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[The Rogue Wolf]

I'm still clinging to the "face on the screen is Masky" theory. Why? Because if you look closely at the image, the face itself is flickering slightly. You can see the dark spots that are the eyes moving a little. But what everyone is calling the "nose" doesn't appear to be moving at all. It looks to me that it's simply a background object showing through.

That's my take on it and I'm sticking to it.

[the_diz]

my tv theory is this. looking back on the screenshots of all of the cameras, as long as we assume that it is a recording of whats outside, there is evidence to support both slenderman and masky are "smiling for the camera."

for support of slendy on the outside, in a few of the frames, it appears that he is lurking at a distance, casting a shadow, however, just because the shadow is long, does not mean it is slendy, because there are plenty ways of creating an elongated shadow. The problem is that it appears as though he is lurking, which doesnt seem like masky's thing. Imo, masky prefers to observe J, and eventually, be seen. In several several scenes with slenderman, he has viewed at a distance, most notably the scenes at the park and during filming where they wait for him to get out of the shot.

However there is some sort of evidence for masky as the one in the camera's view. In one shot, there seems to be some speculation that slenderman is in the house. We see white spots that look similar to his chest and hand. Aside from the masky fight, masky seems to enjoy "smiling for the camera," to the point of suggesting it in one of his videos, kind like, "You can record me jay, but it wont change anything."

The main reason i believe that it is slenderman is that the "face" seems to be translucent, which would be hard to pull off for masky. However, i would like to point out the fact that in the tv, in screenshots 3 and 3-3, there seem to be two extremely bright lights near the top of the camera, which could be lights from a house, but in screenshot 3-2, the "line of light," seems to go down to the entrance of what appears to be a driveway, almost like a car pulling in. The lights at the top of the screen seem to remain, but they are covered up by a reddish hue. im not sure if its been brought up before but i would like to hear what other peoples opinion on this is.

[Slender freak]

I really dont like where MarbelHornets is going, because it is starting to add Lost elements to it. Im ok with minor time travel logic but not cross interdimensional time travel.

[TheAtroxious]

Wow, some of you guys are really determined not to believe what you don't want to. By now, I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that J's been teleporting. Those of you who don't believe it just don't want to because you don't think it fits the story. Right now, it's pretty hard to put up a firm argument against it, though. I'm sticking with the teleportation theory until I am given something more to work with.

On the skull face, I'm going either way of it being a skull or being Masky. I don't think it's Slendy, as the eye sockets are too dark, and it seems to have a shadow where the nose should be. This is possible with a mask, but not with Slendy's face.

I might mention that I think some of you guys are getting too firmly ingrained in the idea that the image on the TV is unquestionably an outside surveillance camera. For all you know, whatever supernatural force is behind this could be broadcasting an image of a skullface onto the TV screen in a message related to "smile for death". Given the way electronic equipment has been fucked with before, we can't deny that it's a possibility that whoever is responsible for this (we're assuming that it's Slendy, though TTA and Masky do have some suspicion upon them) could project images like this onto a screen.

[Dray]

Why start speculating that they can broadcast images onto a screen when all that we've seen in the past suggests that they screw up video and audio and otherwise make it unreadable? Why would they be doing the opposite, now?

I'm seeing Slendy in the first screen shift, when Jay looks over at the screen and gets up. It's a blank head-shape that moves slightly and morphs back into a grid-like shape once he gets up and goes to his 'goon cave.' (lol, that term... XD) The second face that shows up once Jay doesn't exit from his side of the room seems most likely to show Masky. I wouldn't be too distraught that the image is of a skull... linking 'smile for death' to it makes sense. But then, Jay is not (apparently) in the room at this point, so why bother?

I don't think that time travel is necessarily a warranted conclusion to be gleaned from this. Teleportation seems quite likely, but this is not to say that Jay is hopping forward through time and poopin' out the other end, two hours later. We see that he went somewhere in #19+Return, it is most likely that he will have gone somewhere in #24+next TTA response.

#23 does present an anomaly where, if he is teleporting, he is losing time as the sun dips down and then comes up again. If that's the case he could be suffering from non-instantaneous teleportation. As in, if Masky/TTA/whatever does not have full control over these teleporting abilities, going from Point A to Point B could be less than instantaneous. Still faster than physical travel, perhaps, but not necessarily as fast as the blink of an eye.

As much as teleportation seems like the main point they're trying to get across with this concept, _{the focus of the presentation, the lens of this performance} , the fact that the timers change and that the door makes a sound but does not move still gives me reason to feel uneasy about saying that teleportation is THE answer. Like has been mentioned before, it could still be a cover job. It's not necessarily a very sturdy alternative hypothesis, but there is still doubt in my mind that teleportation is the real thing that we're seeing. Not when the two main characters (antagonist and protagonist both) are so good with film and both have access to editing equipment.

They may be playing tricks with us!

[GnomonRose]

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[Renren]

[Kjax8]

The skull idea seems kind of arbitrary to me, where would it come from? I'm aware of the "smile for death" idea, but J doesn't even see it.

I've seen the idea thrown out that the TV actually looks kind of like the bedroom itself...not sure I follow that, but would be kind of creepy with someone showing up on a bedroom camera after J is supposed to have left.

Or perhaps the TV is just J still sifting through tapes. We're just seeing something some outside influence doesn't want him to see. (hence him getting up and going to bed just before) And with the distortion on the TV, it seems to point to SM. Being such a close up shot I could understand his wanting it to go unseen. Thus the distortion in the bedroom and and the silhouette on the door could be SM working his Memory Magic and checking on his work in addition to possibly tampering with the tape.

Some reaching, but thought I'd try, seems be nothing more than idea goulash out there anyway.

[Aja Aeris]

[Yougottaloseallhope]

[Thermal Boners]

Went back to trolling for a bit but had to pop in and say something. This isn't a fun theory and not even necessarily something I believe, but I can't believe through 16 pages no one has thought of it as a possibility.

The side by side camera feeds don't necessarily support it, but the .3 seconds or whatever everyone is mentioning could account for this. Within the .3 allowance and allowance for human error, the face/skull whatever appears on the screen as Jay passes through the "portal"

Given the propensity Slendy has for manipulating camera equipment and the fact that the MH people are forcefeeding us teleportation, is there any way at all that it's possible that.......the face.......is Jay? Wherever he has been warped to? And if it is in fact a human skull on the screen, it could be a life/death kind of teleportation (i dunno) where it's a dimensional teleportation as opposed to a location teleportation as we saw in whichever numbered video he keeps walking through the doors?

I'm almost certain this is nonsense and drivel, but if someone wants to look into it deeper and take it and run with it, I'd love it. Or you can all just make fun of me that's fine, but if I'm right somehow, I want credit, even if I do none of the legwork.

[Thermal Boners]

Also, and this is much more realistic conjecture, something is DEFINITELY up with the way he looks over his shoulder and faceplants into the bed. These guys are no Clooneys, but I have way too much faith in their acting ability to accept that as him losing consciousness or any kind of nonsense like that, especially due to the fact that that is one of the most unnatural motions I've ever seen, no one in history has ever gotten into a bed like that before this video was shot. I don't think anything happens in that scene that we can figure out without help from TTA or anything, but in a video with such minimal content comparatively, such a weird glance and motion falling into bed like that, it HAS to be something, no?

[UpsizeThis]

I was beginning to think that there wasn't anyone else who thought the glance before going to bed was suspect. ...either that, or my posts were invisible/teleporting. lol.

Edit: Spelling error corrected.

[Watson]

I'm beginning to wonderif, by nature, Slendy and Masky watch Jay through camera footage the way he watches them...meaning the face on the TV screen is one of them staring back at him.

[UpsizeThis]

Hmm... I'm focused on this glance over the shoulder, and how he walks to and from the door. Maybe it's my imagination, but it seems like J could be walking out of the bedroom (1:34 - 1:39) at a different angle/line of approach, than when he re-enters the room (2:16 - 2:30). It seems like a slight deviation to me. Especially as he re-enters the bedroom, from the camera recording the bed.

Is there only one door to and from that bedroom? ...maybe he had a bad curry for dinner, and was painting porcelain for a few hours. lol.

Edit: Added tasteless joke.