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[PUZZLE]Lightcycle Schematics
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MrToasty
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That's what I did - use the black and white edge pattern to create a mask in Photoshop and selectively move only what falls in the masked area.

As for putting the two images together and moving things, I started doing that but the image widths differ by like 10 pixels. There is matchup in the black and white patterns between the two though. I wasn't getting anything noticeable right off the bat, so I stopped for the time being.

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jasonw
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We did something similar to what MrToasty describes - we had a selection of just those rows indicated in the black bars, and we'd intersect it with a rectangle of the proper width for our column, then use those to move the data around.

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Laughing I'm doing that in Photoshop right now actually selecting several pixel rows and moving them all at once. Tedious no matter how you slice it because some of the slices are literally a single row of pixels. Even though the images are already done, I'm doing it as an exercise. My Tron Legacy Zen garden. I think I'll go blind for a little bit.

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Broklynite
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Yyyyyyyea, I started to work on them until I realized that I was starting to see double and gave up. My congradulations to you all and you have my admiration.

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AgentX
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Houdy, I was just looking at some old stuff from other arg's and this looked useful: http://argmuseum.com/main.php?g2_itemId=89 any idea if this helps with the colored blocks.... i could be way of base but here's hopeing.....

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Taro
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AgentX wrote:
Houdy, I was just looking at some old stuff from other arg's and this looked useful: http://argmuseum.com/main.php?g2_itemId=89 any idea if this helps with the colored blocks.... i could be way of base but here's hopeing.....


You could be onto something there. You link says the code is a Baudot code?

Maybe we could try and run the Lightcycle Pics through that theory?

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hughesst
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you know the more i look at these, the more i realize there are a CRAPLOAD of repeated elements in each of them. colors match up in certain "stripes" on the top and bottom and so forth. is there anyway any of that can be cleaned up into an original image? after that we may be onto something with Baudot.

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hughesst
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Also AgentX thanks for the suggestion, I remember seeing that code on Coldplay's X&Y CD. But forgive me, I can't help but think you might be a ninja with that being your first post and being such a good suggestion. Just sayin! Cool

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AgentX wrote:
Houdy, I was just looking at some old stuff from other arg's and this looked useful: http://argmuseum.com/main.php?g2_itemId=89 any idea if this helps with the colored blocks.... i could be way of base but here's hopeing.....


Incredibly - I don't think this is too far off, I found this site in reference to the Coldplay covers: Baudot Code Generator

It's exactly the same colour scheme at least - I'm gonna take a stab at seeing what I can see in the images (but please help cos I think it might mean cleaning the images up more).
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Broklynite
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You know, this is what I love about ARGs. I always come out learning things. I'd never even heard of Baudot code.

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badhand77
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Would this help?
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Not sure if this will help any, but I thought I 'd put it up here.



EDIT:

I added this better decoder to my flickr:


You can find a bigger version here:
http://bit.ly/9vrSCr

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It's occurred to me that the colour scheme isn't exactly the same, as I originally though, there's no grey in the schematics - BUT, looking at badhand77's image, it also apppears that the grey block are irrelevant, it never appears on it's own, always with a black and/or white block, so we can perhaps just assume the presence of a grey block when the image is cleaned up.

I'm still working through doing that myself, and it's quite painful so far - no idea when I'll get through it yet.
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Broklynite
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So what sotware are you folks using? I tried with photoshop and MS paint but it didn't go so well.

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MOVIELORD101
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I don't think I have any software to help with this, but maybe i could use that key to decipher that image, perhaps......

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KJA
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Re: Would this help?
Boudot Decoder

badhand77 wrote:
Not sure if this will help any, but I thought I 'd put it up here.



EDIT:

I added this better decoder to my flickr:


You can find a bigger version here:
http://bit.ly/9vrSCr


These colours have no significance to the Baudot Code. As a matter of fact, this colour coding system refers to Coldplay's X&Y album which indirectly uses the Baudot Code.

"Actually it doesn't matter about the colours, they are only there for aesthetics.

"The importance to the code is actually whether the coloured block is there or not, so is the graphic a zero or a one? For example on the album artwork the letter X is 10111 and Y is 10101 and the symbol for & has to be firstly activated with a sort of SHIFT character, which is 11011. So the & symbol is actually 11011 01011. All pretty confusing, but pretty much explanative when you can see the pattern that is present."

It must be understood that "every character [in the baudot code] is coded by 5 bit (or binary numbers 0, 1), to a total of 32 possible characters."

If you take Coldplay's X&Y album, "in place of the number “1” a little coloured square has been put and instead of “0” there's an empty space."

Once the binary representation of the code can be cross-referenced by the table here: (http://www.dataip.co.uk/Reference/BaudotTable.php), one can convert the Baudot Code into everyday letters in the English language.

Getting back to the schematics, I would think it would impossible to find a Baudot Code within those pictures, considering how there is no apparent pattern to which we could identify as a 0 or 1.

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