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DLT
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 		So, one thing has been playing on my mind after Entry #23, though it counts for others too... Slenderman has gotten to Alex before, and now he got Jay to a point where he couldn't escape either, he had them... why did he leave them alive? In fact, even unharmed, atleast physically? He could have killed them easily based on all we know of Slenderman.

I don't have any real theories, but its a question worth asking.

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MaxDoverCoss
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Falafel wrote:
I don't know if I can support any theory that involves Slender Man being "nice" or bargained with (although Masky seems like he is in cahoots with SM). I think that the creators are pretty loyal to the original idea of Slender Man being a force of sheer terror - not some weird anti-hero.


Well like I said a bit further down, I think it's more a matter of Masky being more "evil" then Slendy is right now. Personally, I don't think Slendy is a good guy either- But what I do think is that when it comes to Jay, Masky is a bigger threat.

Ever hear the saying "You don't have to be faster than the bear, but just faster than the other guy running from the bear"? Well, if Selndy is that bear, then Tim/TTA/Masky is the guy trying to trip Jay.

At the end of the day though, I still think Slendy will kill Jay as number 5.

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 		It could be something to do with Slendy 'playing with his food', as it were. Cats bat mice around for a long time before they finally kill and eat them. Could be that Slendy is toying with Jay in the same way.

Slendy's body language says 'intrigued' to me whenever we see him. Discounting the trance-like gliding of his walk, he seems like a mixture of ponderous and curious, like something very big and very old inspecting something very new and very jittery. Like he knows that he could break the focus of his curiosity very easily and he doesn't really want that...

Of course, that's all extrapolation and watching body movements, which can't really be nailed as solid facts. I just get the feeling that Slendy is more curious than malevolent at this point, though that could always change. Just because you don't see the claws doesn't mean they're not there.

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Dray wrote:
It could be something to do with Slendy 'playing with his food', as it were. Cats bat mice around for a long time before they finally kill and eat them. Could be that Slendy is toying with Jay in the same way.

Slendy's body language says 'intrigued' to me whenever we see him. Discounting the trance-like gliding of his walk, he seems like a mixture of ponderous and curious, like something very big and very old inspecting something very new and very jittery. Like he knows that he could break the focus of his curiosity very easily and he doesn't really want that...

Of course, that's all extrapolation and watching body movements, which can't really be nailed as solid facts. I just get the feeling that Slendy is more curious than malevolent at this point, though that could always change. Just because you don't see the claws doesn't mean they're not there.


Almost like an old cat with a little kitten. The old cat is merely observing and wondering about the young kitten at first. But if the little jittery kitten gets out of line, the old cat will move from merely watching curiously to unsheathing its claws and attacking.

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raelyn wrote:
Dray wrote:
It could be something to do with Slendy 'playing with his food', as it were. Cats bat mice around for a long time before they finally kill and eat them. Could be that Slendy is toying with Jay in the same way.

Slendy's body language says 'intrigued' to me whenever we see him. Discounting the trance-like gliding of his walk, he seems like a mixture of ponderous and curious, like something very big and very old inspecting something very new and very jittery. Like he knows that he could break the focus of his curiosity very easily and he doesn't really want that...

Of course, that's all extrapolation and watching body movements, which can't really be nailed as solid facts. I just get the feeling that Slendy is more curious than malevolent at this point, though that could always change. Just because you don't see the claws doesn't mean they're not there.


Almost like an old cat with a little kitten. The old cat is merely observing and wondering about the young kitten at first. But if the little jittery kitten gets out of line, the old cat will move from merely watching curiously to unsheathing its claws and attacking.


Or it could just be a bitchy old cat in the first place *shrug*

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MaxDoverCoss wrote:
So just throwing an idea out here... But hasn't Slendy only shown up around Jay when Masky was SOMEHOW involved? Now let me back myself up a bit here-

The first time we saw Slendy and Jay together was in Return, which we can more than likely agree had to do with Masky taking Jay from his room, correct? Now this time that Jay finally took notice of Slendy himself obviously took place after Masky and him had a little run in earlier in the house.

Now, doesn't it seem like Masky and TTA are trying to keep Jay involved? I mean, Jay would have been done by now without them leading him along- as in the tape that gave us entry 22. Masky and TTA WANT Jay involved.

Now let's just say that the two are the same person. Isn't it possible that Masky/TTA are using Jay to PROTECT themselves from Slendy?

What if Slendy is actually a good guy, and Masky/TTA is his target? Could Jay just be some type of distraction they are trying to use?

Now to further my idea a bit, maybe Slendy isn't good after all. Maybe everyone involved in Marble Hornets is a target?

Let's say that Alex was first. Now that Alex seems to be gone, maybe he's now going after who's next on the list- Tim who most of us believe to be Masky!

If all of them are targeted, it's possible that Alex, Sarah and Seth have all been taken down. If only Tim and Jay are left, what if Tim is just trying to get Slendy to go after Jay first?

Why else would he ignore him in the hallway like in RETURN? Just think about it this way- Imagine if the ending of Marble Hornets had Slendy killing Masky/TTA/Tim, and then turning right around and killing Jay.

I think my theory has a pretty good reason for-
1: Why Alex, Seth and Sarah are missing- (They were numbers 1/2/3, and have been killed)
2: Why Tim is still alive AND looks like Masky- (He's number 4, the active target of Slendy)
3: Why TTA/Masky are keeping Jay involved- (To try and buy themselves some time-)
4: Why Slendy is leaving Jay alone- (He's not going to attack number 5 before number 4 is alive)

That's my idea at least. Tim is trying all that he can to get Slendy after Jay, but it isn't working, which may be why he is getting more desperate. Let's face it, if watching those tapes cursed you, then why does Slendy only show up around Masky?

Please, if you have any problems or feed back on my idea- or see any loopholes, point them out~ I can't make a stronger case without knowing my weak points here! : D


I think someone's been watching too much Final Destination. Also, if Slendy is killing people, that makes him a bad guy. A hero dies to save another, a villain kills to save himself. You can't have it both ways. He'd have to be killing these film students to save the world, which is a bit ridiculous. Your theory definitely makes more sense with him as a bad guy.

MaxDoverCoss wrote:
Falafel wrote:
I don't know if I can support any theory that involves Slender Man being "nice" or bargained with (although Masky seems like he is in cahoots with SM). I think that the creators are pretty loyal to the original idea of Slender Man being a force of sheer terror - not some weird anti-hero.


Well like I said a bit further down, I think it's more a matter of Masky being more "evil" then Slendy is right now. Personally, I don't think Slendy is a good guy either- But what I do think is that when it comes to Jay, Masky is a bigger threat.

Ever hear the saying "You don't have to be faster than the bear, but just faster than the other guy running from the bear"? Well, if Selndy is that bear, then Tim/TTA/Masky is the guy trying to trip Jay.

At the end of the day though, I still think Slendy will kill Jay as number 5.


After his little attack in Entry #18, Masky hasn't been entirely malicious. He chilled in Jay's bedroom for a while, and watched him curiously as he filmed the sink, and he could have attacked Jay at any time during these Entries.

I think Jay's biggest threat right now is Slender Man, because he's gotten his attention. I think it's highly likely that next we'll get another Entry or totheark Response showing Slender Man going after Jay.

Also, I think Alex is the last person who could be Masky, because he wears glasses (Masky doesn't), and I think he'd be the last person to attack Jay.

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 		I do not think Masky and SM are in league togather or if they are SM gave the pills to whoever Masky actually is. If SM isn't working with Masky, then he is Seth (maybe?) who just took those pills and went insane. Or maybe he is keeping an eye/trying to catch Masky before he does something bad. (IE when Masky got into Jay's house)

I think that TTA's video Admission was not to get into the house, it was to get in the area that Alex and Seth were in, in entry 21. As I stated before, I believe that the hole that was filmed when Jay goes to the red tower has some significence to the location of this basement or what ever you want to call it.

I also don't know if they are portraying SM as a antangonist or a protangist. I think he obviously wanted to do something to Jay face to face, instead of Jay sitting in the corner dramatized like he was in TTA's response.

*Sorry for my unorganized rambling.*

Since I'm fairly new here and haven't read everything, have you guys come to a decision to who TTA is? My theory is ToTheAlexR.Kralie ( as I've seen some other peoples theory who said that. Maybe he is trying to lead Jay back to Alex?

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 		It would make some kind of sense that the pills were seizure medication.

In that case no wonder Masky made a trip to Jay's place. He probably needed them.

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RedBlade2021
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Dray wrote:
It would make some kind of sense that the pills were seizure medication.

In that case no wonder Masky made a trip to Jay's place. He probably needed them.


Actually, this makes sense. Maybe whoever totheark is followed Masky there, and that's why J disappeared for a short time. Or Slendy could have followed. But the way Masky was watching J made it seem like he was guarding him. Obviously, the camera was focused on the opposite wall of where the entrance to J's sleep area is. It seems like Masky was watching that way in case anyone came. I'm thinking this, because my cat does this to me all the time. He will sit with his back to me watching the nearest entryway leading to where ever I am.
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 		Masky is pretty obviously watching Jay in 19.

Come to think of it, Masky in 19 has quite dark hair that falls over his mask. Tim has quite dark hair that falls over his face the same way in 17. Brian's hair is too short to hang that way, and besides, is lighter than Tim's hair. Masky's earlobe in his closeup in 19 is very similarly shaped to Tim's in 17. Brian's earlobe (in 7) is much smaller, and seems to be more closely attached to the side of his jaw. Alex's hair in 20 is too long, it probably wouldn't hang the same way as Tim's.

Besides the fact that Masky is wearing the same jacket as Tim, I think there are some more likely features to pinpoint masky (at least in Episode 19) as Tim. In 18, despite the different coat, there's still the dark hair and maybe even a sideburn like Tim has. (Then again, Masky in 18 almost seems to be wearing the same clothing as Jay from 23!! The black over-shirt and jeans, I mean. I can't get a good shot of Masky's boots in 18 to see if they're the same tan-colour as Jay's shoes from 23.) In 23, Masky appears to be wearing Tim's jacket again, though.

Huh.

Anyways, I'm thinking that Masky is either Tim, or Jay, or both of them somehow. O_o

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Dray wrote:
Anyways, I'm thinking that Masky is either Tim, or Jay, or both of them somehow. O_o


How could Masky be Jay? The only times Masky has ever been filmed Jay was also present.

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 		Not to mention Brian is short and big, whereas Tim is average sized, just like Masky.

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Not to mention Brian is short and big, whereas Tim is average sized, just like Masky.


Between the hair color, sideburns, the pills, and the jacket, I think its pretty clear Tim is Masky.

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 		You know, even when the series is said and done and we've got our resolution, I bet we'll be left with a shitload of question. Like the significance of a lot of the hints and possibly trivial details we all debate.
I really hope after it's over that we can get some sort of dvd with commentary or something.

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 		oh and, not sure if it's significant or not, but:
Quote:
What to do when voters change their minds at the last moment or accidentally fill in the wrong oval? In such a case, the voters are supposed to ask for a new clean ballot. But the board presumes that some voters who change their minds simply put an "X" through the blacked-out oval. Even if the voter doesn't blacken an oval for another candidate, an "X" through an oval is interpreted as the voter changing his mind. There is a claimed exception to this rule: if all the votes for each candidate that a voter supports are simultaneously marked by both filling in the oval and an "X," voters are assumed to support those candidates.

The primary problem isn't the rules. The real problem is the lack of consistency. Take some of the ballots that only marked the oval for Coleman, but where the oval is also marked through with an "X." The Canvassing Board determined that those marks meant those voters intended to support "other/no one."

- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470892,00.html

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