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Two2teps
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Chronology of Entries/Replies
Chronological order of released videos.

I was reading the posts in the trialhead a few replies back and I think figuring out the chronological order of the entry videos would help make things clearer. Here's my proposed time line.

#1) Entry 5
Still early on and Alex is scouting, it also looks to me like some of the other footage we seen was in this same park, such as the gazebo. We glimpse SM in the distance but he goes unnoticed or at least uncommented upon.

#2) Entry 12
I'm putting this one first as Alex has no fear or reaction to SM other then him being some guy on the set. This is also the last time we seem him act nonchalantly about SM.

#3) Entry 2
Alex comments that he was walking his dog by the set of MH implying (to me) that they have started filming or at least picked the location. He also describes the guy as strange but is still curious enough to go looking for him where he was spotted.

#3a) Entry 4
He seems to be looking for SM here, it could be a continuation of his above search.

#4) Entry 7
Alex's reaction to seeing SM here makes be believe this is where the video fits. He freaks a bit but no more than someone who things they're being stalked. The behavior is still what I would consider normal for someone seeing the same guy hanging around set for a 3rd time in a row, and at a different location then the other two. Up until he spots him he seems rather normal and non perturbed.

#5) Entry 13
Alex and J are doing further scouting and Alex comes across Sm face to face. I think it's at this point Alex goes off the deep end as he would have been only a few feet from SM and would have seem him very clearly and very closely. I think J has something to answer for here as well. If Alex just came face to face with the SM he would have been visibly shaken, would J not have noticed this when he came back with the battery?

#6) Entries 6 and 1
Can't say which is first I prefer 6 then 1 as it seems like hes further from the house in 6 then in 1. I think after the close confrontation in Entry 13 SM was able to track him back to his house.

3, 8-10 fit in here some where I can't figure out how.


#7) Entries 11 and 14
I'm thinking these videos are of the same night or two nights very close together. it could also be argued that Entries 1 and 6 could fit in here as well. Thought I'd have a hard time going to bed if I know SM was on my porch.

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I like your timeline, those were some interesting points you brought up. The only thing really that could give it more merit is if you find places for those other four videos.

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They're tricky I think entry 3 is a montage so it's between entry 7 where he first spots him and entry 11 when we first spot SM in the house.

Other rough outlines:
*Entry 8 predates 11, because of the creation and posting of the drawings.
*Entry 9 falls after 7, as judged by his agitated state.
*Entry 10 could connect to 4 but it seems odd he'd go from hunting to running. He could be trying to confront him after his appearance in Entry 7 and gets an unwelcome eye full.

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I would put Entry #4 as a bit later on. Probably around 1 and 6. If I encountered a strange guy on the road, but didn't think much more of it, I wouldn't go around looking for him.

Also, I'd put 6 after 1. J states in the intro to #6 that it is at the beginning of a tape, and 1 is at the end, and that he thinks 6 is the continuation of 1. I think that's his way of saying that 6 follows 1, while staying in game.

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Since Entry 3 is a montage I think we should look at the bits separately:

3a) Alex rustling with paper, most likely drawing. Film skips so it could be the night slenderman showed up at his house. Or just that he had used the camera so much by then it was going wonky.

3b) clip of the woods at sunset/rise

3c) Alex buying tapes. The black shoes seem to be the ones he always wears for the series. Not sure if that's relevant or not, just thought I'd point it out.

3d) Alex sitting (at the computer? reading?) night time

3e) searching the forest daytime

3f) driving at night

3g) daytime, same room as d looking out window nervously

Now at the beginning of this J says he took these from roughly 12 tapes. But there are only 7 clips?

EDIT: Oh, and in entry 4 Alex seems to be running towards slenderman so it would seem he is not afraid of him yet. Could Entry 10 be a continuation of 4? Both are nighttime chases...

Also, for 13 why would he be location scouting so late in the filming? I always kind of thought 13 might be a continuation of 5, when we know J was with Alex.

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I'd have to say Entry 1 comes before Entry 6, since Alex is in an upstairs area in Entry 1, which ends with him downstairs, and in Entry 6, he starts off downstairs, with SM being pressed against a window as he walks by.

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I quite like Two's chronology, but personally I'd switch a couple things around.

1: Entry 5

Obviously, the characters are location scouting, and nothing really seems amiss at all. (I didn't see SM in that video, but I'll take your word that he was there.)

2: Entry 2

Alex notices a strange guy on the side of the road, probably just standing there and staring. Since it is dark, he can't see much of anything other than "strange man's" movement, or perhaps lack thereof, so he disregards it.

3: Entry 12

He actually sees the strange dude out in the daylight. He's some distance away, so Alex can't yet see what's so very odd about him quite clearly. This may be just before he realises who SM is.

The reason I put this after Entry 2 is because I can't see SM going away when Alex tells him to, leading him to just assume it was some guy who briefly got in the way, and letting him treat Entry 11 as, again, something separate. Plus, as you know, "there was more". I'm guessing that Entry 12 was the one where he finally begins to realise how strange this dude is after the tape is cut.

4: Entry 4

From a diagram I saw in the Trailhead, it does, to all intents, look like Alex is actually looking for SM. Here, I suspect he's curious as any good film student, and wants to capture the strangeness on his favorite medium.

5: Entry 13

Perhaps the final stage of location scouting, he could either be running toward or away from SM. I've heard supporters of both theories. Personally, I'm on the away opinion, but either way, it's kind of obvious that Alex is getting more frantic.

6: Entry 7

Not quite as frantic as he was later, but Alex does now begin to seem quite disturbed here.

7: Entry 1, Entry 6

Things are getting scary now. SM's stalking Alex to his house.

8: Entry 10

I can see this being a little while after 1 and 6, perhaps Alex trying to flee from SM into the woods.

9: Entry 8

More drawings connect it to what he was doing in 3.

10: Entry 9

Alex is being very sharp with everybody, and now others are really getting to notice his odd behavior.

11: Entry 11, Entry 14

Beyond just gong to Alex's house, SM has begun to go in Alex's house.

12: Entry 15

Okay, this is a given.

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MarieDarling wrote:

EDIT: Oh, and in entry 4 Alex seems to be running towards slenderman so it would seem he is not afraid of him yet. Could Entry 10 be a continuation of 4? Both are nighttime chases...

Also, for 13 why would he be location scouting so late in the filming? I always kind of thought 13 might be a continuation of 5, when we know J was with Alex.


I believe the general consensus is that 10 is a continuation of 4, so it would make sense for them to go together on the timeline. Same with 1/6 (possibly 8/1/6.)

Personally, I'm with the people that think 13 is the third sighting, after 2 and 12. There's really no way of knowing if it's a continuation of 5 because in 5 we see only Alex and in 13 only J is shown in full view so we can't really compare them. Maybe this was intentional?

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I think we need to figure out where 3 fits in. Some of the events in it almost seem directly linked to each other, I think this is when Alex first started gathering all of those tapes.

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Now that we have more MH era footage where does it fit? I'd say it's a safe bet that it falls before 7. Based off J's comment about the camera running I think it's the very beginning of Alex's paranoia, or really terror.

I think he's just starting to get un-nerved by it all, and whatever denials he may have cooked up for himself are falling apart. I'd go as far as to say this was almost directly before 7 based off the comment about where Brian was. I'm going with the idea that Alex seen SM outside the window and was rationalizing it must have been Brian screwing with him. Then a few days later he sees SM again and this time Brian is less than a foot from him, hence his completely startled reaction.

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Yeah i think that sounds on point. I think that the memory loss idea really muddies the issue of chronology except though I think it basically follows the current order, but plausiable narratives could really put the videos in any order as long as there is a clear distinction between before and after Alex starts to continously films himself

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El Mono wrote:
Yeah i think that sounds on point. I think that the memory loss idea really muddies the issue of chronology except though I think it basically follows the current order,


Very true. I'm working off a half theory that SM "dimming" effect as it's been dubbed looses it's edge the longer your around it. The more aware of him you become the less his camouflage works.

Sort of like those checkerboard-rooms with strobe lights you see in haunted houses. The first time you walk in you never see the guy standing there, the 3rd or 4th and you're expecting it, even looking for it.

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Is this still the active thread for chronology discussion? If so, shouldn't we discuss everything including entry 20? Using Tim's condition to create a MH timeline with the tapes gives a slightly different version than using Alex.

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Kitsuhime wrote:
Is this still the active thread for chronology discussion? If so, shouldn't we discuss everything including entry 20? Using Tim's condition to create a MH timeline with the tapes gives a slightly different version than using Alex.

is now Razz

and how can we use tim's condition as a timeline

he has it in 20

not noticeable anywhen else
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chaos wrote:
Kitsuhime wrote:
Is this still the active thread for chronology discussion? If so, shouldn't we discuss everything including entry 20? Using Tim's condition to create a MH timeline with the tapes gives a slightly different version than using Alex.

is now Razz

and how can we use tim's condition as a timeline

he has it in 20

not noticeable anywhen else


But Alex is pert and perky unlike later when Tim is fine and Alex is a scary beast.

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