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Mysterious USB drive (GKNOVA6)
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SamuelofR247
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 		IMO, it can't just be coincidence that Kryptos is a mere 288 ft from the first set of latitude/longitude coordinates. The majority of Kryptos' cipher text is Vigenere....

Mapping the first coordinates from "Eve Reign"...



Those coordinates again (red arrow) in conjunction with Kryptos (red circle) and the coordinates Kryptos contains in it's coded message (X with red circle)....



Additionally, here are some interesting facts about the coordinates described in Kryptos' cipher text....

http://kryptos.arcticus.com/coords.html

As well as other codes and clues placed here and there around the outside of CIA HQ that relate to Kryptos as well (some of which are very near the exact coordinates at the main entrance)....

http://www.elonka.com/kryptos/KryptosAerial.html

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MickeyG42
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pilferk wrote:
Bethesda says they've got nothing to do with it, FYI.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1081856p1.html

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First, a Bethesda representative confirmed to IGN this viral campaign "has nothing to do with us or anything we're doing." So we can rule out a Fallout: New Vegas tease.


you DO realize Bethesda is NOT doing Fallout Vegas right? The original company who made the fallout games is making it.

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Bender6
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 		Even though Bethesda isn't developing Fallout New Vegas, they are publishing it. While I would be a lot more excited if this was Fallout related, I'm going to take Bethesda at their word and rule out the possability.

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xDesasterx707
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Bobaganoosh wrote:
I'm not sure if it means anything but i tried to google ["don't believe everything you see" spectrum] (without the brackets, just showing the actual search term...and http://www.zuschlogin.com/?page_id=70 came up. when you scroll to the bottom there's an April 2010 post about "Singularity"

they talk about computers getting smarter than people, hadron colliders, and some sort of "future"-blog type thing... I don't have time to do any more research, but thought it was interesting that I came up with that and wanted to post it here for you guys that may have time to see if it means anything.


if you notice a it says "Don't believe everything you see on the web" but cut out on the web and you get "Don't believe everything you see" and if i remember right thats a quote inside the video.

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Bobaganoosh
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xDesasterx707 wrote:

if you notice a it says "Don't believe everything you see on the web" but cut out on the web and you get "Don't believe everything you see" and if i remember right thats a quote inside the video.


lol yeah...that's why the page came up on the google search

I searched for
'"don't believe everything you see" spectrum'

because of the ending of the audio files saying "don't believe everything you see" and "you can see the whole spectrum"

so i also tried things like "don't believe the whole spectrum" and similar combinations. that combination mentioned before led me to that site that has an April post titled "singularity" with some jibberish in it...

i tried to see if there was some sort of pattern between the AI bots in it with an order of:
123412543121234512.

that seems to be the only possible code i could find on there. the rest are just time stamps which go in order. anyway, i couldnt' find anything with that number scheme...but then again, i'm pretty sure that site was just an odd coincidence, so i didn't look very hard

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 		The "you can see the whole spectrum" line hasn't gotten a lot of attention, but I am starting to think it might be important. The "hell is purple" comment at the end of the first video led to the Purple Hell web site to help decipher the message. Makes me wonder if the spectrum line is also supposed to take us somewhere.

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SamuelofR247
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Bender6 wrote:
The "you can see the whole spectrum" line hasn't gotten a lot of attention, but I am starting to think it might be important. The "hell is purple" comment at the end of the first video led to the Purple Hell web site to help decipher the message. Makes me wonder if the spectrum line is also supposed to take us somewhere.


Hallelujah, somebody's with me! For a minute there I thought I was going crazy....

Bender, I couldn't agree more....
"Don't believe everything you see": Appears at the end of our first audio file, which did not aid us in cracking the Caesar Cipher to get WWWGKNOVACOM.

"Hell is Purple": Appears at the end of the second audio file we're given (the first channel on gknova6). Only this time this phrase towards the end of the transmission leads us directly to a place where we can decode the Bacon Cipher. I'm confident somebody would've easily cracked the Bacon Cipher without being led to a website that contained an applet for it.
Also, the first channel on gknova6.com no longer says "Hell is purple" at the end, it stopped once the second channel came about. This was as of the last time I checked yesterday anyway.....

"You can see the whole spectrum": Appears at the end of our third audio file (or second channel on gknova6). This one reverts back to the usefulness of "Don't believe everything you see", it doesn't aid us in cracking the Gronsfeld/Vigenere Cipher to get "classified announcement somd".

"You can find me at the Cheeping River, it's near the Cheering Viper" Now this one's not in audio form but it appears in just the same fashion, at the end of one of our code transmissions. This time, we've already been given "Eve Reign" before the code which is easily an anagram for Vigenere but why would we need an anagram for this type of cipher two more times? "At the Cheeping River near the Cheering Viper" has to mean more than just telling us it's the "Vigenere Cipher" over and over again....

I maintain that, IMO, there's more to this than meets the eye ("Don't believe everything you see" - no pun intended) and that it will not be conveniently handed to us if we just wait long enough........

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xDesasterx707
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 		If im right you can use a veriation to say "don't believe the whole spectrum" or "belive the visable spectrum" but i still think we are going to need 1 or so more videos to get this right.

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SamuelofR247
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 		A few interesting links when googling a few things....

When googling...

-"Whole Spectrum":

http://www.wholespectrum.biz


-"The Whole Spectrum":

http://thewholespectrum.com


-"You can see the whole spectrum":

http://www.gemsociety.org/wow/jj3.htm ...this site is the top result when googling the phrase, mainly because it contains this sentence; "You can see the whole spectrum of the rainbow when looking at white light in a spectroscope."
I then took this phrase a step further and googled "Spectroscope Cipher" and got....

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1921PASP...33....3M


Don't know what all this stuff means but interesting nonetheless and I've got A TON more things like this where that came from lol....

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Bender6
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SamuelofR247 wrote:


I maintain that, IMO, there's more to this than meets the eye ("Don't believe everything you see" - no pun intended) and that it will not be conveniently handed to us if we just wait long enough........


I do think EVENTUALLY we'll get something new to work with if we wait long enough. If this is a marketing campaign, the powers that be won't let it die because no one finds the next clue. While we wait for the next gknova6 video though, there are avenues to explore, even if the turn out to be dead ends.

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SamuelofR247
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 		GKNova6 Channel 3 is Up!
Here's all I have so far, this one goes on FOREVER.....

Quote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
*Man's Voice: "They used the earth's magnetic field x The Information was gathered and transmitted" (-Found in Kryptos' code @ the CIA Hdqtrs)

*Woman's Voice: mod (chime x4) 10 21 26 1 26 19 25 16 22 2 20 1 21 23 16 26 22 19 3

*Man's Voice: "Nothing in life is to be feared it is only to be understood, now is the time to understand more so that we may fear less" (-quote from Marie Curie)

*Woman's Voice: mod 1 0 0

*Man's Voice: "Outside of consciousness there lies the cold and alien world of actual things"

*Woman's Voice: mod

*Man's Voice: "Can't you see the whole spectrum?"

"Kenneth, what's the frequency?"

"Linear, not algorythmic"

The first part is Kryptos related that's for sure....

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 		Some additional Google searching for gknova6 part 3.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"Outside of consciousness there lies the cold and alien world of actual things" is a quote from Heinrich Hertz.


Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we are back in business.

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 		So, the consciousness quote is from Heinrich Hertz and the frequency quote from Dan Rather's attacker. The numbers can translate to
UZAZSYPVBUUWPZVSC which would obviously need more work. Frequency counting?

ETA - didn't mention the tones in the earlier post, definitely could be a code there.

ETA2 - looking at the 'whole spectrum' of the audio, this popped out (see attached).

ETA3 - And now for the big 'duh' moment - finally figured out where sputnik came from when analyzing the audio from last time (see second attachment).

ETA4 - As for the numbers read off, I get two groups:
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10 21 26 1 26 19
25 16 22 2 20 1 21 23 16 26 22 19 3

spectrum.jpg
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 Filesize   118.49KB
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spectrum.jpg
sputnik.jpg
 Description   Hi, I'm Sputnik and I was hiding in the spectrogram...
 Filesize   116.33KB
 Viewed   117 Time(s)

sputnik.jpg

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Bender6
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 		I concur with the numbers in two groups.

I'm also glad to see someone figured out what "see the spectrum" means. I think I could have been working on that one for the rest of my natural life.

Referring to the new spectrum picture, I am wondering if "Freedom = 7" is a reference to the "Freedom 7" space craft Alan Shepard piloted. Search Google for "Freedom 7" and you get this.

http://www.freedom7.com/Welcome.html

I'm not completely convinced this is related, but it is cryptic enough that it could be connected.

No idea how 5+5=10 factors in yet, part of the reason I am skeptical of www.freedom7.com.

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 		The tones seem to translate roughly to the musical notes:

G A G D G

G A G C A

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