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A Century of Charades - 100 riddles from 1895
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catherwood-offline
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rose wrote:
still no guesses?

now i feel the pressure to log in from work, very bad of me.

my research says that the Brits refer to a steam locomotive as a worm with a fiery head, so train or tram for the first syllable.

at the verge of the ocean would be its edge? sand or beach, maybe.

train+sand = transcend (ugh)

Length was a sufficient hint, just give us some time, ok?

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Rogi Ocnorb
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 		The whole time I've been looking at this, the last bit kept making me think "darkness", but catherwood's find reminded me of a term booba hit on, earlier.
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still

Which could work with the 2nd line fairly well.
The 2nd would then be a really obscure term that I only recognize because some of my people came from the northern end of Lewis Island in Scotland where the area happens to be named for it's geographic feature. (I always thought it and the loch of the same name were called that based some famous person or something.).
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Ness

So, the whole would be
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 		Sometimes ancestors are necessary.

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I have lineage from Kentucky, and would hear the phrase "copper worm still" from time to time. A crude one here:

http://www.coppermoonshinestills.com/id3.html


Good work on a tough one Rogi.

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rose
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Rogi is right! stillness is the answer! Good thing we have relatives that tell us old sayings. I would never have thought of a still as a worm, but seeing the photo it makes sense.


I really appreciate Cath's comments (particularly as one of the reasons I started this thread is that I thought she, among others, would enjoy it.) So , I think I won't give any hints until at least two people ask. Is that OK?

I would be a terrible PM. I get anxious that people are stuck or bored when I don't hear anything from the peeps in the forums.

The next one follows, spacing between the stanzas is correct, but no subheadings this time:

XXXI

If milk is added to my first,
You have an antidote for thirst.

A blade of grass my second, or
A weapon to attack a boar.

My whole was held for many a year
The prince of poets without peer;
Now comes a reputation-knifer
To make him out the merest cypher.
Unless I'm very much mistaken,
He can't succeed, to save his bacon.
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 		I've got one for this.
Kevin definitely didn't do it.

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 		Heh.

I think booba knows it (I do).

A story we've seen around the uf halls many times.

ETA: I am surprised to hear they had that drink in the nineteenth century, though.
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 		From 1885 until 1900 it was a:

BAABABAABBBABAABAAABAAABBBBAAA AABBBAABAAAAAAAABABBBAABBAABBBAABABBABAAABABB AABAAAABBAAABBAABBABABBBAAABBA BAABBBBAAAABBBBAABAA ABBBAAABAB AAABBBAAABABAAAABBABABABA BABBAABAAABAABBAABBB AABAAAABBAAABBABAABA BABBAAABBBABAAABAABAABABAAABAABBAAA AABAABAABBAAABA

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 		But, AAABBABBABABBAABAABA AABABABBABBAAAAAABBAAABAABAABA BAABAAABBBAABAA ABABBABAAAABABAABAAB
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 		la la la lal la la la

fancy schmancy cyphers. but none of them in sonnet form Smile

can someone -- preferably a newbie --jump in with the answer?

I've looked ahead and the next one is short and sweet (no peeking)

No rush though, I'm in the city from 5:30am to 9:00pm tomorrow, unless I oversleep. or maybe that's Thursday? anyway, no rush.
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 		I know what it is. I read it and went "No, it can't be that.", but your comments gave it away. Also the bacon at the end. Mm, delicious milkshakes and bacon. I mean...

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Shakespeare!


Which is... also delicious. To my brain.

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 		XXXII
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Shakespeare is correct!Though, I think he would choke on the use of "reputation-knifer." Not so elegant.
Great job Aiobhan and cute use of the baconian cypher! [insert your own joke about milkshakes in the yard; or, I drink your milkshake here, I can't think of one.]


I think this one looks hard:


XXXII

To make my last upon my first,
   The poet's lyre oft is struck;
My whole, with fire-water cursed,
  Loses his head and runs amuck.
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 		huh. I got nothing.
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 		Ditto
Interesting if not useful:

"The lyre is called by poets a "shell," because the cords of the lyre used by Orpheus (2 syl.), Amphion, and Apollo, were stretched on the shell of a tortoise."

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 		Nothing here either.

"Fire-water" always makes me think of Native American Indians but couldn't make any 2-syllable tribes work with anything else in this charade (Mohawk, Mojave, Chinook, etc.)

"Loses his head and runs amuck" brought to mind the phenomenon of chickens continuing to run around for minutes after they've been decapitated. Again, that's led nowhere.

As for the first couple of lines I haven't had any thoughts worth pursuing.

I put forward a motion for a clue (although I believe protocol now requires that this is at least seconded!)
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 		*Rogi seconds the motion.
I'm drawing a complete blank on this one.
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