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What is the Ark?
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xxxblindxxx
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i think the ark is an item/person/location we have yet to be introduced to. it has played a big part so far but unless alex is the ark, i dont see anything right now being the ark. tim has always been my prize pick for TTA/MM

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Dray wrote:
I do like this, however there's a couple of weak points to it that make it questionable: First, how did Tim manage to plant the tape if he didn't know Alex's location? Secondly, if he did manage to find out Alex's location (either through his ability to plant the tape, or else involvement with getting said tape to Jay after the fact), why not just go there himself? Why involve Jay in the way that he did, on the day that he did? Why the two week lag?

Perhaps this could be partially solved when warping is brought into the mix...?


Yeah, there are definitely big stinky holes in the theory! Maybe you're right about the warping thing. Maybe Tim has the powar of warp doors, but it's more a relational thing, with the ability to say 'I want a warp door in Alex's house' without actually knowing where in the world Alex's house is. But then finding out by luring Jay there seems way too freaking roundabout, as opposed to say, looking through Alex's mail for his address.

Maybe Tim had some sort of knowledge of the final tape some other way; maybe he either knew or strongly suspected that Alex had kept one last tape. Then either way he wins -- either he manages to burn all the tapes when he burns down Jay's place and then there's no ark and no need to find the ark, or he burns down Jay's place, Slendy makes the jump to the 'ark', Alex reaches out to Jay and Tim gets to tag along for the ride.

The idea that maybe there's another Masky in on all of this could lend credence to that theory, especially if that IS blonde hair around Skully (which is what it looks like to me, even after repeated viewings, unless that IS an image through a peephole in which case it looks less like hair). Maybe Skully found the tape much longer ago but waited until Masky had burned Jay's tapes to bring it out and summon Slendy on over for tea. In which case Amy's one fiercely good actress with that scream-and-run-about bit... and then we have another plothole in that Tim could have gotten Alex's new address from Amy, were they in cahoots! So this is all just wild speculation and probably not the case.

It's more likely that Tim was making a wild guess that Alex still had a tape, and functioning under that assumption.

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I'm still on page 9 of the #26 thread, so I may be repeating things. I'm trying to catch up but it's such a bad time of the year for sitting on my ass and wasting hours to speculate! Damn you, MH crew, for the bad timing!

Love the 'Skully' description for the new mask, on a random note... how very X-Files...

It's so hard to say for sure about what's going on. It's interesting that Tim might have suspected about the tape; we've guessed that his memories are better than the rest, and memory loss/mind fuckery have been such a strong point of the series. Maybe it could be that Tim was the only one that strongly suspected/knew that Alex had the tape (perhaps he planted it with Alex's things before Alex moved away, even?) and Alex legitimately didn't have any recollection of the camera or the tape all this time. I don't know... we've seen Masky/TTA demonstrate strange abilities to fuzz camera recordings almost by presence alone. In #19 we see evidence that Jay was made to forget his trip to Brian's house (we see him not remembering anything dealing with hanging around with Tim in #17 and #20, too!) So... maybe Masky/TTA had managed to have Alex ignore and then forget about the camera whenever he looked in his closet?

(Did all of that make any sense?)

In summary: Perhaps Masky knew more about the tape/video camera than you're giving credit for, without also knowing the whereabouts of Alex.

I still find it odd that the 'HELP(X)' would be written by Alex after the attack. There's no timestamp on it, even if it is written in nearly exactly the same style as Alex's old notes. Maybe it was added some time after that close encounter?

Running around in circles on this one, now! Must bear down and read through the #26 thread lest it get even more away from me!

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Anarth wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
The operator symbol most likely means: film at your own risk, slendy dislikes being captured on video. ⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗⊗


O_O Wow. I'm a happy puppy. I've always wanted that symbol... but how did you do that?

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My theory about the ark - the ark is alex's camera.

ark
NOUN:
1. often Ark Bible The chest containing the Ten Commandments written on stone tablets, carried by the Hebrews during their desert wanderings. Also called Ark of the Covenant.
2. often Ark Judaism The Holy Ark.
3. Bible The boat built by Noah for survival during the Flood.
4. Nautical A large, commodious boat.
5. A shelter or refuge.
ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English, from Old English arc, from Germanic *arca, from Latin arca, chest


Think of the tapes as being the ten commandments - solid, hard proof of Slendy's existence, which either irks Slendy or draws his attention (as he's likely attracted to people who know about him). Thus, the Ark would be the camera - which, like the Ark of the Covenant, has been granted some supernatural properties due to it's involvement with the outright supernatural (possibly actually caused by Slendy working his magic on it while it was recording).

On a side note .... I don't think that Alex would have left that camera (or any camera) lying around his apartment ... much less with one of the tapes in it. I believe that camera is also the camera that filmed 'the return' and whoever filmed that planted it in Alex's home. This may have been Masky/TTA ... in which case my entire Ark theory may be out the window (why would they want to be led to it if they had access to it?), or it may have been a third party (further evidenced by the new mask at the beginning of it).

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I think the tapes are "the ark." Quite simply, the tapes hold the proof that Slenderman is real. Slenderman wants the tapes gone, maybe got Masky to do it. Whatever.

Anyway, when Jay left, would he take the tapes? Probably not, since he might have kept them at his old place to get them out of his mind. Then, his entire apartment burned to the ground. Why? To keep the tapes from being put out again. The evidence is gone, Slenderman has no reason to terrorize anyone ever again, until Amy found the last remaining tape that someone overlooked. Or someone put there. Anyway, when Amy found it, Slenderfriend found this out somehow, so he took action, which was why he was there. Finally, Slenderman either destroyed the tape or took the two somewhere to get rid of their memory, possibly both.

The only reason Slenderman started the whole fiasco was he was just chillaxin, being a badass motherfucker and tall and shit, and then Alex was all like "oh shit let's film over there guys" and Slenderman is all like "hey fuckers back the fuck up" but he can't talk so he couldn't do anything, then he figured out they were filming, so he was trying to get the tapes back and the whole idea of his existence out of the crew's memories. so. yeah. that's why everyone went missing, why jay's memory is fucked up until he left, etc.

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MikauTheFlower wrote:

Anyway, when Jay left, would he take the tapes? Probably not, since he might have kept them at his old place to get them out of his mind. Then, his entire apartment burned to the ground. Why? To keep the tapes from being put out again. The evidence is gone, Slenderman has no reason to terrorize anyone ever again, until Amy found the last remaining tape that someone overlooked. Or someone put there. Anyway, when Amy found it, Slenderfriend found this out somehow, so he took action, which was why he was there. Finally, Slenderman either destroyed the tape or took the two somewhere to get rid of their memory, possibly both.


I agree to this. The only evidence of his existing is in those tapes. He can easily get rid of the memories. But tapes are harder.
Tims very presence screws the videos up, and we saw in entry 20. He walks into the house, the tape goes mental and it continues doing so while he's there.

I had a thought about the Masks. Theres 4, yes?



What if its one for each missing person? Long shot. But its how my brain works after scaring the crap out of my friends with Masky pictures after she's watched all 44 in one sitting.

[Note: I've actually be calling out newest Masky, Grinner. >.>; ]

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I'm 99% certain that those first three are the same masks, with different levels of blurring distortion applied to them.

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JKatkina wrote:
I'm 99% certain that those first three are the same masks, with different levels of blurring distortion applied to them.


QFT

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JKatkina wrote:
I'm 99% certain that those first three are the same masks, with different levels of blurring distortion applied to them.


I don't think it is. They'll all different shapes. Look at the eyes. all different.

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Anarth wrote:
JKatkina wrote:
I'm 99% certain that those first three are the same masks, with different levels of blurring distortion applied to them.


I don't think it is. They'll all different shapes. Look at the eyes. all different.


The eyes of the third one down have no significant difference in shape than classicMasky; just a difference in blurriness and thus size. The first one looks kind of like an alien or something, I'll grant, but that can be accounted for by the tilt of the mask downwards a touch.

Also, if they wanted us to believe there were several masks earlier on, they would have made it quite clear, like they did with skully here, rather than with oblique, ambiguous reference like two fuzzed-out but only subtly different masks.

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I have to agree with JKat, there is nothing to indicate that they are different - just different angles, levels of blur, filters and shades.

The final mask is obviously drastically different. It may indicate another person joining Masky's cause (whatever that may be), or it could indicate someone standing up to Masky.

As for what the Ark is. Who bloody knows!
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distilled wrote:
I have to agree with JKat, there is nothing to indicate that they are different - just different angles, levels of blur, filters and shades.

The final mask is obviously drastically different. It may indicate another person joining Masky's cause (whatever that may be), or it could indicate someone standing up to Masky.

As for what the Ark is. Who bloody knows!


Grinner/skully def is different. And blonde. I think it could be Amy.

THB, We'll probably never know till later if theres different maskys apart from Grinner. :/

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why would amy come out of no where and be like hey you masky guy. i want in. im making my own mask. its so much better. like my hair with it? like totally

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
why would amy come out of no where and be like hey you masky guy. i want in. im making my own mask. its so much better. like my hair with it? like totally


Well yeah, we have no idea why that would happen, but that doesn't necessarily mean it couldn't happen. Isn't that almost the point of this series?

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