new TTA video in the appropriate thread, rather than here. It makes it much easier to access all the information without wading through pages of duplicated (or near-duplicated) posts.

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Badgerconda wrote:
Guys, it's not that people who think that Tim= Masky aren't aware that you can change clothes, it's that it wouldn't make any sense to put the two characters in the same, very noticeable yellow jacket in two consecutive entries unless it meant something, it would just be crappy storytelling. Almost a Chekov's Gun type of scenario.

And let's continue to try and focus discussion on the new TTA video in the appropriate thread, rather than here. It makes it much easier to access all the information without wading through pages of duplicated (or near-duplicated) posts.


I was under the impression Chekov's Gun only came in to play with things that are given a major focus only to not be explained later. Like that bullet casing was given a key focus, but has never been touched on aside from the fact that it was stolen.

Edit :: To clear up what I mean.
Chekov originally used it as a form of criticism, stating that nothing given detail shouldn't be used in the story. If you go in to detail about a gun on the wall, at some point, that gun must be fired, or it's useless in the story.
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In regards to Tim:

The simplest solution is often the most likely. The similarities of the jacket are almost certainly intentional. Could the masked man (I'm sorry, I can't use "Masky," it's just too vomitously cute) have stolen Tim's jacket, or bought the same jacket? Sure, but that's simply poor story building, and I think these guys are smarter than that. Either this is a red herring, or Tim has some connection to the masked person (who Jay appears to believe is TTA). If it's a red herring, it's a poorly executed one, one with the potential to spin out into an absurd deus ex machina resolution. Like, "Hey guys, I know we were purposefully pointing you toward Tim and that we have, as of this point, not presented any compelling evidence that the masked man is anyone else, but, SURPRISE! It's Jay's dad!"

Either that or the dudes in charge made a really amateur mistake and used the same piece of clothing for two distinct characters.

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RatheadSyndicate wrote:

Either that or the dudes in charge made a really amateur mistake and used the same piece of clothing for two distinct characters.


It's a possibility they didn't plan on Tim being a big character until after the fact.


On another point, in his current state, Masky seems like an amateur move on the part of the writer/PM. He just appears out of nowhere with no story, no connection to anything, and does shit that seems (In the pure context of the videos he appears in, not the world of speculation) totally meaningless. I mean, he really seems to be just pulled out of their ass because they needed filler to move things along.

Hopefully this changes, and Masky is more than just some creep in a mask doing 'random' things.

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It's possible all of Slenderman's minions own that jacket, because it means they're part of his posse. And everyone knows, when you're a Jet, you're a Jet till your very last breath. Or maybe all of them have that jacket, in the same vein as being a member of the crew, we just haven't seen anyone wearing it.

This is the problem with everyone's suggestions; They hold them as the candle that will lead them through the darkest valley, no matter how little the wick is. These are all just speculation; Mine, too. They MIGHT be right, but it's still speculation.

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Telos954 wrote:


On another point, in his current state, Masky seems like an amateur move on the part of the writer/PM. He just appears out of nowhere with no story, no connection to anything, and does shit that seems (In the pure context of the videos he appears in, not the world of speculation) totally meaningless. I mean, he really seems to be just pulled out of their ass because they needed filler to move things along.

Hopefully this changes, and Masky is more than just some creep in a mask doing 'random' things.


Obviously you're not going to know the origins and connections of every character in a piece of fiction the second they appear... he was originally an unknown, but his connections to things are being slowly revealed as time goes on. Like any mysterious individual in a work of fiction.

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Has anyone tried analysing the video distortion, in the sense of, where were they/what was happening/who was around at the times that the video/audio becomes distorted, and how much?

It was my initial understanding that Slenderman's presence caused video disruption, this seemed clear, but others have given examples (that I have yet to check) of the audio/video becoming disrupted without Slenderman having ever been seen. Then there is of course the disruption caused by the presence of "Masky", but no Slenderman.

Slenderman seems to cause loss of memory though, he does this to Jay on more than one occasion and it seems to be exclusive to Jay, until entry 22 whereby we discover that Alex suffered memory loss from apparent contact with Slenderman too, which is a fairly big development IMHO, even if I'm not sure what it means yet. I was tempted at first to believe that it was to hide himself from those he wasn't stalking (everyone but Alex) but now this doesn't seem so.

I think the video filming is the key here. I think it is more than just a filming technique, I think its intergral to the plot. I think Slenderman stalks people for whatever reason and does not want them to know, but when Alex starts digging, Slenderman ups the assault and starts to severly stress out Alex. Think about it, Alex has a camera and cameras seem to mess up when Slenderman is around, as if its a defense to stop being caught on tape, but he still is and perhaps this is why he targets Alex to turn him crazy until the point where he wants to burn the tapes - and thus destroy the evidence of Slenderman. But then Jay convinces Alex to give him the tapes instead, and so he becomes Slenderman's target? That would certainly make me think that Alex is Masky/totheark and that, knowing what is instore, he adopts a cryptic anonymity (perhaps to hide more from Jay than Slendy) to try and protect him. First, by trying to scare him off (as the wiki suggests) and later by physically trying to keep him "alive" (or sane?)

Thats my theory so far anyway, admittedly it suddenly came to me as I was typing this treply and my ideas were coming together.

**Forgive me if I've posted (a) theory(ies) that have been presented before, I'm joining this ARG/story pretty late and have tried to catch up - have read this thread through and a fair bit of the wiki, but I may still have missed things.

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Badgerconda wrote:
Telos954 wrote:


On another point, in his current state, Masky seems like an amateur move on the part of the writer/PM. He just appears out of nowhere with no story, no connection to anything, and does shit that seems (In the pure context of the videos he appears in, not the world of speculation) totally meaningless. I mean, he really seems to be just pulled out of their ass because they needed filler to move things along.

Hopefully this changes, and Masky is more than just some creep in a mask doing 'random' things.


Obviously you're not going to know the origins and connections of every character in a piece of fiction the second they appear... he was originally an unknown, but his connections to things are being slowly revealed as time goes on. Like any mysterious individual in a work of fiction.


I'm aware, but, there's usually some build up for a character like that to appear. Something to segway in to it.
Take this scenario :
Good guy (A) is being stalked by bad guy (B). A is having his own internal problems, and B is just making things worse, but, everything is sticking to that plot. All of sudden, a space-cow (C) comes, and starts bothering A. C has no background in the story, nor the things the story is based off of. Yet it just comes magically out of nowhere. A is like WTF. B seems to not give a shit, and the readers are left like "Uh. Wat?"

That's Masky, in my mind. And by people's initial reaction to him - I'd say a bunch of other people's as well.
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