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[VIDEO] Entry #24
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Mithost
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Slender freak wrote:
I really dont like where MarbelHornets is going, because it is starting to add Lost elements to it. Im ok with minor time travel logic but not cross interdimensional time travel.


I haven't read through the responses past this, but I wanted to mention, because I've seen several of these posts - time/dimension travel is NOT something that's unique to Lost, by ANY means. Lost did it VERY poorly, but I really don't see ANY parallels between MH and Lost, other than the fact that teleportation and possibly time travel happens, which happens in plenty of science fiction. Some do it better, some do it worse. It's difficult to tell how well MH is doing it, since we aren't even positive if time travel is happening yet. (I think my point is that time/dimension travel doesn't automatically mean it's ripped a page from Lost's book and is therefore terrible.)

Also, consider that this is clearly a science fiction narrative. Just look at Slendy for evidence of that. Within the parameters of sci fi, there are certain things you have to give more leeway for. So I guess I'm really not getting why you're complaining about more science fictiony stuff in a science fictiony story, when everything about Slendy seems to be so far above our human comprehension already.

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Slender freak wrote:
I really dont like where MarbelHornets is going, because it is starting to add Lost elements to it. Im ok with minor time travel logic but not cross interdimensional time travel.


On the whole it's far more like something from a John Keel book... ultraterrestrials and the like...

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 		Well, I must say that MH, if they do decide to elaborate on the fact that he is "teleporting", will have lost EVERY SINGLE OUNCE of entertainment it had. Putting teleportation and cross dimensional traveling into a web series primarily based on fear of the unknown and a semblance of realism is by far the most retarded idea ANYONE could come up with. Almost every sci fi movie or tv series has teleporting or time traveling somewhere in it. It's so cookie cutter, it will ruin MH for me and a bunch of other people.

I, for one, will stop following this altogether if they actually take this teleporting thing and run with it.

I mean, my gawd, that is RETARDED.

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 		Totally, I mean teleportation?? God this is re... *is teleported away*

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gordon_ramsay wrote:
Well, I must say that MH, if they do decide to elaborate on the fact that he is "teleporting", will have lost EVERY SINGLE OUNCE of entertainment it had. Putting teleportation and cross dimensional traveling into a web series primarily based on fear of the unknown and a semblance of realism is by far the most retarded idea ANYONE could come up with. Almost every sci fi movie or tv series has teleporting or time traveling somewhere in it. It's so cookie cutter, it will ruin MH for me and a bunch of other people.

I, for one, will stop following this altogether if they actually take this teleporting thing and run with it.

I mean, my gawd, that is RETARDED.

It's a series about a faceless, unkown entity with weird ass powers...please tell me where realism comes into play here? No offense, but this just seems to be making a mountain out of a mole-hill. If doen correctly, the teleportation/time travel idea could be beautiful and done in such a way that we would not even cosnider.

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 		I can understand wanting to maintain some semblance of realism while dealing with the unknown. Honestly, the less we know about something, the scarier it is, both in cinema and in real life. I love movies/shows when things are never fully explained, because it keeps them scary.

Just, from his initial post, it sounded more like he just didn't like it on a personal level so it was stupid. Which, clearly, was not his intention.

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Dray wrote:
Why start speculating that they can broadcast images onto a screen when all that we've seen in the past suggests that they screw up video and audio and otherwise make it unreadable? Why would they be doing the opposite, now?


Why start speculating? Why not? We've got to start somewhere, and going from disrupting various cameras isn't such a big step away from projecting images onto a TV screen. Especially when you think about how some of the disruptions occurred in the past. We've had the camera pick up images that weren't there before or after the disturbance cam about, including, and might I remind you, a weird skull-like face in Entry 22. My theory isn't going to any greater stretch of the imagination than those of us who are actively trying to find reasons why teleportation does not factor into any of this, when we've got far more evidence for it than against, simply because you personally do not like the conclusion. It's not like the creators have not gradually taken us to new revelations in the past, so it's entirely possible that there's more to this electronic interference than we know.

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I don't think that time travel is necessarily a warranted conclusion to be gleaned from this. Teleportation seems quite likely, but this is not to say that Jay is hopping forward through time and poopin' out the other end, two hours later. We see that he went somewhere in #19+Return, it is most likely that he will have gone somewhere in #24+next TTA response.

#23 does present an anomaly where, if he is teleporting, he is losing time as the sun dips down and then comes up again. If that's the case he could be suffering from non-instantaneous teleportation. As in, if Masky/TTA/whatever does not have full control over these teleporting abilities, going from Point A to Point B could be less than instantaneous. Still faster than physical travel, perhaps, but not necessarily as fast as the blink of an eye.

As much as teleportation seems like the main point they're trying to get across with this concept, the focus of the presentation, the lens of this performance , the fact that the timers change and that the door makes a sound but does not move still gives me reason to feel uneasy about saying that teleportation is THE answer. Like has been mentioned before, it could still be a cover job. It's not necessarily a very sturdy alternative hypothesis, but there is still doubt in my mind that teleportation is the real thing that we're seeing. Not when the two main characters (antagonist and protagonist both) are so good with film and both have access to editing equipment.

They may be playing tricks with us!


Okay, this is true. But I say this general idea should be held throughout the speculation process. No theory is rock-solid. That's what makes it a theory and not a confirmed fact. I don't think we should get too latched on to any particular concept too hard, but at the same time it does seem kind of ridiculous that some people are trying to make theories to fit the story as they want it to be, rather than as it is overwhelmingly presented.

I'm not saying that time travel or even teleportation is THE answer. Certainly, that would be rather idiotic. The creators could very well be playing with us and planning to take us on some breakneck twist, and I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up that way. But seriously, there are times when we need to go with the flow of the story and just accept it to some degree because there is a margin for error, despite what some of you seem to believe, and sometimes the counter-theories just get out of hand to the point where they come off as even more forced than the plot points in the story itself.

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 		So, as far as the teleporting theory goes, it seems obvious that the MH guys are making us think Jay is teleporting. It's possible that he isn't, and they're setting us up for a plot twist later. But regardless of whether he is or not, they want us to believe it, which I think we can all agree. Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, regardless of whether he is teleporting, that door is now known as Narnia-door. To, you know, avoid confusion with all the other doors we might talk about later.

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 		so my question is why didn't j barricade his bedroom door. We know that slenderman has gotten into alex's house and that masky has broken into jay's house. even if for some reason, he diddnt understand that slenderman came in and had his way with alex, he specifically uploaded footage of a masked man breaking into his house.

If im about to go to bed, leaving myself completely defenseless, im going to prevent anyone from coming in as much as possible.

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 		sorry if it was mentioned, but i was thinking something like this from entry 22 was possibly in the tv?



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KiteRider wrote:
sorry if it was mentioned, but i was thinking something like this from entry 22 was possibly in the tv?



I hadn't thought of that, nice!

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 		Also, to people who are STILL denying the teleportation:



If you're still doubting it after seeing this, you're just doing so because you don't want it to be true. The teleportation is no longer a theory, it's a confirmed plot device. That was the sole purpose of entry 24.

Keep in mind that this is their story, not yours. If you don't like it, stop watching.

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KiteRider wrote:
sorry if it was mentioned, but i was thinking something like this from entry 22 was possibly in the tv?



Scrolling down to this unexpectedly made me cry a little. But I definitely see the resemblance.

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 		Gotta admit, this teleportation thing feels a little off. MH always seemed to steer away from cliches like that.

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Mooser wrote:
Gotta admit, this teleportation thing feels a little off. MH always seemed to steer away from cliches like that.


It doesn't seem cliche to me at all. To be honest, it really fits in with a story about a 10-foot-tall supernatural being who wears a suit.

They have to keep introducing new plot devices, otherwise the story would just get boring.

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