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Do you trust Tim?
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Jordan
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Do you trust Tim?

Do you trust Tim?

Personally, I can't shake off the feeling that he's manipulating Jay for Hoody somehow. Yes, his back story is heart wrenching and yes, Sutton is pretty (admit it, some of you fellahs are confused, he's that good looking Smile)

Yes, there was entry #55 where Hoody took and Tim reverted back to his Masky personality and Tim's look of desperation was geninue, but then, whose to say Hoody might have felt that things weren't progressing far enough with Jay and felt that drastic steps needed to be taken (or whose to say their alliance isn't out of desperation and that he really doesn't care all that much about Tim?) ?

What do you think?

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Kraehtot
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I have truly trusted him always, and I thought the "He is a LIAR" thing was a way of Hoody trying to be payed attention and wanting Jay to know Tim's past, not as if Tim was telling lies deliberately. But the last Entry has made me doubt, because of that tape. Once again I think it may be something Tim doesn't remember at all, so I'm giving him a presumption of innocence until he is proven to be a liar.
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Craig Digsby
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For the most part, I trust him. I do however believe that it's possible he could be hiding something from Jay.

In Entry #72, he quickly directed Jay to the top pocket of his bag as he was about to put those papers into the bottom pocket. At first I thought it was nothing. But now, looking back at it, there might have been something in the bag that he didn't want Jay to see (his mask?).

There's also that tape in his house. Is it his? Does he know it's there?

There's just something about Tim that makes me feel uneasy. I can't put my finger on it. Oh well. It's probably just me.
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AdamRPendleton
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I'm not sure if anybody has seen my posts on other threads, but I think the most interesting and thought provoking direction Marble Hornets could go for the ending is making Tim the main bad guy. There is so many clues I feel pointing towards this conclusion, but for most, his beauty and magnificence blinds us to see him as anything other than perfect.

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Craig Digsby
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AdamRPendleton wrote:
I'm not sure if anybody has seen my posts on other threads, but I think the most interesting and thought provoking direction Marble Hornets could go for the ending is making Tim the main bad guy. There is so many clues I feel pointing towards this conclusion, but for most, his beauty and magnificence blinds us to see him as anything other than perfect.


Main villain? Don't we already have tall, pale and faceless for that?
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device
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Sometimes I get a sneaking suspicicion that this whole series of events was triggered by something Tim did or experienced when he was a child.
I forget which entry, but he did mention this possibility to Jay once.

Guilt-ridden, he's been running from it ever since - after accidently dragging friends and acquaintances into this mess.

It seemes pretty obvious he's still not revealing everything to Jay. This does not necessarily make him villian material, however.

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CenturyChild
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Craig Digsby wrote:
For the most part, I trust him. I do however believe that it's possible he could be hiding something from Jay.

In Entry #72, he quickly directed Jay to the top pocket of his bag as he was about to put those papers into the bottom pocket. At first I thought it was nothing. But now, looking back at it, there might have been something in the bag that he didn't want Jay to see (his mask?).

There's also that tape in his house. Is it his? Does he know it's there?

There's just something about Tim that makes me feel uneasy. I can't put my finger on it. Oh well. It's probably just me.


Hi, I'm a lurker who finally decided to join. Figured this would be as good a place as any to start. Smile

I totally agree. Tim's always had a special place in my heart, initially because of Masky, and then because of all the horrible shit he had to go through in the 60s Entries. But I'll admit that even I'm not sure about him.

I was more worried about him before #72, because I felt that the only reason Jay and Tim were working together was because they had some common enemies. However, I think that Tim feels genuine empathy for Jay. God knows the Operator has made him suffer, and while he might be emotionally cool in general, the particular subject of mental illness/Slender-sickness may tug at his heart-strings a bit.

I still think it's plausible that Tim is hiding something from Jay. In fact, I'm wondering if the tape isn't a continuation of the footage from TTA's "Return" (which would explain the flash of "RETURN" at the beginning of the video).

It's important to remember that just because Tim might be hiding something doesn't mean he has any ill will towards Jay. In fact, considering Jay's weaker state of mind, Tim might be trying to protect him from information that would completely destroy him psychologically. Though it doesn't explain why Hoody's so obsessed with him.

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Geneaux486
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human therefore no

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AdamRPendleton
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Craig Digsby wrote:
AdamRPendleton wrote:
I'm not sure if anybody has seen my posts on other threads, but I think the most interesting and thought provoking direction Marble Hornets could go for the ending is making Tim the main bad guy. There is so many clues I feel pointing towards this conclusion, but for most, his beauty and magnificence blinds us to see him as anything other than perfect.


Main villain? Don't we already have tall, pale and faceless for that?


Main villain as in how device mentioned that he could be the cause of all of this happening, and yeah, who knows, maybe he's playing everyone for some devious personal reason.

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Lheai
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I trust him. I think that, yes, it's entirely plausible that he might be hiding something from Jay, but I think that he still has good intentions toward Jay-- if he IS hiding something incriminating, I think it's probably more something that he's ashamed of than something that he's hiding simply because he wants Jay to trust him, or because he wants to seem like the victim. Honestly, I do think he's hiding something, but I don't think it's because he has bad intentions toward Jay, or because he has some master plan to sacrifice him to Tall 'n' Skinny, or murder him in his sleep. He's done too much to help/protect Jay, and he's forgiven him too many times (because let's face it, Jay can be a real idiot sometimes). With all the stuff that Tim's been through already, I doubt he would have dealt with Jay for this long if he really wanted him dead or "gone"d.

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Gante
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I trust Tim not to betray Jay. It's true that Trosephim are deliberately maintaining an air of danger and ambiguity about him, but if he wanted to kill Jay, or sacrifice him to the Operator, he's already had plenty of chances. If there's a gun in his backpack, it's for Alex. Recall that in entry 18, Masky didn't attack Jay until Jay called him by the hated name "Alex."

Also (although I'm on somewhat thinner ice here) Tim 's ultimate goal is a normal life. He wants to hold onto his humanity, and comradeship is part of that. He isn't alone anymore, and that means something to him.

I trust Tim not to betray Jay...but I don't completely trust Jay not to betray Tim.

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quietperson17
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I don't think Tim is a bad guy. I think I know what he might be hiding....

He knows that Jay has a masky-like personality. Jay may have been the one to burn down his own apartment (or Tim/masky did to cover it up?). Tim may've been hiding Jay's mask in his bag. Also, Jay's blackouts and habit of waking up in a new place is when he recovered from his masky state.

'HE IS A LIAR' could refer to Tim keeping secrets from Jay or Jay being an (possibly unintentional) unreliable narrator.

Or i'm overthinking things. I'm gonna look for more overlooked hints that could fit the theory.

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Beidah
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Geneaux486 wrote:
human therefore no


Wait, are you secretly TTA?

At this point, I trust Tim a little more than I trust Jay. I think he might be hiding something, but not out of ill-intention.
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MDHDZN
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If Tim knew that he had an alternate personality, wouldn't he just detroy the mask? He has to be hiding something from Jay. Perhaps the 'He is a liar' message is referring to Tim, and Tim lied about his childhood at the hospital just to bring Jay back there to kill him, having TO take care of the body, only to have Hoody intervene by showing up.

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Marble Hornets
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Ironically, I don't fully trust anyone with the exception of Hoody/totheark.

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