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Dray
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Not sure that that's Jay on the couch so much as piles and piles of shit... well, not literally shit, but maybe random detritus that's built up over time? Timer says that it's only a few seconds between that shot and when Jay's on the computer. He's probably actually on the computer at the same time as we're seeing that couch shot.

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ktarthan
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I preface this with an apology in case I mention anything that's been gone over ad nauseum before, but I hope you'll forgive me for not having several weeks of time to pore over all of the available literature.

I would like to suggest the notion that perhaps not only are perceptions and electronic devices seemingly effected by the documented events, but perhaps also reality itself is flawed or being flawed. Stated another way, perhaps the reason that all of this seems so strange is that the general perception (Not only the IC cast's, but also ours as well) is unable to properly comprehend what is happening.

The one thing that seems to remain constant and gives us a sense of chronological continuity when there could be a suggestion that, for instance, J has blacked out, is the video recordings. However this leads to several unsettling conclusions (ie: working with portals!). One way that I feel "settles" the conclusions a bit better is suggesting that the events (whether SM is the cause or an effect) are altering reality as we know it, because we are unable to percieve the events properly.

Imagine a sheet of cellophane stretched over a frame, with water droplets spread across its surface. If left alone, the water droplets can carry along their merry little water droplet way, acting as water droplets do within their knowledge of an existance as water droplets on cellophane. Press your finger down in the middle, and their reality changes. For those droplets further away from the middle they wouldn't even notice a change (life on a 2D plane), but strange things start happening... they are moving after never having moved before.

Perhaps SM, or at least something very closely associated with him, is the finger on our cellophane.

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FourAlarmFire
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ktarthan wrote:

Perhaps SM, or at least something very closely associated with him, is the finger on our cellophane.


SM is the black hole and they are all being sucked in

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Dray
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ktarthan wrote:
I preface this with an apology in case I mention anything that's been gone over ad nauseum before, but I hope you'll forgive me for not having several weeks of time to pore over all of the available literature.

I would like to suggest the notion that perhaps not only are perceptions and electronic devices seemingly effected by the documented events, but perhaps also reality itself is flawed or being flawed. Stated another way, perhaps the reason that all of this seems so strange is that the general perception (Not only the IC cast's, but also ours as well) is unable to properly comprehend what is happening.

The one thing that seems to remain constant and gives us a sense of chronological continuity when there could be a suggestion that, for instance, J has blacked out, is the video recordings. However this leads to several unsettling conclusions (ie: working with portals!). One way that I feel "settles" the conclusions a bit better is suggesting that the events (whether SM is the cause or an effect) are altering reality as we know it, because we are unable to percieve the events properly.

Imagine a sheet of cellophane stretched over a frame, with water droplets spread across its surface. If left alone, the water droplets can carry along their merry little water droplet way, acting as water droplets do within their knowledge of an existance as water droplets on cellophane. Press your finger down in the middle, and their reality changes. For those droplets further away from the middle they wouldn't even notice a change (life on a 2D plane), but strange things start happening... they are moving after never having moved before.

Perhaps SM, or at least something very closely associated with him, is the finger on our cellophane.


I really wouldn't be surprised. That Slendy seems to take an interest to specific people though is what is really creepy. Being a force of nature is kind of terrifying in and of itself, but also having some sort of predatory focus is like... icing on the cake of "D:"

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ktarthan
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Dray wrote:
I really wouldn't be surprised. That Slendy seems to take an interest to specific people though is what is really creepy. Being a force of nature is kind of terrifying in and of itself, but also having some sort of predatory focus is like... icing on the cake of "D:"


What I think could be even creepier is if he doesn't have a focus. There's just a few people who are unfortuante enough to notice him.

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Dray
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But what about Slendy wandering into Alex's house and taking an apparent interest in him? D:

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ktarthan
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Dray wrote:
But what about Slendy wandering into Alex's house and taking an apparent interest in him? D:


How do you know he hasn't been in your house? (Or mine? D:)

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My feelings on the subject are that Slender Man might not even be purposefully dangerous. He simply lurks about us, watching us in our day-to-day travails, and those few of us who see him pique what might be called his "curiosity". He could be completely clueless about what harms he does to people, or that people might fear him. It could quite literally all be a fun little game to him.

Think about it. Has he (to our direct experience) lifted a finger to harm anyone? The only indication we have that he might bring harm to those he stalks is the fact that his entry into Alex's room was followed with him awakening with his head covered in blood... but we can't be sure if Slendy did that, or why.

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The Rogue Wolf wrote:
Think about it. Has he (to our direct experience) lifted a finger to harm anyone? The only indication we have that he might bring harm to those he stalks is the fact that his entry into Alex's room was followed with him awakening with his head covered in blood... but we can't be sure if Slendy did that, or why.


I really think Alex did that to himself by mistake. He probably woke up, saw SM STANDING RIGHT THERE, and flailed around like a terrified, newly-awoken baby deer. He could have just hit his head on something, like the floor or the camera if he picked it up and tried to put it against his face.

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ktarthan
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The Rogue Wolf wrote:
My feelings on the subject are that Slender Man might not even be purposefully dangerous. He simply lurks about us, watching us in our day-to-day travails, and those few of us who see him pique what might be called his "curiosity". He could be completely clueless about what harms he does to people, or that people might fear him. It could quite literally all be a fun little game to him.

Think about it. Has he (to our direct experience) lifted a finger to harm anyone? The only indication we have that he might bring harm to those he stalks is the fact that his entry into Alex's room was followed with him awakening with his head covered in blood... but we can't be sure if Slendy did that, or why.


I'd say that if that's the case, then we aren't dealing with Slender Man. Just something very similar in description, but very different in motive. It is quite clear that the Slender Man is a very dangerous creature from other related mythos outside of MH.

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Spritey
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ktarthan wrote:
The Rogue Wolf wrote:
My feelings on the subject are that Slender Man might not even be purposefully dangerous. He simply lurks about us, watching us in our day-to-day travails, and those few of us who see him pique what might be called his "curiosity". He could be completely clueless about what harms he does to people, or that people might fear him. It could quite literally all be a fun little game to him.

Think about it. Has he (to our direct experience) lifted a finger to harm anyone? The only indication we have that he might bring harm to those he stalks is the fact that his entry into Alex's room was followed with him awakening with his head covered in blood... but we can't be sure if Slendy did that, or why.


I'd say that if that's the case, then we aren't dealing with Slender Man. Just something very similar in description, but very different in motive. It is quite clear that the Slender Man is a very dangerous creature from other related mythos outside of MH.


The creators have referred to him as Slenderman OOG

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Dray
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Seems more like Slendy just likes playing with his food. Playing terror!chess, that is.

Razz

Though a dense Slendy makes for endless joke fodder. XD

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So, basically, there are two possibilities here:

1) The door, itself, functioned as a portal, meaning some sort of bodily teleportation.

2) The room, itself, "shifted", either in space/time or to some sort of alternate reality/dimension...so it was no longer in the same place it used to be. So it wasn't the door, per se...it was the fact the door was no longer where it used to be. Also explains why what we can see beyond the door (which, admittedly, isn't much) doesn't change. It's the same when he enters and exits the room.

I'm actually leaning toward #2, with the reasoning being we're seeing something of a "Fringe" (the TV series) effect...where there is some sort of alternate reality that Jay is crossing between. It also might explain the loss of memory..the traumatic process of crossing between the barrier is, functionally, causing short term memory loss.

I go back to the last video of Alex, where he says "they're all gone"...except, we know they're not ALL gone. Tim, at least, is still around. He's the....I don't know..."missing link", I guess? I suspect the others have all transitioned over to the other reality....or, rather, they've been taken there, for some reason, by Slenderman.

I know the working theory is that Tim might be Masky, but I'm leaning more toward that being Alex. And he has "figured out" the shifting events...and he may even have clues as to Slenderman's motivations. Or maybe he has no clue as to the motivation, which might be even more frightening.

I wonder if we'll get a totheark response on 24. I suspect the insight he lends could be considerable. Last time Jay sort of "disappeared", totheark "found" him. Wonder if he will, again.

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Dray
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The shifting room seems more likely to fit with the whole room going into distortion mode for a few moments there. At first I thought that was supposed to relate that Jay was going through some sort of shift or transformation but it's not like the distortion focuses directly on him!

Not sure about the extrapolation that you're getting from that. Why would Tim not be 'gone', nor Jay for that matter? What did they do that's different, that we know that they still are 'here'?

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Dray wrote:


Not sure about the extrapolation that you're getting from that. Why would Tim not be 'gone', nor Jay for that matter? What did they do that's different, that we know that they still are 'here'?


And there's the million dollar question...what makes them different, if they're not gone. Or is Alex's perception that they ARE gone, for some reason?

Jay can't remember anything, and this is all his POV, so he can't very well investigate himself. It just doesn't work out all that well (other than the security footage, which really only shows us events, but gives no explanation). The only other good source of information would be, you'd assume, Tim. Granted, he tried that...but Tim seemed somewhat evasive...especially at the end. I'm not sure if Jay could exert any more "pressure" to get info out of him, but it might be worth a shot.

The fact Jay has "holes" in his memory, from before his investigation started, is one of the lynchpins, IMHO. He was either being effected by Slenderman even then, or the Jay we see in the tapes where he can't remember those events is NOT the Jay we're seeing now.

I don't know which, but it has to be one of those two options.

One other thing from 24: The TV footage almost looks like "rolling security" footage, itself. Like it's a rolling feed on a bank of exterior security cameras. At least to me.

Which makes the "face" that may or may not be intentional, all the more creepy.

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