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The Rogue Wolf wrote:
TheAtroxious wrote:
Some things noted:

1) Clicking is heard while J speaks, and also while Girlfriend records.

2) 3:25, there is an odd sound, like a growling, or digital interference. Could be ambient, but I have doubts about that, and otherwise, the background is pretty silent.

I noted these as well. Moreover, while it's a bit difficult to tell given the random timing of the tapping noise, it seems to me that they stop once the first "tear" shows up on the video.

Weird theory time: Is the tapping some sort of "Slendy sonar"? Echolocation is a trick several animals in nature use to navigate, and wouldn't it make sense for a creature with no eyes to do the same? The theory runs into some issues with Entry #7, which features a full-on view of Slender Man and no clicking. But then a second possibility reveals itself- what if the tapping is some sort of effect of Slendy being around a particular person/thing he's had interest in for long enough, audible evidence of being turned into a "beacon" like Atroxious says? The moment that camera was turned on, the tapping started, and it could have drawn Slendy right to it like chum tossed in shark-infested waters. If the camera was planted, perhaps the first bit of video was just a "let's make sure this works" run, cut short to ensure that Slendy didn't come running too soon?


I like that idea alot and it would make alot of sense. Slendy has to be able to see someway. this is assuming of course that Slendy cant see or doesnt really have a face and it isnt just that we cant see his face due to his power of distorting how it looks to us, like a sort of cloaking device. but if this is the case, i do like the idea of echolocation or some sort of sonar usage. nice new concept on the whole mythos. also if he does use some kinda of sonar then there are ways of detecting him and knowing hes coming, since sonar can be detected by certain electonic devices, and thus, maybe this is why Slendy has the power over electronics that he does, a way to protect himself from what may be his only weakness
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Dray wrote:

I think that the few shots before Amy starts chatting to Alex are perfectly legitimate things to do with a camera, when held for the first time. Seeing how it focuses on things that are near and things that are far (inside vs. outside) and then on faces (tee hee, look at me, I'm on camera~!) would be roughly the same thing that I'd do when I picked up a camera! Looking out the window doesn't seem unnatural or like an indicator that the camera is planted... at least, not in and of itself.

The fact that all of this went down on April 4th, and that Jay got a message that a package would arrive ALSO on April 4th, four hours after Alex and Amy were assaulted is what makes me think that either the camera was planted, or Alex is TTA. Or both.

I think the creators decided to do it on the 4th, and give themselves two weeks to set everything up. But in the story, yeah, I think Alex sent the text message. Two weeks seems like a long time for a tape to arrive via UPS or even the post office.


Dray wrote:
Hunter119 wrote:
Alex's camera disappeared along with Seth in Entry 22. Him seeing the camera Seth disappeared with would give him even more reason to tense up the way he did.

No, Alex has his camera (which his how he filmed the end of Entry 22, after Seth disappeared.) Seth's camera had the cool night-vision mode.

Dray wrote:
I agree, if this is Seth's camera, then it could explain why Slendy doesn't show up to Jay when Jay watches the tape. It's not necessarily the tape which causes Slendy to appear, so much as the use of that specific camera; or maybe the combination thereof? It could have been Seth's camera that was in use for the filming of Return, which is why Slendy showed up and went straight for the camera?


That's an interesting theory, but Alex said the camera was his. Of course, Alex could be just saying that to Amy.

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TheAtroxious wrote:
Okay, I got that wrong. It was the whole conversation that started from the beginning. "So when did this happen?" She seems somewhat annoyed, and her tone comes off as a bit snippy to me. Getting specific, it seems perfectly logical to say "I had an old camera from college that I put into the closet." Without knowledge of his history with that sort of thing, she seems reluctant to let the thing drop. Instead of just assuming that he forgot about the camera, she continues to bother him about that. The whole thing makes me wonder why such a tension, not only on Alex's part--that point is obvious--but also on the girl's part springs up in the conversation.


I think that whole bit with Amy goading Alex about the camera is probably because she's curious... I imagine that after that episode, Alex would probably carry some baggage that he's not willing to talk about, and chances are that Amy had figured it might have something to do with cameras; she could have brought getting a camera up in the past and he got very defensive about it!


I've had times where I was doing something by myself, and had a girlfriend try to goad me into an argument, because she thinks you're "ignoring" them. But it's probably just a plot device.

Dray wrote:
He does seem pretty genuine about not having a camera, though. He doesn't even see her with it when he says that part. The idea that it's been planted recent does seem to have some evidence to it!

SpiralStatic wrote:
I think this Entry just further proves that Tim and/or other masked people are TTA. Alex clearly wants to get on with his life, if he really wanted to help Jay he could just as easily call him up. No need for morse code, binary, and distortion. This is also assuming Alex knows what's happening to Jay. He may never have heard of MH before, for all we know.


It does seem like the camera was planted, but one reason that Alex could have been involved with all of the morse code, binary, and distortion could be to avoid drawing attention to himself. Yes, he wants to move on, but he wants to ensure that Slendy is passed on to someone else, just in case (then, oh snap, it doesn't work, after all!)

Also, a random thought: What if that freezing and glitching that we see when the camera focuses on Alex in #26 is the result of Slendy 'seeing' or recognizing him? If that's the case, what do you suppose it means when Tim's face is constantly being blurred over in #20? Is that perhaps Slendy 'seeing' him, or trying not to recognize him for some reason? Is it Tim trying not to be recognized by Slendy with his weird Masky-distortion powers?


PKthe13th wrote:
The thing that struck me the most is that that was the best Slenderman model we've had so far. The early ones were just a tall guy in a suit, but this one looked genuinely inhuman.

YES!

TheAtroxious wrote:

1) Clicking is heard while J speaks, and also while Girlfriend records.
2) 3:25, there is an odd sound, like a growling, or digital interference. Could be ambient, but I have doubts about that, and otherwise, the background is pretty silent.

See, I saw that as just normal raw video. But I guess that says more about the videos that I've recorded than anything else.

TheAtroxious wrote:

3) Also, isn't their conversation a tad odd? Girlfriend seems almost accusatory in saying "I thought we didn't have a camera". Like there was some sort of discussion they'd had before about cameras, and Girlfriend is pissed off about it. Also, her unwillingness to stop recording seemed strange, but that was probably just a plot device. Hell, I'd not be at all surprised if I'm reading way too much into the whole scene.

I'm a fan of the "Alex told Amy he didn't like cameras" theory.

TheAtroxious wrote:


*** Theory Tiem ***

I'm led to the idea that somehow Slendy can hone in on cameras. Not sure how that'd work though, but I'm guessing that a "marked" tape, that is, something showing him, or the distortion around him draws him to it. Hence why he's not stalking every amateur filmmaker out there. Of course, it takes some effort, and either luck or knowledge to be marked. With Alex, it was luck. With J, it was knowledge.

SM has a thing for Alex, that's for sure. Jay had weird stuff happen to him, but we don't see Jay looking out the window and seeing Slenderman.

TheAtroxious wrote:

I should mention that this was the best Slendy model yet.


Again, YES!

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 		obvious that the two girls are different listen to their voices ... the blonde is about a octave lower

also re : the apartment hallway footage ... clearly shot by the blonde after watching the contents of the tape on the camera screen ... shes making a lot of noise moving around doing some arbitrary recording in the place ... timewise it wouldnt add up for anyone else to have shot this footage then hidden the camera which she then immediately finds without seeing the intruder and then watches the content and then starts to film alex ... besides if the initial hallway footage had been shot by someone she would have said ' hey alex i found a camera and someones been filming our pad using it in the last 2 minutes how freaky '

this entry seems to be the connective tissue to hopefully a shift in major character to real-time alex ... old j has been trying to draw an end to his work on this project for too long

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GhostK wrote:
No, Alex has his camera (which his how he filmed the end of Entry 22, after Seth disappeared.) Seth's camera had the cool night-vision mode.


You're right, doesn't Alex mention that he woke up with the tape, while Seth and his camera were missing? What a strange thing to have happened -- why would SM go to the effort of leaving Alex with the tape that comprised #22?

I've seen some people saying that the contents at the beginning of the tape in #26 are a continuation of what we've seen from #22. How does that work, if Alex didn't have a camera on him at the time? It seems to me that either the tape contents had to have been from another outing, or else TTA cut some of the content from #22 and moved it over to this new tape. o.o I'm confused!

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 		Dray: I know Alex has something on the wall saying "Kills Me" in entry 11 I think it is. But my theory about how "Helps Me" would fit in is that Alex didn't know much about Slenderman at the time, so he assumed he was evil. Then Slendy did something to help him, so he started writing "Helps Me". Another explanation is that Alex had a nightmare where Slenderman killed him, and based it on that.

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 		Heh, I suspected the whole echolocation thing since I first heard it, but, iono, that seems to be a bit of a useless detail to put in. I mean, I'd not mind if that were the case, but the idea of Slendy using echolocation to track things and/or people seems a bit superfluous, and it makes me wonder why they'd put it in so frequently if it was more or less a background detail.

Another theory I read was that it was Morse code, but I have no idea where to even begin with that, and I'm not sure if anyone's looked any further into it. I'm pretty terrible with audio myself, but I am curious to know about this.

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 		I'm not digging the echolocation theory. It could be what the Marble hornets guys are trying to portray, but for echo location to work, don't you need some orifice to produce the clicks?

I think that the electro-sensing thing that sharks do (and can be defeated, as was shown on that episode of Mythbusters) would make more sense, and possibly tie in with the distortion that happens when Slenderman appears.

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GhostK wrote:
I'm not digging the echolocation theory. It could be what the Marble hornets guys are trying to portray, but for echo location to work, don't you need some orifice to produce the clicks?

I think that the electro-sensing thing that sharks do (and can be defeated, as was shown on that episode of Mythbusters) would make more sense, and possibly tie in with the distortion that happens when Slenderman appears.
My thought was always that he purposefully did that to either hide, or just as a defensive thing. However the radiation theory also seems to fit well.

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 		Ok, dunno if this was pointed out and I don't feel like sifting through 23 pages of commentary, but if you notice the first time the camera is turned on in the house the person holding it moves slowly, and as we can see from the shadow, almost awkwardly, army-marching style. (Look at how they walk. Weird.)

The focus on the camera is also wack and notably fuzzy - which may imply as far as editing goes a moment of confusion. Also, there's no entrance to the house on-camera, door or window. My theory is that either TTA/Masky or (unlikely but who knows) Slenderman pulled a teleportation gig to plant the camera in the house without even coming in a door, because we also get a transition in filming style as soon as Blondie picks it up. It's jerky and amateur, not slow and blurry.

The better question is who is asking for help - or leading Jay into a trap.

And also I'm still in the boat for TTA being Tim. Guy gives me the creeps.

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 		Personally, I think Alex and Tim share the TTA account (it accounts for differences in video styles) and Tim being Masky, Alex's lackey. Tim could be spying on Jay for Alex, perhaps in an attempt to pawn Slendy off on Jay.

I'm just a little confused about how Alex would be able to get Tim to do all this for him (possible arson, assault, trespassing, etc.). I suppose that's the flaw in the theory. But then again, what would Tim's motivation in being TTA be?

They both have the exact flaw... hmm, interesting.

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 		Or, there is the one thing we never considered. TTA/Masky (depending on if you think they are one or two) could be people having nothing to do with marble hornets. They could just have Tim doing the acting for that little thing I recall Alex using, "...the sake of convenience..."

Not saying this is my view on it, just trying to rule out all plausible ideas.

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 		Something just occured to me: Ockham's Razor.

What if Alex really just forgot he had the camera? He's been gone a while, it's not unlikely that some stuff would get lost in whatever place he moved to.

And as the past has shown us, in Marble Hornets, the simplest solution is often the right one.

Hmm... or MAYBE that is the camera that Alex uses for the TTA videos. (Assuming they're one and the same, of course)

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SticktheFigure wrote:
Or, there is the one thing we never considered. TTA/Masky (depending on if you think they are one or two) could be people having nothing to do with marble hornets. They could just have Tim doing the acting for that little thing I recall Alex using, "...the sake of convenience..."

Not saying this is my view on it, just trying to rule out all plausible ideas.


I'd like to think if that were the case, they'd have at least made an effort to put him in different clothes. Honestly, they're not that lazy.

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Aerokinetic wrote:
Something just occured to me: Ockham's Razor.

What if Alex really just forgot he had the camera? He's been gone a while, it's not unlikely that some stuff would get lost in whatever place he moved to.

And as the past has shown us, in Marble Hornets, the simplest solution is often the right one.

Hmm... or MAYBE that is the camera that Alex uses for the TTA videos. (Assuming they're one and the same, of course)


its simple but doesnt make sense, Ockham's razor would probably be, TTA/masky, planting the camera with the tape. its simple and works

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
Aerokinetic wrote:
Something just occured to me: Ockham's Razor.

What if Alex really just forgot he had the camera? He's been gone a while, it's not unlikely that some stuff would get lost in whatever place he moved to.

And as the past has shown us, in Marble Hornets, the simplest solution is often the right one.

Hmm... or MAYBE that is the camera that Alex uses for the TTA videos. (Assuming they're one and the same, of course)


its simple but doesnt make sense, Ockham's razor would probably be, TTA/masky, planting the camera with the tape. its simple and works

Not necessarily.

It could be that if Alex thought he got rid of all the tapes and the camera, but really just forgot he had it. It covers more of the facts than someone planting it. I'm definitely not counting the plant idea out, but I'm just saying that we can't rule the simple out just because it's simple.

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