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S.Venator
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And once more:

I studied the google map the last days. Nothing. Maybe the date, just an April`s fool?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:10 pm
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Rhalandria
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So far no email from Thelema College, but the Facebook page for What Happened to Sarah? has a few updated posts from Neil Desmarais Smile

A spooky cop named
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Sgt. Milrand
has been speaking with Neil and asking questions about Vincent. Wonder who this mystery guy is - googled him, but so far nothing there, as well as FB or twitter concerning him. Also looks like Neil is staying at the house now and both Cindy and Vincent are ok with that.

Nothing new on the twitter end of things.

Anyone got anything else new? I'm gonna go back and review some stuff, but wanted to let y'all know there's a little bit of new info. on FB Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:48 pm
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I mentioned the Assassins cult from Alamut because pretty much every mystic order of the western word claims ties to them. Weishaupt's Illuminati in Bavaria claimed to be a descendant of the assassins, and was in fact organized along the same lines, whether or not the tie is indeed factual. The Order of the Golden Dawn claims to follow on from Weishaupt's Illuminati. Weishaupt also called his inner circle The Golden Dawn, so we can see the linkages to the current story there in the accountants Goldman and Dawn.

I am digging fairly deep looking for matters of their Symbology, trying to find out if they used Sigils or the like extensively. As outcasts in the Islamic world, there are some pretty strong links with both the Templars and Jewish groups rumoured to have mystic Kaballah roots. Most Western Mystical Symbols and Sigils have their roots in the Kabalah, who heavily favoured numbers 3, 4, and you guessed it, 12.

Mostly, I am thinking outloud here, possibly chasing a red herring, but it did catch my eye and trigger several links in my head.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:34 pm
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S.Venator
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And in Thelema, 11 is the magick number, I didnt find an explanation for 12:

quote:
11 = Magnum Opus, the Great Work. It is the blending of the Pentagram (5) and Hexagram (6), or of the Rose (5 petals) and Cross (Sixfold Cross). It is the number of AVD (Magick Force). Sad

But I still focus on 12, because of Robert Maxwells Interview and his seal of twelve, which looks like the "synaptic connector". Just thinking loud, too.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:57 pm
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Rhalandria
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new vid up - Oriens II and it lists people that have their sigil uploaded to flickr Shocked

http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/ORIENS/

I'll let y'all take a look at it - finally something new!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:37 am
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spielpuppe
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i tried to write down some of the basic facts from the new video:

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"oriens part II":

- the video starts with a first person view of two differend people or things moving closer to Sarah's house. one person/thing is coming closer from a street near the house (I suppose this could be a person because "it" is not making the noises the blue orb does make!), the other (probably a blue orb - you can identify it at its specific sounds!) is coming closer from the seaside.

- short view of the lakeside and the steps leading to it

- a person sits within Sarah's house with a laptop and writes an email o a person he calls "Sergeant Milrand" (a local cop), the person is Neil Desmarais!

- Neil also created a new post at the Sarah DiMichaela Facebook group yesterday:

" That cop called me and left a message. Name is Sgt. Milrand. Said he knew I was staying here at the house and was coming around to look at the area again. That guy is a little odd. Asked again about Vincent too, if I've seen him here lately, and if he was with anyone. Simpler to just email him. This cop freaks me out a bit. He's spooky."

- the time the alarm clock is showing is is 2:15

- Neil is reading another email from Laurie McDonough, Goldman & Dawn:

"Neil,

I m the one who sent you the cell phone video of Vincent and my boss Paul having conversation. Strange gets stranger. I know you are looking for Sarah, and I was ... I can.

Even though she's only worked here a short time, I felt a connection ...

She's told me a little about the past couple years.

I intercepted another email to Pau Goldman. Thelema College is collecting (?)...

I am convinced that this is somehow connected to Sarahs disappear.

Look at this (this contains an URL Leading to a website showing the sigils some of us have created!)"


- Website shows the sigils of (all of them written in upper cases)
Melanie Strife, Venator, Gargary Blalid, Astri Captator, Virtus Lupus, Panthe ZNDR

- The Website doesnt make any sense to Neil, he s closing the laptop

- seaside: firs one orb is appearing from underwater, then others follow!

- Sarah is appearing in the bathroom mirror for a short period of time , saying again "there are 12 of them"

- Neil is confused seeing the blue glimmer around the house

- we see Neil seeing 12 blue orbs (allthough there are some trees in front of them you can count them out) building a circle!
(I am not sure wether there is one smaller blue orb in the middle of that circle, so please reply to the post if you have more specific info!)

- he tries to take a picture of them with a cellphone camera

- suddenly a blue orb appears behind Neil! It cant be one of the orbs he was seeing at the seaside!

- Neil falls on the floor.

- the blue orb comes closer, "watching" Neil

- the circle of 12 (or 13) orbs is still waiting at the seaside

- suddenly all orbs seem to have disappeared! Neil is still laying on the floor

- we see a last first person shot of something/someone hiding in the grass near the seaside (but this also could be a normal camera shot not showing anything specific).



Hope I didn't miss any important information from the video.
Feedback is welcome.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:32 am
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S.Venator
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1)
Im not familiar with source but there is this annotation in the sourcecode of ORIENS

"What time was it?"

2)
Everybody is on the way to the next magickal grade?

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-"the ruler of change lives in the south"

http://www.thelemacollege.com/disks/jupiter/


PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:01 am
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nomad
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Excellent work spielpuppe! I, for one, don't think that there is a smaller orb in the center of their circle as there are several similar bright dots across the lake, I don't think it is be another orb. Whatever it could be, the source of it appears to be underwater and the orbs do appear from underwater, so maybe it is the light produced by where spheres might have come from. Another Cthulhu connection, perhaps.

Also, could anyone please tell me what exactly do I do to become an initiate and what happens afterwards? Well, I draw my sigil (implying that I have software needed), submit it to flickr and then what happens?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:48 am
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spielpuppe
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Thanks for the good hint, S.Venator.

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S.Venator wrote:
1)
Im not familiar with source but there is this annotation in the sourcecode of ORIENS

"What time was it?"

2)
Everybody is on the way to the next magickal grade?

-"the ruler of change lives in the south"

http://www.thelemacollege.com/disks/jupiter/




The time within the latest video is definitely 2:15 am as I wrote above.
That leads us to: 215 equal to II I V, which makes a valid URL again:
http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/IIIV

The URL contains another part of the Mr Tambourin Man Lyrics:

"Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you"

(Nothing else being hidden within the sourcecode of that site.)



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S.Venator
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Hello Spielpuppe,

thinking loud:
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Very nice summary of the video. The time in the first video was 4:37...
These numbers (latinized) worked in the URL:

ryseely wrote:
atrament wrote:
Seal of twelve gives us a clue (draw on a clock):
4.3.7 : go 1 counter clock wise then 4 clockwise
1.12.4 : same
3.2.6 : same

looks good and coherent, does it not ?

remains :
2.1.5
5.4.8
6.5.9
7.6.10
8.7.11
9.8.12
10.9.1
11.10.2
12.11.3


Excellent, try those into the URL. It's definitely odd.
The ones that don't work are
10.9.1
11.10.2
and
12.11.3


I tried again, the last three still don't work. Maybe you are right, and each number is correlated with a video (time/date?). I'll check again.



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atrament
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they don't seem to be related to videos only, but they are indeed pretty remarkable in the different clues we get.
I think we might get new clues if we look to numbers from 1 to 12 everywhere. Good luck with this, i did not get any lead from there, though.

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atrament
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@ S.Venator : Could you please give us a hint on how you got the second part of the URL ? I may miss some culture, but I seriously do not understand...

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spielpuppe
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Summary

Nothing really new, but I wrote down all of the URLs we have found yet as well as the content that lays behind them:

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URLs:

01) 1.12.4 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/IXIIIV works
02) 2.1.5 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/IIIV works
03) 3.2.6 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/IIIIIVI works
04) 4.3.7 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/IVIIIVII works
05) 5.4.8 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/VIVVIII works
06) 6.5.9 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/VIVIX works
07) 7.6.10 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/VIIVIX works
0Cool 8.7.11 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/VIIIVIIXI works
09) 9.8.12 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/IXVIIIXII works
10) 10.9.1 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/XIXI doesn't work
11) 11.10.2 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/XIXII doesn't work
12) 12.11.3 http://www.whathappenedtosarah.com/XIIXIIII works

Content that lays behind those URLs:

01)
The college would like to guide you further.
There is another image within the suit. It's directory is the next order grade.

02)
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you

03)
----> The ruler of Change lives in the south of the seal.
(plus Audiofile fro Sarah "There are 12 of them.")

04)
This is "The Curtain."

It is part game, part web series.

The object of the game and the conclusion of the story are one in the same:
to find Sarah and to discover the nature of her situation, and that of the individuals close to her.
There is also a larger secret at hand.

"The Curtain" exists in two main ways.
1. In a cinematic form: such as the narrative depicting Sarah's disappearance. There will be 3 more.
2. In game play form: the discovery of clues, found objects, and actively unraveling the story).

This story has a beginning, and an end. However, an end is never truly an end.

The producers of "The Curtain" hope to use player interaction as part of what shapes the story.
We hope you find this as interesting as we do, and enjoy the tale.

More will be revealed. But what will be discovered?

05)
Though I know that evenin's empire has returned into sand
Vanished from my hand
Left me blindly here to stand but still not sleeping
My weariness amazes me, I'm branded on my feet
I have no one to meet
And the ancient empty street's too dead for dreaming

06)
Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship
My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip
My toes too numb to step
Wait only for my boot heels to be wanderin'
I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade
Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way
I promise to go under it

07)
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you

0Cool
Though you might hear laughin', spinnin', swingin' madly across the sun
It's not aimed at anyone, it's just escapin' on the run
And but for the sky there are no fences facin'
And if you hear vague traces of skippin' reels of rhyme

09)
To your tambourine in time, it's just a ragged clown behind
I wouldn't pay it any mind
It's just a shadow you're seein' that he's chasing

10)
-

11)
-

12)
Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free
Silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands
With all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves
Let me forget about today until tomorrow


Open questions:
If the system behind those URLs is correct there is one open question: Why do two of those twelve URLs NOT work?

Which system lays behind the Mr. Tambourin Man Lyrics?

Do we find more than those 12 URLs (that would be a test if we are right with our system)?



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atrament
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Summary

Great information round-up Spielpuppe ! thanx a lot !

spielpuppe wrote:
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Nothing really new, but I wrote down all of the URLs Open questions:
If the system behind those URLs is correct there is one open question: Why do two of those twelve URLs NOT work?

This is precisely what has made my eyebrows twich for the last few days...

spielpuppe wrote:
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Which system lays behind the Mr. Tambourin Man Lyrics?

Good Question. I think there are two possibilities.

  1. They are there as a filler to make the pages exist (before it's update time), and contain no clues whatsoever. This seems to go well with the missing parts in the lyrics, I think, but it will be possible to verify this only when an update will have occured.
  2. They contain a code, which may be very clever, or very important to the search we pursue. But we have not found it yet.


spielpuppe wrote:
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Do we find more than those 12 URLs (that would be a test if we are right with our system)?

"Thou Shalt Not BruteForce." Smile

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S.Venator
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atrament wrote:
@ S.Venator : Could you please give us a hint on how you got the second part of the URL ? I may miss some culture, but I seriously do not understand...


It was the "ruler of change", in some articles mentioned as moon, some mentioned saturn, and some others... o.k.? No "brute force" there Wink

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