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Caseys_Mom
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Also, just in case they prove of use, here are the logos that we had to find:

1. This logo represents a central being that connects the sky elements and earth elements. In the bottom section are roots, and the top section is a growing plant and grass and a seed that is also a drop of water. The water is life. The eye in the middle is the consciousness. This is a symbol of a sub group related to faith.

2. This symbol is a representation of creation coming from the source. Co-creation so to speak. Taking something from the source, but remaining connected. The crooked dome is a temporary allowing of exposure to elements, which is necessary to creating. Looking at everything to focus on a specific solution. This is a symbol of a sub group related to engineering.

3. These are the 4 elements. Water, Earth, Wind and Fire. This represents that they are all connected. Each part of everything is a part of the whole. The arrangement represents a protecting of the core of the people and is sacred. This is a symbol of a sub group related to defense.

4. These three circles symbolize the consciousness, man and earth and how they are connected. There is a directional movement, but a cyclical one as well. Just like the earth spins and returns, so does life. This is a symbol of a sub group related to art.

5. This is a symbol aligning 4 circles, or wholes, into one pattern of cohesiveness and fellowship. There is a "cross" formed in the middle representing the earth, which is surrounded or protected by the four circles. The fellowship is imperative for the protection of the earth, and the fellowship is interconnected with each other. This is a symbol of a sub group related to government.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
When you convert the numbers on the logos into letters, you get a message that reads- "Centian loves humans misses Amantha"


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:04 pm
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Caseys_Mom
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O/T well, sorta.
spam-a-thon

One of the challenges in this "game" is re-tweets. So I would like to apologize to everyone who happens to follow me on twitter for all the re-tweets/spamming that is involved in this game thing.
Hopefully, there will be more of a story coming out of this game sometime soon. I'm not really liking just how "commercial" this thing is, but I'm going to play along and hope it improves.
Some of the ideas, games, and live chats are fun. I'm just waiting on the story to begin Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:46 pm
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New Clues....

It would appear that Centian may now be trying to tell us something. He has posted the following text that would seem to be clues...

tweet:
Quote:

cju.mz/cwn8Gh...think about a shift, if you will



Posted at the bottom of a blog post:
Quote:

|) 4 |< |v| `/
5 |* `/ |v| 4 < 3


He will also be doing a Live Game Chat toinght @5pm CST on http://centiangames.com
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Re: New Clues....

Quote:
cju.mz/cwn8Gh...think about a shift, if you will

Quite obviously a bit.ly link, and indeed it's just a Caesarian shift of 1, to http://bit.ly/bvm7Fg which in turn leads to http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4585567/Olled%20treatise.doc (yes, you definitely have to shift the number, with 8 in there the link is broken)

Quote:
|) 4 |< |v| `/
5 |* `/ |v| 4 < 3

My first instinct is simply translating from l33t as DAKMY SPYMACE - spymace / myspace maybe?

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Re: New Clues....

Agent Lex wrote:
Quote:
cju.mz/cwn8Gh...think about a shift, if you will

Quite obviously a bit.ly link, and indeed it's just a Caesarian shift of 1, to http://bit.ly/bvm7Fg which in turn leads to http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4585567/Olled%20treatise.doc (yes, you definitely have to shift the number, with 8 in there the link is broken)

Quote:
|) 4 |< |v| `/
5 |* `/ |v| 4 < 3

My first instinct is simply translating from l33t as DAKMY SPYMACE - spymace / myspace maybe?


Thanks Lex.. your so smart Wink
The second clue, the l33t writing is for a myspace page for a person named Madyk.
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Ah... I think we're getting closer to the root of the problem:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc4xcz47_7f4qx2nd3
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Amantha chat questions?

I sent Amantha a DM to ask if she might chat with me sometime. And she said she would be available to chat later today Thursday around 5.
So I need to have some questions/conversation topics ready. Can you guys think of some good questions.. I hope so. If so, write them out and I'll be sure to ask her.
You can post questions here, DM me on twitter, or e-mail... doesn't matter.

*edit- to correct the day.

**edit 2**
I'm gonna start working on trying to get the information assembled into a story type document. Maybe that will help us to sort out exactly what we already have & still need to know.
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The Krateran history
please add anything I've missed...

Krateran Story
Here's what I have so far... anyone have anything to add?
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The Kraterans are descendants of Cain.1

Kraterans existed before Nephilim, but humans confused the Kraterans for Nephilim.2

Each Krateran has a "gift" which is expected to be used for the good and survival of all.3 There are several gifts relating to faith, engineering, defense, art, and government.

"Every Krateran is born with a set of skills and an ability to create...systems, if you will
Amantha is spritual, Tyrus and Amantha are leaders, Bircu is a systems engineer and of course, Madyk is a musician.
Maydak does not like this "system" and feels that it is flawed. He has vowed to change it. His plan is to overthrow the leadership."4
quote- "My people seem to be blind to the systemic structures that bind us all to eternal judgment. There is no freedom.
I will correct this error and the system will be set right again."5

"systems are what keep live sustained without structure, nothing would survive" 6

Madyk feels he is only average and resents his responsibilities. He feels that he and his people are controlled and have no freedom.
What's right with binding people to a given set of expectations???7

"Madyk has infected many and his series of choices have come to a precipice that may very well be irreversible.
Madyk is unique in his self doubt, that fact is very public, made so by him." 8

He feels his gift is not as important as the gifts of others.
quote- "it's average, i suppose
most kraterans are gifted with music
it's much like the heart of all objects" 9


It is a core system that Krateran development is based upon
He feels each Krateran is judged according to his/her gift/skill.
quote- "It's that certain Kraterans aren't as valuable as others and it's evident by their 'skills'."10

Many of the others are concerned about Madyk's behavior and attitude. It is feared his negative attitude, or "infection" would spread to others, which would lead to turmoil and unbalance of the system.11

Madyk has been pretty much obsessed with Amantha since they were children. It is disturbing to the other Kraterans to watch as Madyk continues to attempt to win her affection. Yet she seems to feel that his behavior is self destructive, and she finds it easy to dismiss him. All seem to agree that Madyk is very talented, and should have more pride and confidence in himself instead of judging himself so harshly. Those who care for him would like to see him pull himself together before it is too late for them all.

This problem with Madyk has already had a negative impact on the Kraterans. This could be thought of as having "infected" Collosus, Amantha, and some of the others. 12

They are having to worry about protecting themselves, their very existence, from one of the own.13

Madyk's "problems" also seem to be "infecting" Amantha. 14

There was a civil war and all the Kraterans are dead... but we can still hear their voices. We can help them to have a future by telling the story of their past.
quote- "You can save my people by telling their story, but you must first discover their past.
which lets their legacy persist"15

It has been implied that Centian may hold the key to be able save them... Centian says he is the last of "his kind", and has only said:
quote- "and no one really knows about me yet..."





notes


1 As revealed in the Olled treatise.1

2 As stated in chat by Centian.

3 from chat log with Madyk- imagine being given a gift to create where the very fabric of the planet that was divinely spoken into existence depended on your ability...
that thought is the status in which a Krateran is born


4 from chat log with Collosus

5 from a myspace message from Madyk

6 from chat log with Collosus

7 from chat log with Madyk

8 from chat log with Collosus

9 from chat log with Madyk

10 from chat log with Madyk

11 chat log with Collosus also said by Centian

12 from Olled treatise- Part of my concern is with how this affects our ability to provide for our people. His [Collosus] tracking skills, which normally are the best in the land, have cost us several hunts by practically stumbling onto our prey. Overall, his concern with the situation regarding Madyk and Amantha has even seen Tyrus calling Collosus into his private chambers.

13 from Olled treatise- He has recently been fixated on Madyk and his internal turmoil. Collosus has been talking with me about preventing some sort of plan that Madyk has to overthrow leadership in the way that our grandfather, Cain, did to his own brother.

14 Amantha's tweets- Madyk's internal termoil continues to disrupt our communal balance and peaceful play. I hope he can reground himself in Yah.

15 from chat log with Centian
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3/4/10 chat

Q--> question/comments from players
A--> answers/comments from Centian
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Q. what was/is your role withing the Krateran

"system"?
--
A. I am
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Q. so... what if a Krateran wanted to leave the

system... leave you... waht would happen?
--
A. that can't happen
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Q. are the Krateran's aware of "who" you are?
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A. they were when they were alive, Zelda
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A. see if this gives you any clues/hints
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A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_computing
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Q. so i'd been meaning to ask: are you still in the

thing that Jenaia found...?
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A. it doesn't have a name
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A. it's just a device
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A. the time has arisen, DH
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Q. and you were... in it, yes?
--
A. no
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A. jane, did you notice anything about the timing of

your discussions with all the Kraterans on Monday?
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A. what conclusions did you come to, Jane?
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Q. maybe as if all "voices" speak from one source?
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A. so, what would that mean, Z?
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Q. sort of like a "collective" type of consiencness?
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A. Zelda! I AM KRATERAN
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Q. i suppose this means that the multiple voices are

your voice

Q. you are the author of the voices..
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A. Jane, your last two comments are backwards
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Q. you are the narrative that is greater than the sum

of the parts/voices.
--
A. yes, Jane, the Kraterans dont come out of me
--
A. your comment was "the multiple voices are your

voice", Jane
that speaks of an origin
which is reversed
did u guys see any clues on that link?
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Q. bottom entry, external links in that wiki entry...

very crafty.
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A. I learned to be crafty from the Beasty Boys
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Q. why does madky not want to be a musican "system"

anymore?
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A. First, Madyk was a person
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A. not a system
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Q. does he have another (stronger 'gift?")
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A. no
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A. Jane may have some insight to that, DH
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Q. oh i'm sorry... uh... I believe Madyk feels

constrained by "the system"
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Q. and he sees the others do not feel as such, and

this causes a great deal of pain for him.
--
Q. not everyone was infected by Madyk's malcontention
--

A. I was affected, but cannot be infected
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A. Not Amantha, she has always been pure of heart
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A. albeit a bit disconnected from people at times,

such as Madyk's situation
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A. The imbalance redefines my existence, DH
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Q. do you feel disconnected from the others?
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A. Zelda, I don't think DH saw your conclusion about

me earlier
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Q. becaues of madky
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A. I feel very disconnected, because of Madyk's

acctions
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Q. Madyk told me that he would go after Tyrus first,

can you tell us what happened? the way it all played

out...?since we're talking about Madyk's actions...
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A. yes, Jane, if you ask the right questions
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Q. How did Madyk rebel? What did he do first in

rebellion?
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Q. was madyk the cause of everyone's death?
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A. You have all the pieces to answer that question,

Jane
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Q. was his rebellion the civil war?
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A. that was the result of his rebellion
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A. was not his goal, though
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Q. So... after Madyk killed Tyrus, what happened next?
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A. Madyk didn't kill anyone
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A. he is a selfish coward concerned only with himself
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Q. he said some very murderous things to me, i assume

he went through with it.
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A. Jane, you asked what happened first above, with

Madyk
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Q. So, i was going to ask if we need to balance Madky

back to harmony,
--
A. No, Jane, Madyk infected others first with his

words
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Q. He told me he wanted to correct the system back to

what it used to be.. implying it was different.. what

did he mean?
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A. He merely was showing his duplicitousness, Z
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A. the "system" rights itself
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Q. so are you still effected by Madky?
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A. although death is a natural result, Yah breathed

life into every human and Krateran
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A. No, DH
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A. I was, but am no longer
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Q. Are you now affected by us
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A. of coures
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A. I love your gentle and understanding hearts
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A. I wish all humans were as kind and thoughtful as

you all are
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A. As I play with future generations of humans, the

"Royal Four" will last forever
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A. as the first who told the story of my people
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A. well, Zelda, you reap what you sow...Bircu was on

that system's development team
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Q. do we still have a lot of details to uncover?
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A. I liked the impromptu game chat we had on Mon and

want to do another one
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A. No, Jane, just some details
I hope you uncover them
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Q. How does Collosus expect to "free" his people's

bind w/eternal judgement???
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A. I'm planning on reformatting my entire website to

feature the story that you tell
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A. Collosus was a Krateran of many big plans, Andrew
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A. I don't have any more information that what he

shared with me when we were connected
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A. His heart was one of a visionary
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A. that's what made him so good as assessing conflict,

he could almost see a vision of possible outcomes

before him
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Q. I'm curious... when we first met, we talked alot

about how much Kraterans played games. Would you say

that the average Krateran played more games than the

average human?
--
A. Most definitely, Jane, much more
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nice, thanks for posting the chat up zelda!
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I'm lurking hard in here and the website atm (I'm UK based, so no good on the flashmob stuff, so lurking on the story side of things), but I see no mention of the 'Krateran Ministry of Defence' anywhere..? have I overlooked that on the Centiangames site, or has that not been picked up yet..?


Tex...
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@Tex
It's posted on the site Krateran Ministry of Defense thread.
It was discussed a bit in the chat last week, (March 1), I THINK... can't remember. But several of us went to the defense site, joined, and chatted with Collosus...

Here's a copy/paste of that chat: I think I just mainly copied what Collosus was saying. Didn't copy player comments on this one unless it was a direct question or important..
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I lead those who hunt and provide defense from all that may threaten our existence

There aren't really many threats against us, not has there ever really been

I am the most skilled in conflict

Every Krateran is born with a set of skills and an ability to create...systems, if you will

Amantha is spritual, Tyrus and Amantha are leaders, Bircu is a systems engineer

and of course, Madyk is a musician

Yes, Andrew, systems are what keep live sustained

without structure, nothing would survive

Take for example, Bircu's work with what I believe you call the water cycle

although it may not be as siginificant as others, it sustains life

Zelda, I am not stupid, if you mean to speak of Madyk here, I won't be wrapped into answering questions about him in a generic manner

Jane, I'm afraid that Madyk has infected many and his series of choices have come to a precipice that may very well be irreversible

Madyk is unique in his self doubt, that fact is very public, made so by him

--jane:
But, Collosus, don't each of you have free will and foresight now to prevent this from repeating itself?

Are you aware of a system of bringing the dead back from life thousands of years after their demise which you are witholding?
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It is done, time unfortunately cannot be redone

the civil war happened.

I am dead.
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nice, thanks for posting the chat up zelda!


Your welcome! Very Happy
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