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Dagada
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The "Count Down" and "Carol" references may link to the UK TV show "Countdown" which was co-hosted by Carol Vorderman for many years. This show was filmed in Leeds for Yorkshire TV, although I doubt that has relevance. The main host was Richard Whiteley. Terrestrial Four will relate to the fact the show was on Channel 4.

The show is now hosted by Jeff Stelling and Rachael Riley.

For those who've not seen it, it was a show based around maths and word puzzles, mainly focused around variants of anagrams. It was famous for it's "Countdown Conundrum".

A little searching.... There's a Whiteley's shopping centre in Queensway, London....

Here's Richard Whiteley's Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Whiteley

And here's where he went to school - There was an eclipse viewed from there..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giggleswick_School

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Dagada wrote:
The "Count Down" and "Carol" references may link to the UK TV show "Countdown" which was co-hosted by Carol Vorderman for many years. This show was filmed in Leeds for Yorkshire TV, although I doubt that has relevance. The main host was Richard Whiteley. Terrestrial Four will relate to the fact the show was on Channel 4.

The show is now hosted by Jeff Stelling and Rachael Riley.

For those who've not seen it, it was a show based around maths and word puzzles, mainly focused around variants of anagrams. It was famous for it's "Countdown Conundrum".

A little searching.... There's a Whiteley's shopping centre in Queensway, London....

Here's Richard Whiteley's Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Whiteley

And here's where he went to school - There was an eclipse viewed from there..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giggleswick_School


Nice catch! That has to be the right answer.
Wikipedia wrote:
1927 Eclipse

The grounds of Giggleswick School (near the Chapel) were selected as the official observation post for the 1927 solar eclipse and thus Sir Frank Watson Dyson, the Astronomer Royal, was blessed with a wonderful view of the flaming corona of the sun through the whole 23 seconds of its total eclipse.


Giggleswick is where Dyson watched an eclipse near 1930, which is what P has been trying to get out of us.

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jessie1326 wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:
1927 Eclipse

The grounds of Giggleswick School (near the Chapel) were selected as the official observation post for the 1927 solar eclipse and thus Sir Frank Watson Dyson, the Astronomer Royal, was blessed with a wonderful view of the flaming corona of the sun through the whole 23 seconds of its total eclipse.


Giggleswick is where Dyson watched an eclipse near 1930, which is what P has been trying to get out of us.
Obviously. Great catch! Can't believe I was so focused on the 1919 eclipse I ignored the fact there was another in 1927, what with the 1930 clue and everything.

Countdown does sound like a probable solution as well. Quite a lot of clues agree with it.

Edit: Screw that, I missed the connection between the two. I need to read stuff over several times before I post..
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Dagada wrote:
And here's where he (Richard Whiteley)went to school - There was an eclipse viewed from there..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giggleswick_School


Worshippy Super props for the find and for the above Wiki link with the right eclipse/Dyson info, Dagada.

Poeas said in her last rhyme (prev. page) that she now "plans alone it seems" yet I reckon she would fancy hearing that even just one of us got her cryptic clue. Someone should keep an eye on her anyway, Dagada. Laughing

ETA:Giggleswick School Chapel that "incorporates an unusual copper dome" is beautiful (PHOTO) & worrying FB convo starts:

Claire Hoskyns wrote:
I'm not really with it today. I had a text from V

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Dagada
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Been chatting with Claire about V, and that I'm meeting her. (although I've not given any direct statements as to where and when I did encrypt a message about the meet which I think she's not interpreted)

I asked how to spot the real V, and if there was anything I could ask to confirm who she was. This is what Claire replied.

Quote:
Re: vanessa, not herself...
You're braver than me!! As for V she's taller than me and pretty skinny (bitch!!! lol) and she has curly hair.

If you can will you ask her



111


any ideas?

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Dagada
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Just got this followup...

Quote:
Sorry must have knocked to send. Yeah if you do see her can you ask if she knew about my kidnap. and if she knows I'm on the run now because of her ministry


I hope the first isn't an indication of ministry monitoring....

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Claire mentioned on FB that it's keeps saying she has 1 message, 1 friend request and 1 update.... 111 again. Perhaps V's headaches and feeling odd are linked to Claire also feeling odd and the interruptions in comms? The Ning is down as well.
That said, I'm going to be mostly off line over the next couple of days due to Uni work assessments.
Brilliant catch on the Countdown reference.

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Sirannon
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Awesome catch! It seems I might be away the next few days (as I have been recently) as well- my health kinda got slammed in the face with a sledgehammer. I'll try to be around as much as I can, though.

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Dagada
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For those with eyes to see, I've uploaded a few interesting views of Greenwich up to my facebook page. A few pics from the observatory, a few from the Maratime Museum and the outside of The Queen's House. There's also a view across Greenwich taken from the observatory which shows how close everything is.

Any of you coming to visit London, take a day out to visit here. It's very good, free, and it is likely you will see a duck.

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Dagada
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Battery on phone low, but I survived! I've met V, and return bearing gifts....

More soon, once I'm charged up again.

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Ok. So, those following me on facebook might have noticed a few odd things going on today. Basically, after uploading some of the Greenwich images I received a phonecall warning me I was being watched and telling me to be careful. Not wanting to compromise the meeting place, I lay down a false trail hinting I was meeting at Canary Wharf, then using a couple of images of places to give them something to search for over there. Thing is, both photos are of places in Edinburgh so they'd be searching for a while!!

I was supposed to meet V at the Queen's House, but due to certain naughty security guards locking the gates the meeting was relocated at the last minute to the base of Observatory Hill.

There sat V, a pretty young lady, clearly anxious. Before her was a butterfly made of a double Peorth rune, one green one red. Beside her was her masked guard, Orpheus.

I was told to sit, and V confirmed who I was. She said she needed someone to trust and that she had information she needed to pass on. While she searched in her bag for the info, Orpheus was passed an item to hold - a copy of The Prophet, before she found the CD she was looking for. After some thought she gave this to me. I asked her if she remembered Claire, to which the reply was no - but this was delivered more in a "I can't talk about this" manner. Both if them were concerned about being watched and said there were at least one or two of "them" in the area. V started to get upset and ran away.

Orpheus said he was"not as trusting as some in the ministry" and made me look into two rows of flashing red and green lights. I passed out - I'm not sure how long for, but I still had the cd when I awoke.

When I started to leave the park, checking for anyone following me, I spotted V and O arguing. O was saying he couldn't keep protecting V. V was saying she hadn't asked for any of this. They spotted me and moved on.

They kept arguing, loudly, but it wasn't easy to hear everything said due to helpful barking dogs, screaming kids and police sirens. I did pick up comments about "we've only got until the 23rd", "will it work?" "it has to."

as I left the park, O intercepted me and asked what I heard. I said not too much. "good" he said, angrily, and walked off.

Then I died. (only joking!)

I have the CD. It's labled as V's music mix volume 1. I'll upload contents and photos of all writing / the CD tomorrow, and update this if I remember anything.

But - it looks like we have to work fast. Something seems due for the 23rd. Also, could O be Poeas from the ministry? Is anyone in contact with him - certainly I think we need to follow this up asap. And what are V's motives? I guess some of that may become clear with the contents of the cd.

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How exciting. Can't wait to hear more from you. Cool Now *fingers crossed* O didn't plant a post-hypnotic suggestion with the MOA lights. Twisted Evil Poeas (Henriette) is a female so you met O(rpheus) and V, you lucky bloke.
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Claire wants to know if you are experiencing any headaches or flashes, heh...she is worried about your having been exposed to da lights (and also paranoid that you didn't mention the CD to her).
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Ha! I'd only briefly sent her a message before cos my battery was dying. I've filled her in a bit more now.

With regards to Poeas, I do think there might be something we're missing. Why is the Ministry so intent on us not talking to her?

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Some highlights from a chat I had with Claire tonight:
  • She said, "I was also thinking that Poeas seemed quite sensitive when I asked her why her grandpa Vlad was so desperate to save Vanessa from being tainted by the ministry, but he hadn't extended her the same courtesy. Perhaps she is really out to get V. Or maybe Vlad is V's real father?"
  • I mentioned to her that it's odd that V's family tree doesn't show her dad as being a JPW, though his first name IS a form of Jason; she doesn't believe JPW is his real name, "but i also think that he's too vain and conceited to stray too far from his real name"
  • of V, she says, "mom and dad only remember her as the weird girl i brought home from bt and dragged out with me"
  • while we were chatting, there was a knock at her B&B room door..."was the old lady checking i like the movie and bringing me some hot chocolate ... she's so sweet ... seriously, if I didn't HAVE to move I could stay here for ages". We talked a bit about how this B&B and the woman and her having every movie Claire wanted to see seemed, in Claire's words, "like a modern day cinematic gingerbread house," but she also said, "believe me if it comes to it she is going in the oven". She is not the naive person V used to be...she does like that we express concern for her and so on, but she does think about whether certain things are traps and so on. She is definitely moving tomorrow.
  • Shortly after the woman came by, Claire and I resumed chatting, and then "111" appeared in our chat out of the blue. Claire was mystified by this, saying that wasn't her. She doesn't know where or what is safe, but knows the only ways we have of communicating with her are electronic and she is terrified by the idea of having to cut off electronic communication and work through this on her own. I told her we wouldn't let the bastards get us down Smile (popped into my head from A Handmaid's Tale). She disconnected from the B&B lady's wireless and booted up her netbook to keep talking to me, though she'll have to pay a fee for going over her data usage. She had already taken her sleeper & therefore couldn't drive, so she is staying at the B&B again tonight but will leave first thing tomorrow...sooner if the woman brings her hot chocolate while wearing a suit!
  • Oh, yes, she is still on the sleepers. She tried to go off them the first night on the run, but started shaking & itching. She is going to try to get a dr's appointment to come off them safely. She still has those smells & images affect her when she is trying to go to sleep, too, and still dreams about butterflies in glass cases. She only sleeps about 2 hours each night, even with the sleepers.
  • Telos, she asked if you were OK, since she hasn't talked to you for a while & you weren't feeling so great the last time you spoke. I told her you were having internet issues & very busy on top of that.
  • she mentioned Poeas' e-mails that she thinks we've all received ("spring is for healing" etc.)
  • she thinks the Ministry's request that we research Dyson is weird: "aren't you guys going to know the same things that she would if she used wiki ... i mean it's not like you have his private diaries". I told her the Ministry feels we are "fresh of mind" and that's why they want us to do it...but she has a good point.
  • fizzy drinks like Diet Coke are her only vice...at least, she said that until I reminded her about chocolate Smile...but I think this part of the conversation was just her being social. Apparently we are both chocoholics, and had a good discussion about how much cocoa we can stand in our dark chocolate (we agree that 70% is good, but 80% is too bitter...oh, and that chocolate is a food group, heh) and who makes the best. She especially likes Green and Blacks, an organic line of chocolate--especially their Mayan Gold variety and a kind that has dried cherries in it. Not that that has anything to do with the game Smile.


ETA: also, I think the wiki is now fully up-to-date, but feel free to edit it as you see the need. I've also never finished the page summarizing the last game...dunno if anyone wants to take that on or not. Dunno if it would still be helpful or not.
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