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Game Discussion (cont from Trailhead)
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Sylvine
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RatheadSyndicate wrote:

Either that or the dudes in charge made a really amateur mistake and used the same piece of clothing for two distinct characters.


You know, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, the guys are doing a fine job, but, honestly, there are bigger mistakes in huge-budgeted final cuts of commercial movies, why not their little series? Especially since it's not the first time.

I've just rewatched entry 19.5 because I thought of something. Made me laugh. "After checking entry 16, I know [the pills bottle] wasn't empty when I found it".

Of course not, J. Because You showed us the wrong container.

Pills here!

Notice how the left container has a square base, while the right one is round. This is not just a weird angle, compare the edges on the table. The left one is also the one he grabs (Link to entry 19.5 for Your convenience).

The container he shows us in entry 19.5, however, is round.

Also, the labels appear to be intact in entry 16, though its difficult to tell with the shaky camera, so I might be wrong on that one.

Either it's a very, veeeeery subtle way of telling us someone switched out the pill container between 16 and 19.5 - same person who took the bullet casing? - or, more likely, just a little filming mistake.

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Telos954
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Sylvine wrote:
RatheadSyndicate wrote:

Either that or the dudes in charge made a really amateur mistake and used the same piece of clothing for two distinct characters.


You know, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, the guys are doing a fine job, but, honestly, there are bigger mistakes in huge-budgeted final cuts of commercial movies, why not their little series? Especially since it's not the first time.

I've just rewatched entry 19.5 because I thought of something. Made me laugh. "After checking entry 16, I know [the pills bottle] wasn't empty when I found it".

Of course not, J. Because You showed us the wrong container.

Pills here!

Notice how the left container has a square base, while the right one is round. This is not just a weird angle, compare the edges on the table. The left one is also the one he grabs (Link to entry 19.5 for Your convenience).

The container he shows us in entry 19.5, however, is round.

Also, the labels appear to be intact in entry 16, though its difficult to tell with the shaky camera, so I might be wrong on that one.

Either it's a very, veeeeery subtle way of telling us someone switched out the pill container between 16 and 19.5 - same person who took the bullet casing? - or, more likely, just a little filming mistake.

~Sylv


GRABBIN PEEELS!

Any way. I'd have to agree. I thought the same thing after the second or third time watching the video. I was on the side of 'different pill bottle, due to error' and not the 'lol subtly' side.
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 		I have a theory. This theory is about TTA and Masky being separate entities but working with each other. If TTA was Seth, maybe what ever happened in 22 left him crippled/immobile. Masky, in my mind, is 98% likely to be Tim thus having little experience in video editing and camera operators should know a decent amount of editing, right? Maybe TTA is having Masky work for him in some way due to his handicap?

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Droshi
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 		NEW TWEET:

"I don't like the fact that it says 'us' in the video."

He also linked to the new TTA response.

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Droshi wrote:
NEW TWEET:

"I don't like the fact that it says 'us' in the video."

He also linked to the new TTA response.


Damn you're quick. It's also good to know he is also suspicious of the 'us'.
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Droshi
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Eleven wrote:
Droshi wrote:
NEW TWEET:

"I don't like the fact that it says 'us' in the video."

He also linked to the new TTA response.


Damn you're quick. It's also good to know he is also suspicious of the 'us'.

Haha, I get them to my phone so it's instant notification for me. I just happened to be by my laptop. And yes, I agree. I asked him about the font thing on YouTube, we'll see if he responds.

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nyc_jester
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 		His paranoia is increasing exponentially now. I think we can safely say this is a similar path mentally as to what Alex traveled. I'm thinking more and more that J is dealing with a cult of some type. He's forgetting things, having a hard time thinking for himself. That combined with all the religious imagery make me think there's a cult of Slendy out there. The question for me now is what purpose do they serve?

Edit: Just thought of something and this is WILD speculation so take it for what it is. But what if another twitter account shows up (maybe similar to TTA's youtube page) and J starts "following" the tweets. Quite a double meaning there.

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Telos954 wrote:
RatheadSyndicate wrote:

Either that or the dudes in charge made a really amateur mistake and used the same piece of clothing for two distinct characters.


It's a possibility they didn't plan on Tim being a big character until after the fact.

Except that Tim has been a big character since long before the appearance of the masked figure. He was the entirety of Entry 15 for goodness sake, and he also played a very prominent role in Entry 17 (remember the distorted shadow?).

Telos954 wrote:
On another point, in his current state, Masky seems like an amateur move on the part of the writer/PM. He just appears out of nowhere with no story, no connection to anything, and does shit that seems (In the pure context of the videos he appears in, not the world of speculation) totally meaningless. I mean, he really seems to be just pulled out of their ass because they needed filler to move things along.

Hopefully this changes, and Masky is more than just some creep in a mask doing 'random' things.

Except... there are examples to disprove every one of your points.

"He just appears out of nowhere with no story" --> It was blatantly said in the totheark reply prior to that that totheark would be at the house waiting for him. Logically, that would imply that the masked figure was also totheark. This is supported by Addition, which proves that whoever is making the totheark videos was also in the house with J in Entry 16, and the fact that J has directly called the masked figure "totheark" at least once in the series. If that's not beating-you-over-the-head with storytelling then I don't know what is.

This also applies to Tim being the masked figure and by extension totheark. If the masked man (hereafter referred to as tta) were wearing Tim's jacket in, say, Entry 18 and it wasn't until Entry 22 or 23 that we saw Tim in Tim's jacket, then I would be more willing to accept that maybe it was a directorial flaw. However, because Tim in Tim's jacket and totheark in Tim's jacket were revealed to us in adjacent Entries (19 and 20) that's a pretty blatant signal that the directors are saying "hey look at these two characters they're related."

Always assume that things shown are important (especially in a series like this where there is so much footage that isn't shown) unless there is a conflict that makes it clear they are not (such as J's failure to mention that the shape of the pill bottle changed, when such a shift should be obvious--that means that he clearly didn't notice the shift because it didn't happen; therefore, it's safe to assume that the switched pill bottles was an accident until a future video proves otherwise.)

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nyc_jester
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DavFlamerock wrote:
Always assume that things shown are important (especially in a series like this where there is so much footage that isn't shown) unless there is a conflict that makes it clear they are not (such as J's failure to mention that the shape of the pill bottle changed, when such a shift should be obvious--that means that he clearly didn't notice the shift because it didn't happen; therefore, it's safe to assume that the switched pill bottles was an accident until a future video proves otherwise.)


That's what can be so frustrating about ARG/CF's sometimes. It can be hard (especially for N00Bs like myself) to differentiate a plot point from what could be a continuity error on the part of amateur filmmakers on limited budgets.

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 		Clearly this is endgame.

Again.

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nyc_jester wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
Always assume that things shown are important (especially in a series like this where there is so much footage that isn't shown) unless there is a conflict that makes it clear they are not (such as J's failure to mention that the shape of the pill bottle changed, when such a shift should be obvious--that means that he clearly didn't notice the shift because it didn't happen; therefore, it's safe to assume that the switched pill bottles was an accident until a future video proves otherwise.)


That's what can be so frustrating about ARG/CF's sometimes. It can be hard (especially for N00Bs like myself) to differentiate a plot point from what could be a continuity error on the part of amateur filmmakers on limited budgets.

You would think it would actually make it easier on the viewers, but that's only if the producers handle it well (for example, if someone pointed it out to J that the bottles were different, they would write in an explanation for the difference and make it part of the story rather than trying to pretend it didn't exist.)

In my experience, trying to pretend things like the above don't exist are just leading to terrible problems.

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DLT
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 		I've been thinking about the illness displayed by Jay and Tim, and the relation to Slenderman and his stalking.

Think about it - Alex is the only person we know for sure that Slenderman is stalking, he is the only person who is present at all times that Slenderman appears during the Entries (the only time Slenderman is present without Alex is in Return, but the unknown identity of the cameraman/totheark/masked guy raises questions) and yet its only Jay and Tim who show any signs of illness, so it would seem that Slenderman is not making the people he is stalking ill, or Alex would certainly have been ill and yet, if I remember right, he hasn't been.

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morscata12
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 		The introduction of Masky is not surprising, since Masky is the physical form of TTA. This confrontation was hinted at since TTA's response to Entry 9. We were all expecting to see TTA at some point, so why should we be surprised that he's wearing a jacket and mask? If you have accepted TTA's inclusion into the series by Entry 9, you must also accept Masky's inclusion into the series at any point.

If you're upset about TTA's late arrival, keep in mind that most of the ancillary cast was introduced in Entry 9: Tim, Seth, and Sarah all made their first appearances here. (Anyone who thinks that TTA=Tim/Seth/Sarah should keep that fact in mind...I doubt it's a coincidence).

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gordon_ramsay
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 		So, yeah. both Mh and TTA logged in 4 hours ago. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

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Droshi
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gordon_ramsay wrote:
So, yeah. both Mh and TTA logged in 4 hours ago. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

Oh MAN, I hope Jay is totheark. At least partially. Seems pretty likely to me.

I gotta say, I was REALLY unsettled by the whole font matching thing. It's like this text that we have grown to trust and feel comforted by, as if Jay was along for the ride with us and unchanging in stability. Now we're seeing it in totheark videos and it was just twisted. Like we're seeing just how insane Jay has become and what little remains of his former sense of rationality and sanity.

I also realized that not just the "Return to us" font was the same, but all of the fonts were. Just bigger/smaller.

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