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 		Email from Male Carrla
trailhead or spam?
Over the course of the last few days I've received emails from someone calling themselves Male Carrla. So far, attempts to decipher the messages has been difficult. I'm posting this from the Spam or Trailhead thread.

---July 18th---

Quote:

From: Male Carrla (mailcarrierSPLATymail.com)
Sent: Sun 7/18/10 1:43 PM
To: [myemailadress]

13 7087 4380 151 30021 11 35 127171 1673 11 78596 395 7087 4380 48575 666
13
872643 7087 127171 244 11 206767 58 48575 7087 1673 206767 58 35 2634 58 23 7087 35 58 333 12 872643 4380 7087 332938 872643 7087 127171 11 30021 58 11467 30021 7087 12 11 12 1673 872643 332938
7087 4380 35 58 30021 395 4380 151 111 332938 78596 93 332938 11 48575 2634 58 11467 7087 395 4380 78596 7087 93 11 1673 1673 2634 395 48575 161 111 332938 58 1673 1673 2707 872643 93 30021 395
58 4380 35 666 244 58 30021 58 222 48575 2634 58 4100 7087 4380 58 23 7087 1673 35 3580 127171 2634 333
2634 58 30021 58 395 48575 4380 222 78596 7087 4380 58 666
872643 7087 127171 639 127171 4100 332938 11 4100 58 35 41 7087 35 1034 4380 7087 332938 48575 244 7087 332938 1673 7087 4380 151 7087 4380 11 11467 127171 1412348 1412348 1673 58 93 7087 30021 4380 7087 30021 58 11
48575 7087 4380.
15 244 7087 11467 58 872643 7087 127171 58 4380 639 7087 872643 58 35 78596 244 395 48575 332938 11 48575 78596 58 7087 93 78596 395 2707 58. 8 58 23 11 127171 48575 58 15 35 395 35 333
30 7087 127171 30021 222 48575 2560 30021 127171 1673 872643 666
2634 58 41 7087 1673 35 58 4380 5 11467 11467 1673 58 1540 7087 23 395 58 78596 872643



I thought it might be ARGish but also skeptical of the email adress. Thought it could be junk.

I just got a PM from shrtyscott3 asking why I forwarded him this email. I told him I did not. It turns out he was blind copied on it. So did anyone else receive it? The numbers seem random. I've replied with the standard "Escuse me?" but haven't heard back yet.

---July 19th ---

Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
In case anyone wants to take it further, Here's are counts for each string, sorted by frequency:
Code:
String  Count
7087    30
58      30
4380    17
1673    13
35      12
11      12
48575   12
30021   11
127171  11
872643  10
395     10
332938   9
78596    8
2634     7
11467    6
93       5
244      5
666      4
23       4
333      3
4100     3
12       3
151      3
222      3
111      2
15       2
13       2
1412348  2
206767   2
.        2
2707     2
41       2
639      2
161      1
1540     1
2560     1
3580     1
5        1
8        1
1034     1
30       1


--- July 20th ----

Got a reply:

Quote:

SHRTBRST: UR R CLSR 2 THE TRUTH THN U THINK U R.



Still Dunno

I sent another reply.

--- July 21st ---

This was the latest reply:

Quote:
5 47575 0 7087 93 0 4380 7078 2610 0 395 0 11 291 0 2634 58 0 189 58 11 35


So if this is a game they're making it pretty hard to figure out where to start. The latest reply has some of the same numbers but without a key, its not easy going.

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 		I signed up for the spam too sent in an email too.

me wrote:
Subject: Don't go postal
Body: Did you lose my mail?


mailcarrier wrote:
2707 5 395 1673 21 58 189 395 58 206767 10 30021 58 21


* AzureWolf * contemplates going postal....
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mailcarrier wrote:
2707 5 395 1673 21 58 189 395 58 206767 10 30021 58 21


I had a thought that there might be a cipher using prime factors of the numbers, but breaking them down didn't really help. If the messages are in TXTMSGSPK, we may be doomed.

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 		Well there is a zero, so I don't think it's a phone keypad.

And there are THREE single number "words": 0, 5 and 8. That makes little sense.

None of these have subject lines? Can you post (or send me if you're paranoid) full headers?
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catherwood wrote:
If the messages are in TXTMSGSPK, we may be doomed.

My thought exactly.

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 		The only thing that bothers me with it being a substitution cipher is the fact there would be doubling up of numbers for any letter after the 10th. If it's a very basic cipher that is.

As for the three single letter words I can only think of three unless you count text speak. I, A and O (As in O Romeo). However most people don't use O like that. If you go to text speak we have: I, A, U, and R. Then you have to consider the fact that any letter can be a single letter word when referring to that letter. IE: You spell Happy with a H.

Ok I'm over thinking this and not helping sorry.

Edit for spelling.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Well there is a zero, so I don't think it's a phone keypad.

And there are THREE single number "words": 0, 5 and 8. That makes little sense.

None of these have subject lines? Can you post (or send me if you're paranoid) full headers?


None of the emails I've receive have had a subject, including the one I just got.

I was in response to my reply:

me wrote:

Ive been close to the truth before. it is rarely pretty. why dnt u enlighten me.


No body in the email just this attachment.
gas.jpg
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Unfortunately, this file is no longer in our archives.

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 		Ok I see Golden Apple Society and all I can think of is Discordians.

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 		Yep, I thought of that too. Lots of number 5's also.
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 		It made me think of golden ratio/fibonacci sequnence for some reason.

The numbers aren't fibonacci numbers, though nor do they seem to correspond to phi.

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 		The only reference I can find to "Golden Apple Society" (that exact search phrase) is a hospital fund raising group. Doubt that's it unless they are really getting into their fund raising!

However there are a lot of Golden Apple things out there. Maybe it's a Stenography or however it's called.

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 		http://www.amazon.com/Principia-Discordia-Omar-Khayyam-Ravenhurst/dp/096265342X

Quote:
The Principia itself could be read as a collage-like satire of conventional religions and their sacred texts. The book is a merry blend of jokes, puns, satiric narratives, parodic songs and rituals, word games, illustrations, and secret ciphers. Among the gems in the book are the Law of Fives, an explanation of the Discordian calendar, and information about the Bavarian Illuminati ("The World's Oldest And Most Successful Conspiracy").


EDIT: Haven't read or tried this yet but could be something: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/78.php
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Tenshi Akui wrote:

Maybe it's a Stenography or however it's called.


ugh...I've never really familarized myself with stegdect before. I know it's helpful in knowing if steganography is used. I hope not. It's been hard enough getting info to this point. We'd need a password if it's steg'd

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 		I read the Principa Discordia ages ago, but don't have a copy any more. It's quite a funny book to be honest.

As to stego, I have only once been able to detect one, and it was by total luck. Is anyone familer with it enough to give it a whack? I would suggest trying the password 23 as if I remember that was something in the Principa.

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 		I don't know anything about everquest but did find this with a google search.

http://everquest2.com/guild/1681202/

Wouldn't be the first time a MMORPG was used for an ARG.

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