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[VIDEO] Entry #25
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squidbutt
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AshleySix wrote:
I had a thought.

What if this was Slendy's way of persuading J to go back to The House?


But how's burning someone's apartment down incentive for them to go back to The House? Outright violence is just going to keep him locked up in his hotel room.

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AshleySix wrote:
I had a thought.

What if this was Slendy's way of persuading J to go back to The House?

Explain, if you could. I do not see how torching his apartment would encourage J to go back to the house.

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Squidbutt ninja'd me D:

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Well, in the thought that Slendy isnt a supergenius.....

Perhaps, Slendy thinks, that if he burns down J's place, he wont have anywhere to go. Maybe he is trying to eliminate any place that he thinks J could go to, to try and lead him back to the house. Or maybe you could switch Slendy with TTA, and this is tta trying to get J to open doors left unopened?

....there is a door he hasnt opened in there, right? xD

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For starters, Im calling that the next TTA vid will have a hidden clip of billy joels "we didn't start the fire" in it, giving further proof that TTA/masky is a coalition.

I think Fiasco is on to the right track. Instead of seing how this video was tampered with, I think we should try and deduce how/who started the fire. We DO know that the footage has been tampered with. Further research on the tape/original tape comparison may yeild a definite slender sighting but i think that we can all agree that slenderman was there, even if he wasnt in the video.

For starters, We should look at J. He might not be the first person that most people look at, but we have to consider the fact that he does lose a lot of time and does things he doesnt remember. I dont think that it is save to assume that because he loses gaps in time that he is a puppet for slenderman tho.

Next, we should look at Slenderman. As for motive, we can only assume. He could have done it to get rid of jay and/or the tapes. Its also entirely possible, although not as probable, that he killed the pets in the building due to his (supposed) familiarity with the house and burned it down to get rid of the evidence. This last theory relies heavily on non-MH Slendymythos, although we have some evidence that dead animals have been found in the story.(in brians yard).

Next up is TTA and/or Masky. We know that If tta is not masky, then they are definitely in cahoots. We know that "it is not a game" anymore and they are serious now. Im pretty sure it is common knowledge that TTA follows the MH YT account and the Twitter account, so he would know he is out of the house. Him burning the place down to destroy the evidence(tapes) or as a way to combat slenderman, who was on the scene. The problem with these theories is that we dont know if slenderman was there at the time of the fire. He could have appeared after the fire started. Also, im not entirely sure that TTA would burn the tapes as they probably have a lot of clues in them, unless in his eyes, this would be the penalty for leaving the tapes there. It could also be a sign that jay "has nowhere to go now." Its also possible that TTA lifted the tapes for is own use, although i think its been said that he has had access to the tapes at one point.

Next is alex. This one is pretty straightforward. We know that he wanted the tapes burned and he could have the perfect opportunity. Id also imagine that he would be pretty mad that instead of burning them, J had been showing them to countless people. Slendermythos says that slenderman exists only if you think about him. its possible that the whole reason alex wants them burned is so that no one else can know of him.

I don't think that Tim, brian, sarah, or anyone else can be discredited, but with the way that the story has been going, they have a lesser role in the story and they probably dont have as much a reason to do anything. Im still not completely sold on tim being masky. I do agree its highly probable, but its also possible that Masky is trying to lead tim to believe that masky is tim in order to alienate jay from tim who is his only link, that we know of, to the original production. The actor who plays masky and tim are one in the same though.

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Is there software that can compare two videos frame-by-frame, if there is, we could find any little hidden pieces that may have some significance.
I meant to say more, but I've forgotten.

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EDIT: Duplicate post.

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Megarain wrote:
Mithost wrote:
Megarain wrote:
Unless they, you know, pulled a real broadcast, spliced out some real home footage, added in their down using a blue-screen, roughed it up, and then played it back on a tv. Just saying.

My little brother's a producer, so I'm kinda versed as well.


Well then you'll know how ridiculously expensive and impractical it would be for five or six college students to pull off something of this scale; burning a building down, getting the fire department involved, hiring hundreds of extras and bringing in a fake news van.

I think sometimes people forget that MH doesn't make any money from this whole thing. And look at Alex's apartment/Brian's house. Does it look like they have the money to pull off this sort of thing?

On the other hand, I do like BranRainey's editing suggestions, involving slowing down and dubbing. That makes a lot of sense. And I agree, I don't think that they added Slendy into it. That would take mad skilz. Especially the part with the door that falls down. It doesn't look added in at all. The only way to do that is to either film it yourself or use some photoshopping type stuff that would look totally obvious. That said, I also don't honestly think it looks like Slendy. I think it looks like a concerned fireman reaching out to pull the door down. The height illusion seems to be because of normal shadowing/artifacting effects. But it doesn't look like anything supernatural.


Last I checked, he pulled it off for....50 buck, gear included? And I only meant greening in Slendy standing in the crowd. Its not that hard, when you really get down to. Sure, you won't get the absolute best results, but you know what? I think they wanted that. A rough look would be easer to muss up. The rest was likely real footage.

All this really takes is a copy of after effects and time.


All I was saying is that adding someone into a shot like that (full of movement and flashing lights, etc.) would be very hard to do. It certainly isn't impossible, but I think it's unlikely.

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the_diz wrote:
For starters, We should look at J. He might not be the first person that most people look at, but we have to consider the fact that he does lose a lot of time and does things he doesnt remember. I dont think that it is save to assume that because he loses gaps in time that he is a puppet for slenderman tho.


I think we can rule out J on this one. He's staying at a hotel, I'd imagine pretty far from his apartment, and his friend called him up and told him to turn on the news. It was a live report that he was recording on the TV, so obviously the fire was still happening while J was taping. He couldn't have been there.

I think the strongest possibilities (in order) are Masky, Slender Man, and Alex. I just find Alex coming out of nowhere all of a sudden to be kind of unlikely. For all we know, he could be dead.
And I'm going with the theory of Masky starting the fire, personally, because just two weeks ago he said "We're coming for you."

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Inusaito wrote:
Is there software that can compare two videos frame-by-frame, if there is, we could find any little hidden pieces that may have some significance.
I meant to say more, but I've forgotten.


The one thing I noticed is at 1:19 in the original news broadcast. It clearly shows 2-3 dark-clad men bent over in front of the door thing. So it wasn't someone dressed up as Slendy, it was part of an actual crew on scene, whether volunteer rescuers or police or what. Although I'm not sure that within the context of the story, that's not supposed to be Slenderman. But it's definitely not a dude dressed up like him.

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Looks like they didn't dub the audio at all, but just cut it together from what was already there. Very strange that the original news broadcast goes out of sync like that. :s (Probably an issue from whoever recorded the news footage originally and posted it on YouTube.)

(I know I'm not appreciating this entry properly, but there just isn't a whole lot to talk about and I find the production itself interesting. Razz)

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I find the production interesting as well. ^_^ The fact that they went to a hotel to film this makes me giggle. XD How long have they had it thrown together for? Were they editing it while they were there?!

Anyways, a question that I haven't seen discussed as much as 'where's Slendy?' or 'who set the blaze?':

Who is the contact that knows Jay who brought up the news?
-It could be a friend/family member not previously mentioned, in which case Jay has been keeping in contact with people and simply hasn't been mentioning them in his tweets (which makes a certain amount of sense!) In which case, there's a chance that he could have resources to draw on, or that he has been drawing on. This could explain how he's been able to stay in a hotel for so long, and why he sounds so calm -- he could be borrowing money if he doesn't have enough of his own, and he could be talking out the impact that events are having on him with people that, you know, actually care and aren't the faceless internet.

-It could be someone that we HAVE seen before: if it's Tim then we can draw the conclusion that Jay doesn't realize that Tim == Totheark/Masky. If it's Alex, Seth, Brian or Sarah, there's the indication that people who seem to have disappeared are actually waiting in the wings, which is interesting!

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Just got out of my meeting...

halfricanapo wrote:
Fiasco wrote:
This was posted on facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YebC_rftfyk

Haven't gotten a chance to watch the whole thing, in a meeting now.

Derp derp.


where on facebook did you find this?

It was posted by someone in a Marble Hornets fan page.

halfricanapo wrote:
I'm actually sort of blown away haha. This answers some questions. It looks like a door from somewhere else and the guy just knocks it over.

I definitely think they (the writers) want us to think it's Slendy. They picked that video for a reason, because that guy still just looks very large and moves very creepily. Maybe not necessarily though, because the distortions they add happen later.

Anonymous wrote:

Then the roof was added in later, we still don't know where the "home footage" came from.

I actually had my suspicions about the home video, because I'm not sure the two buildings are even the same. Granted, that's exclusively them using the resources they have, but they're definitely trying to allude to Slendy being there somewhere.

Going to get fried chicken now, I'll leave Slendy on the backburner for a while...

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BranRainey wrote:
Looks like they didn't dub the audio at all, but just cut it together from what was already there. Very strange that the original news broadcast goes out of sync like that. :s (Probably an issue from whoever recorded the news footage originally and posted it on YouTube.)

(I know I'm not appreciating this entry properly, but there just isn't a whole lot to talk about and I find the production itself interesting. Razz)

The video was posted in 2008, before youtube fixed a lot of its syncing issues. I play games like DDR/ITG and post videos online, so I've been able to see exactly where youtube will go out of sync (from step/arrow correlations) with certain files. It used to have huge problems with just uploading large avi files straight to youtube, usually converting it to wmv helped. So it was probably just the uploader. It's not an issue anymore though.

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ok are the people in the news report firemen or is that Slendy looking into the rubble?

Im a little creeped out by the fact that its supposed to be an ARG yet a building where other people who arent involved with it, was burned down.

Edit: I'll be posting a response to Entry 25 soon

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Slender freak wrote:
ok are the people in the news report firemen or is that Slendy looking into the rubble?

Im a little creeped out by the fact that its supposed to be an ARG yet a building where other people who arent involved with it, was burned down.

Edit: I'll be posting a response to Entry 25 soon


You should probably read a bit more carefully before commenting; the video posted earlier clearly shows that it was just somebody (firemen?) messing with the rubble.

Also, I don't get what you mean with the second part there, about the building burning. It was a normal old fire that they took footage of a newscast from to use. It's not like they actually burned a building.

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