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morscata12
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 		Basic Analysis of the Timeline/Entry
I understand the general idea of that text message. Someone saw the SM destruction and realized J should get in on this. So they send a text message with an approximation of when J should expect the tape. But it's not as simple as "Alex escapes from Slenderman and pops J a text".

Alex doesn't have J's number
J received the message on his iPhone - released in 2007. The last time he saw Alex was in 2006 - so J changed his number since then. If Alex sent the text, he'd need J's new number first. My guess: Alex got the new number that day. Alex was trying to stay away from SM stuff, and would NOT track down J's phone number (since J owns all his old tapes). Plus, there's a three hour gap between the event and the text - plenty of time to sort things out and get J's new number.

The tape was sent to J via overnight delivery
J got the package on Sunday, which usually only happens for overnight deliveries (not 100% sure about that point). More importantly, J's location is unpredictable. He's on the run, and moved at least once between the 4th and 18th. Also, consider his reaction to a specific date. He's on the run from people who track him down, so the days before the 18th will be extremely unpredictable. The ONLY way to get the package to J reliably is overnight delivery.

So why did it take two weeks?
Only a few hours after the event, with tape in hand, the sender of the text message buys himself/herself two extra weeks. But why? The most obvious reason is that something needed to be done first before getting J to travel to Alex's house.

Someone added new footage on the beginning/end of the tape after April 4th
After the SM attack, someone added footage to the tape. How do I know this? Amy describes the footage as static, not creepy. Plus, the clips are all stylistically consistent (and inconsistent with the static and attack footage).

Nothing was digitally added to the tape
The "Help" clip at the end is actually footage of a wall with "Help" drawn on it (obviously, the hue was changed). When the footage clips up, you can see a rough pattern in the lower left-hand corner. This is important, as it means everything on the tape was filmed after the fact.

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 		Warning: this post contains all the speculation that is probably not true at all. I separated it from my more enjoyable post for aesthetic reasons.

What does the footage tell us?

1) The camera is still a resource. Alex and crew used the camera for unknown reasons during the two weeks of prep time.

2) Slenderman teleported twice in this entry - once at timestamp 4:04, and once at timestamp 4:34. We don't get to see the results of the second teleportation, though it may have been a controlled test.

3) "New Masky" is Amy wearing a mask. Why is it a new mask? Because that's all they had around the house. Think about it: Tim wears a theater mask, and he is a drama student. It's not like Tim went shopping after Slendy showed up. The closest thing someone like Amy would have around the house would be that "Dia De Los Muertos" party mask. It's goofy, but it gets the job done.

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morscata12 wrote:

3) "New Masky" is Amy wearing a mask. Why is it a new mask? Because that's all they had around the house. Think about it: Tim wears a theater mask, and he is a drama student. It's not like Tim went shopping after Slendy showed up. The closest thing someone like Amy would have around the house would be that "Dia De Los Muertos" party mask. It's goofy, but it gets the job done.


Now THAT's an interesting theory. If Alex knew of the protective properties of putting on a mask (if that even is the reason for Masky's mask), I can imagine he'd try and protect Amy first.

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JKatkina wrote:
xxxblindxxx wrote:
Aerokinetic wrote:
Something just occured to me: Ockham's Razor.

What if Alex really just forgot he had the camera? He's been gone a while, it's not unlikely that some stuff would get lost in whatever place he moved to.

And as the past has shown us, in Marble Hornets, the simplest solution is often the right one.

Hmm... or MAYBE that is the camera that Alex uses for the TTA videos. (Assuming they're one and the same, of course)


its simple but doesnt make sense, Ockham's razor would probably be, TTA/masky, planting the camera with the tape. its simple and works


I actually agree with Aero on this one, though at first I thought the tape just HAD to be planted. The logistics of TTA taking off into the blue yonder with a tape and camera, sneaking into Alex's place and leaving them somewhere where his lady friend would find them... is actually a lot more complex than Alex simply having a case of the forgettin'. (Especially given that his memory at the time he took off was glitchy at best.)

I mean, TTA planting the tape might still make sense from a narrative point of view, but it don't have Occam's Razor on its side.

Good point, but I find it slightly implausible that Alex could have that camera in his closet (or some place where his girlfriend could find it) for three years, and neither he nor his girlfriend would notice it until then, especially since Alex expressed reluctance to even get a camera.
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 		Thought time: What if this is a wild goose chase? We all know slender man distorts time with his warping, so what's to say the whole date on the video isn't distorted? This could just be something TTA found and or had from three years ago. Likely: No Plausible: Hardly Possible: Hells yeah
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Dray wrote:
celticsfan87 wrote:
Dray: I know Alex has something on the wall saying "Kills Me" in entry 11 I think it is. But my theory about how "Helps Me" would fit in is that Alex didn't know much about Slenderman at the time, so he assumed he was evil. Then Slendy did something to help him, so he started writing "Helps Me". Another explanation is that Alex had a nightmare where Slenderman killed him, and based it on that.


Either that, or the Skully mask could have something to do with it. Looks like we were seeing that through a peep hole, perhaps Skully helps him? I find it hard to believe that Slendy is more likely to be helpful!

You know, when the theory first arose that wearing a mask actually helps you evade Slendy, I didn't think much of it, but this lends credence. Maybe it's something to do with the fact that Slendy doesn't have a face, so if yours is covered...

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The focus on the camera is also wack and notably fuzzy - which may imply as far as editing goes a moment of confusion. Also, there's no entrance to the house on-camera, door or window. My theory is that either TTA/Masky or (unlikely but who knows) Slenderman pulled a teleportation gig to plant the camera in the house without even coming in a door, because we also get a transition in filming style as soon as Blondie picks it up. It's jerky and amateur, not slow and blurry.


Welp, we know that Brian's house has a closet that Masky seemed to live in, and to dump Jay into as well. Amy found that camera in her closet. Maybe Masky hopped closets to plant the evidence and then hopped back?

A while back, we were speculating that Slendy might not be the only one with the powers to make doors go wonky. Heck, that ability's not even in the SM mythos, maybe TTA is the only one who can open portals.

In any case, planting a camera doesn't seem like Slendy's MO, but if he is the only one who can open portals... well, the tape did have a return address on it, which means TTA can get there, and we know he can get into places.

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I'm just a little confused about how Alex would be able to get Tim to do all this for him (possible arson, assault, trespassing, etc.). I suppose that's the flaw in the theory. But then again, what would Tim's motivation in being TTA be?


If Masky's weird enough to break in and creep on Jay in his sleep, as well as upload threatening videos to his account, it could just be that he's crazy. Hanging around Slendy for that long'll probably fry the old brain circuits!

Ah, but as Shakespeare taught us, there is often method in madness.

We do know that even if Timasky (my new nickname for Tim/Masky) isn't TTA, he's definitely buddies with TTA, and given that the pills vanished, I doubt they're just to fight off the cough that Slendy gives you.

Now, given that the camera was almost certainly planted... if it was done by TTA, that means Alex isn't TTA, in fact, Alex is just another pawn. I doubt Amy is in on it either.

So, if Timasky isn't working alone, that means the other one is Brian, Seth or Sarah. My money's on Seth or Sarah, Brian would be a bit too obvious.

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Sylocat wrote:
and given that the pills vanished, I doubt they're just to fight off the cough that Slendy gives you.

Perhaps they're anti-psychotics.

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Aerokinetic wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
and given that the pills vanished, I doubt they're just to fight off the cough that Slendy gives you.

Perhaps they're anti-psychotics.


If that's the case they don't seem to be working too well.

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Aerokinetic wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
and given that the pills vanished, I doubt they're just to fight off the cough that Slendy gives you.

Perhaps they're anti-psychotics.

I know its pretty much irrelevant but assuming Tim is Masky, then he needs to get a stronger prescription.

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 		Man, if Brian wound up being TTA, I think that that'd throw 100% of the audience for a loop. He's the one guy that we've discounted as being "MIA, the end!" Seth's had speculation, Sarah comes in close second, but Brian is always 'too obvious' or else he just hasn't shown up enough to warrant any thought.

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 		Re: Basic Analysis of the Timeline/Entry
morscata12 wrote:

Alex doesn't have J's number
J received the message on his iPhone - released in 2007. The last time he saw Alex was in 2006 - so J changed his number since then.

You can get a new phone, and keep the old number. Granted, changing phone numbers is something paranoid people do, but unless there's some tweet that I didn't see, that said "Got a new phone number" I don't see any basis to this speculation.

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 		I'm also thinking that if Jay found the package just before he was about to leave, it probably wasn't delivered overnight to Jay. It could have been in TTA's possession as early as the 4th, packaged in an old box that was made to look as though it'd been through the mail. All the more reason to suspect a trap!

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 		In all the debate over if the camera was planted or forgotten for three years, i think everyone is missing the obvious. Dont you think its way too big a coincidence that Jay got the text saying hed recieve the tape from that very same camera on the 18th and they just happened to find said camera in time for the Slendy attack and the tape to be sent to him on the 18th. i would say that just about proves the camera would have to have been planted. its the only way to ensure that camera is found in time to be used as it was planned. i just think it stretches credulity to think they just happened to find it in time for the tape to be made and sent to Jay when it was said it would be.
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Sylocat wrote:

Good point, but I find it slightly implausible that Alex could have that camera in his closet (or some place where his girlfriend could find it) for three years, and neither he nor his girlfriend would notice it until then, especially since Alex expressed reluctance to even get a camera.

If I've lived in my town for three years, and I've got a girlfriend there, does that mean we've been together all three of those years? Smile Heh, I mean I guess maybe Alex is just such a certifiable badass that upon moving into a new town, the mayor presents him with a new girlfriend...

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 		Badass or no, she sounds like she's been hanging around him long enough that she's moved in with him (or vice versa) -- 'WE don't have a camera.' I'm still thinking that, having a camera packed in a box, one could plausibly not look in that box for three years. April 4th was a Sunday -- it could be that Amy was having a lazy day and decided to go through some much needed spring cleaning.

Not that I'd expect guys to think about that. >;P

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