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xxxblindxxx
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DLT wrote:
I've been thinking about the illness displayed by Jay and Tim, and the relation to Slenderman and his stalking.

Think about it - Alex is the only person we know for sure that Slenderman is stalking, he is the only person who is present at all times that Slenderman appears during the Entries (the only time Slenderman is present without Alex is in Return, but the unknown identity of the cameraman/totheark/masked guy raises questions) and yet its only Jay and Tim who show any signs of illness, so it would seem that Slenderman is not making the people he is stalking ill, or Alex would certainly have been ill and yet, if I remember right, he hasn't been.


i actually completely agree with this. alex has never shown signs of coughing as extreme as J and masky. that could mean that SM is protecting alex and i cant come up with something coherent after that

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I like J's latest twitter update.

"I don't like the fact that it says "us" in the video."


Totheark is like soylent green J. He's people.
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Droshi wrote:
gordon_ramsay wrote:
So, yeah. both Mh and TTA logged in 4 hours ago. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

Oh MAN, I hope Jay is totheark. At least partially. Seems pretty likely to me.


Oh, come on. OOG, he's probably the owner of both accounts. So not a coincidence per se, but not really meaningful Wink

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Wow, okay. I was on this website a while back, for the whole Cloverfield deal, never registered but lurked for almost the duration, really enjoyed it. Jumping around the internet earlier led me back to the site, and I figured I'd hop around for a minute and see what was going on, and I stumbled onto Marble Hornets. HOLY F*#&! I cannot even begin to explain this, I have spent the last ten hours, I have read the ENTIRE Trailhead from start to finish, 340 some pages, so that I could get completely caught up and hop into the discussion. It is now 7:20 am here, I basically have had to scotch tape my eyes open and I don't care one bit. This is some sort of amazing! And if the creators of Marble Hornets ever peruse this forum, let me say congratulations! More than once through the course of these videos, you have made a 21 year old college guy full of piss and vinegar shake in his boots. I'm not afraid to turn the light off, but I certainly prefer it on HAHA!

I must preface all of this by saying I have little to no expertise, be it in A/V analysis, fancy code deciphering or otherwise, so anyone holding out any hopes that I will crack this thing open, go ahead and stow those away. But, I do feel like I've got a sharp mind for the theoretical part of this, and I was able to forecast a couple of the things that went on over the course of this so far. I will be on here as frequently as possible, trying to contribute any insights that I can, and I hope that I can help the group here in some way, shape or form. I know it seems to be frowned upon here, but I am going to double post, I wanted to introduce myself to everyone, and then in this next one I will theorize a little. Look forward to getting to know you guys and figuring out some of this nonsense!

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Okay, I don't have all that much I feel like mentioning, for those of you that have been participating from the start, you'd be stunned by how much information is in that 340 pages. But, there are a couple things I'd like to touch on.

1. Sarah

As it is pretty clear (and was mentioned a few times) this is not a high budget thing, they need to make due with what they have. To me, this means that there are NO minor characters here. Considering that the camera man, whom we can now safely call Seth, is confirmed to be an essential part of this story, literally every character in every video across the entire hour or so of footage is important right now...except Sarah. This leads me to believe one of two things. Either a) We aren't quite as far along in this story as we think. I'm fairly certain we're closer to the end than the beginning, but there could still be some substantial plot to be uncovered. Or b) She is already involved in ways that we have yet to decipher. I know that there was some theory that she was in the house during the attack video aka the introduction of EFG/Masky. (Forgive me for not knowing entry numbers, I've watched the entire epic over the last night, it's running together.) I was in that camp at the time but it appears to be mostly if not entirely debunked by now. It just doesn't seem to fall in line with the rest of the series that a single character would mean nothing to the story. Being that she is the only character we don't know anything about, I think we need to dig deeper there, maybe someone PM J on YouTube and see if he knows anything about her whereabouts.

2. J has never CONCLUSIVELY captured Slender Man on film.

I know every video that comes out, someone insists that some tree or shadow is Slender Man. However, the only times he has been clearly and distinctly on video so far is when Alex has been shooting, with the exception being The Return I believe, the one that is an unknown filmer, presumably but not 100% necessarily Masky, shooting footage of a comatose J, followed by Slender Man walking towards the camera. Based on that pretty clear pattern, what's to say that Alex isn't shooting that video as well, which would in turn probably make him Masky. Early in the trailhead, there was a long held theory that Alex was the only one that could see Slender Man. With SM's ability to manipulate electronic devices, is it not then in turn possible, that instead of being the only one able to SEE Slender Man, Alex is the only one able to capture him on video? There were many contextual clues that SM was around during videos that J shot, why has he failed to capture him yet?

I personally don't have an answer or even a guess as to these two points, short of what I've postulated above, but it's just a pair of thinking points to get everyone's minds working, maybe trigger something from someone that hasn't been thought up yet, or at the least, get me involved in some discussion, even if it involves people shattering my theories and rebuking everything I've said. So, what do you all think?

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Thermal Boners wrote:
2. J has never CONCLUSIVELY captured Slender Man on film.

I know every video that comes out, someone insists that some tree or shadow is Slender Man. However, the only times he has been clearly and distinctly on video so far is when Alex has been shooting, with the exception being The Return I believe, the one that is an unknown filmer, presumably but not 100% necessarily Masky, shooting footage of a comatose J, followed by Slender Man walking towards the camera. Based on that pretty clear pattern, what's to say that Alex isn't shooting that video as well, which would in turn probably make him Masky. Early in the trailhead, there was a long held theory that Alex was the only one that could see Slender Man. With SM's ability to manipulate electronic devices, is it not then in turn possible, that instead of being the only one able to SEE Slender Man, Alex is the only one able to capture him on video? There were many contextual clues that SM was around during videos that J shot, why has he failed to capture him yet?


Ok, here's the problem with that:

In one of the earlier alex entries it shows slender man just sort of standing there in the open looking at the cast and i believe it is sarah that says something along the lines of "what is he doing" so there is atleast one other person who can see him.

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MadeOfWood wrote:
Thermal Boners wrote:
2. J has never CONCLUSIVELY captured Slender Man on film.

I know every video that comes out, someone insists that some tree or shadow is Slender Man. However, the only times he has been clearly and distinctly on video so far is when Alex has been shooting, with the exception being The Return I believe, the one that is an unknown filmer, presumably but not 100% necessarily Masky, shooting footage of a comatose J, followed by Slender Man walking towards the camera. Based on that pretty clear pattern, what's to say that Alex isn't shooting that video as well, which would in turn probably make him Masky. Early in the trailhead, there was a long held theory that Alex was the only one that could see Slender Man. With SM's ability to manipulate electronic devices, is it not then in turn possible, that instead of being the only one able to SEE Slender Man, Alex is the only one able to capture him on video? There were many contextual clues that SM was around during videos that J shot, why has he failed to capture him yet?


Ok, here's the problem with that:

In one of the earlier alex entries it shows slender man just sort of standing there in the open looking at the cast and i believe it is sarah that says something along the lines of "what is he doing" so there is atleast one other person who can see him.


Right, I definitely understand that others are able to see him, that's fairly clear now. What I am trying to say is why has he only been spotted on Alex's video equipment. It's a safe bet that Alex didn't give J his camera along with the tapes, J is using his own camera. Not that I am speculating the missing link in 6 months of this story is a Sony HandiCam, but perhaps there is a reason he has only shown up in videos shot by Alex's equipment, almost as if he was trying to let Alex document him, but not J.

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Thermal Boners wrote:
MadeOfWood wrote:
Thermal Boners wrote:
2. J has never CONCLUSIVELY captured Slender Man on film.

I know every video that comes out, someone insists that some tree or shadow is Slender Man. However, the only times he has been clearly and distinctly on video so far is when Alex has been shooting, with the exception being The Return I believe, the one that is an unknown filmer, presumably but not 100% necessarily Masky, shooting footage of a comatose J, followed by Slender Man walking towards the camera. Based on that pretty clear pattern, what's to say that Alex isn't shooting that video as well, which would in turn probably make him Masky. Early in the trailhead, there was a long held theory that Alex was the only one that could see Slender Man. With SM's ability to manipulate electronic devices, is it not then in turn possible, that instead of being the only one able to SEE Slender Man, Alex is the only one able to capture him on video? There were many contextual clues that SM was around during videos that J shot, why has he failed to capture him yet?


Ok, here's the problem with that:

In one of the earlier alex entries it shows slender man just sort of standing there in the open looking at the cast and i believe it is sarah that says something along the lines of "what is he doing" so there is atleast one other person who can see him.


Right, I definitely understand that others are able to see him, that's fairly clear now. What I am trying to say is why has he only been spotted on Alex's video equipment. It's a safe bet that Alex didn't give J his camera along with the tapes, J is using his own camera. Not that I am speculating the missing link in 6 months of this story is a Sony HandiCam, but perhaps there is a reason he has only shown up in videos shot by Alex's equipment, almost as if he was trying to let Alex document him, but not J.


I'm severely doubting the concept that TSM was allowing Alex to capture him on video but not J or that it was something that had to do with the camera. I feel like TSM is bothering with him so much because he's still after Alex for some reason or another.

I also feel like masky is a lot like Snape from the Harry Potter series in which during the whole thing you're getting mixed messages about who he is truly alligned to, and in the end you never truly find out.

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I feel you on that, it was just a thought. I still think it may be worth note that the Slender Man has not revealed himself to J since the beginning of his torment, even though he is clearly still around. My theory about the camera was just that, a theory, but you've made some great points that pretty much put that idea to rest. Now the question becomes, if not for that reason, why hasn't J filmed SM yet.

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My Succint thoughts

My Summary of what may be indisputable and then my conclusions.

TTA is using Seth's camera (night vision feature)
Seth and his camera are "gone" (Alex woke up with only the tape)

The Masked Guy seems to have Tim's jacket on. Tim has pills for some affliction, J found some pills, Masky visits J's room. Pills are gone.

The "House" is Brian's - Alex and J are waiting for Tim at what Alex says is Brian's house. When Tim arrives and has his coughing fit, camera catches him in the hallway shown in J's other entries.

Therefore:

Seth is TTA?
Masky is Tim?
At some point Alex was staying at "Brian's house" in the room at the top of the stairs next to the Red Shelving Unit.

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Thermal Boners wrote:
I feel you on that, it was just a thought. I still think it may be worth note that the Slender Man has not revealed himself to J since the beginning of his torment, even though he is clearly still around. My theory about the camera was just that, a theory, but you've made some great points that pretty much put that idea to rest. Now the question becomes, if not for that reason, why hasn't J filmed SM yet.


I like your theory, so I'm going to run with it for a while. J experiences heavy distortion (on his camera and text messages) near the tower (Entry 21), yet has never filmed SM. Seth and Alex were chasing SM, yet Seth's camera never caught a glimpse of him either (Entry 22). Yet when Alex chases SM, he is easily caught on tape like he's a clumsy monster (especially in Entry 4). TTA has filmed SM once, but we don't know what camera he used then.

Alex owns two cameras, and has filmed SM on both. We know he's filmed SM on his personal handheld, and it seems possible that he used his professional camera to film Entry 13. If there's something unusual about a camera that captures SM, then it would have to be a property of both cameras.

The ability to film SM seems to correlate with the belief that you can find SM. Alex and TTA have both successfully filmed SM, and were both in a mental state where they seem to be calling him out. J does not seem to be in this state, and he has not yet filmed SM. This doesn't prove that their state of mind brings SM to them - they may be doing something to their cameras while in that state of mind to properly film SM.

Can you see SM without a camera? Alex and his dog did (Entry 2). Sarah *may* have (Entry 13), but it's iffy from the dialog. "What's he doing" may be about Alex if she didn't see SM. Alex walking off-set yelling to himself would make me ask that exact same question in that same tone. However, "Don't worry, he'll move" makes me think that someone saw SM and pointed him out to Alex. If this is the case, then Alex and that person both saw SM without a camera. There is one instance where SM is standing in plain sight (of the camera) and no one seems to acknowledge his presence (Entry 17). Yet everyone is acting weird in this entry (and in the similar Entry 20), so it's hard to accept their actions as what they would do normally.

I am certain that J's lack of run-ins with SM is an intentional plot point by the PM - why else would he start encountering Masky - however, I don't know if it's merely because J is not encountering SM or because his camera is not picking it up...or both. And, if SM was out of the picture until Return, and is now strictly in The House, it makes sense that J would not have run into him yet.

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Is she though?

MadeOfWood wrote:
Ok, here's the problem with that:

In one of the earlier alex entries it shows slender man just sort of standing there in the open looking at the cast and i believe it is sarah that says something along the lines of "what is he doing" so there is atleast one other person who can see him.


See, I've always thought that Sarah was referring to Alex. As in, "Who the Hell is Alex talking to?" I've always held the belief that he's the only one that sees Slendy in that vid.

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It's really hard to say, cause they could simply be talking about Alex with their statements. The only one I don't get is "I hope he isn't angry with us..." as it seems out of place to say that when Alex seem's pretty chill.

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Hunter119 wrote:
It's really hard to say, cause they could simply be talking about Alex with their statements. The only one I don't get is "I hope he isn't angry with us..." as it seems out of place to say that when Alex seem's pretty chill.

Isn't Alex the one who says that line? I thought it was him referring to Slenderman possibly being angry at them for shooting there (obviously thinking it was some random guy, not a menacing demon).

I'm still standing by the theory that you can see Slenderman with your own eyes but you never remember it, and that it isn't just Alex who could see him. He was just the only one who ever remembered seeing Slendy because he had it on tape to see later (and thus started constantly filming himself).

Edit: Just rewatched Entry 12 and Brian appears to say "Who... is that?" before Alex starts to approach Slendy.

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Re: Is she though?

nyc_jester wrote:
MadeOfWood wrote:
Ok, here's the problem with that:

In one of the earlier alex entries it shows slender man just sort of standing there in the open looking at the cast and i believe it is sarah that says something along the lines of "what is he doing" so there is atleast one other person who can see him.


See, I've always thought that Sarah was referring to Alex. As in, "Who the Hell is Alex talking to?" I've always held the belief that he's the only one that sees Slendy in that vid.


My problem with that is that Alex is not the one operating the camera, But the camera turns and settles on TSM. That is either a huge coincidence or the operator could see him too.

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