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Euchre
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I smell a fish...

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:04 pm
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 		Well damn. I can't access anything on the scariest site...just takes me to the MOUNT DEVICE. I tried a lot of stuff cold, no clue what I'm doing, but getting about exasperated enough to actually try to mount the device...maybe some flirtation will help Laughing

Kidding.

Question - for those files, GMRF71.txt and such, anyone have any ideas on the full path to access them? I did try to with the general domain/GMRF71.txt but nothing worked. Is there a way to find other directories outside brute hacking?
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 		I think we are supposed to work with the commands it gives us.


For example, if they are to release the .txt files, the commands we could use to access them would be:

.PRINT GMRF71.txt

or

.COMT GMRF71.txt

Something that I find curious is that the RSCOM8 file gets accessed just fine if you try to print it, but if you use the .COMT command there is a file read error. If the file reads fine to be accessed for printing ..... whats the deal? Not sure what "commit(ing) to tape drive" would do exactly .... perhaps just save it to our hard drives?


As far as mounting the device, someone has decompiled the .swf file and determined that there is no command for mounting a device as of yet. So, basically (and this is technically OOG since the PDP-11 simulation is supposed to be real in game) if there ever will be a command for mounting a device, they will swap the current .swf file for an updated one.

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Tracker_56 wrote:

Something that I find curious is that the RSCOM8 file gets accessed just fine if you try to print it, but if you use the .COMT command there is a file read error. If the file reads fine to be accessed for printing ..... whats the deal? Not sure what "commit(ing) to tape drive" would do exactly .... perhaps just save it to our hard drives?


Yes, that's how I understood it: the 1979 way of saying "save to disc" in the era of tape drives. In such a system, the .COMT command wouldn't work for as simple a reason as there's no tape in the (local) drive to follow the command... which would still allow printing of the file from its source.

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:45 pm
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 		I go with Tracker_56.
This flash program is just what it is. A flash program pretty close to an actual PDP-11 simulator. But that's all. Just a flash program based upon a simulator. It sets the rules pretty much "in your face".
My guess: if in the future another device will be mountable, the device-screen itself will give us other options.
Nevertheless I found it interesting to study the following sites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-11
(maybe someone can find something under the links to the different OSs as to what a file-path could look like?)
http://www.dbit.com/ (Simulator, Ersatz-11, quite easy to understand, yet no specific commands)
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/ (another simulator, not so easy, no actual commands either)
http://www.pdp11.org/ (the real machine in overview, no commands)

Personally I don't think this site is "dead" for the viral. It'll get some update at some point, imo.

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SeekerX wrote:
I go with Tracker_56.
This flash program is just what it is. A flash program pretty close to an actual PDP-11 simulator. But that's all. Just a flash program based upon a simulator. It sets the rules pretty much "in your face".
My guess: if in the future another device will be mountable, the device-screen itself will give us other options.
Nevertheless I found it interesting to study the following sites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-11
(maybe someone can find something under the links to the different OSs as to what a file-path could look like?)
http://www.dbit.com/ (Simulator, Ersatz-11, quite easy to understand, yet no specific commands)
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/ (another simulator, not so easy, no actual commands either)
http://www.pdp11.org/ (the real machine in overview, no commands)

Personally I don't think this site is "dead" for the viral. It'll get some update at some point, imo.
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FilmEdge wrote:
Tracker_56 wrote:

Something that I find curious is that the RSCOM8 file gets accessed just fine if you try to print it, but if you use the .COMT command there is a file read error. If the file reads fine to be accessed for printing ..... whats the deal? Not sure what "commit(ing) to tape drive" would do exactly .... perhaps just save it to our hard drives?


Yes, that's how I understood it: the 1979 way of saying "save to disc" in the era of tape drives. In such a system, the .COMT command wouldn't work for as simple a reason as there's no tape in the (local) drive to follow the command... which would still allow printing of the file from its source.


If that were true though, wouldn't it give us some other reason than "file read error" ? Some equivalent of "no device found" or "please insert device" ? The answers to this probably aren't going to lead anywhere. But I still thought it was worth bringing up. Just so that everyone fully understands the dynamics of the game as we know it.



By the way, moderators, the glitch in the redirect after posting is still occurring for me. It was fixed for a while, but it just happened again. Just thought I'd let someone know. Cool

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Tracker_56 wrote:
FilmEdge wrote:
Tracker_56 wrote:

Something that I find curious is that the RSCOM8 file gets accessed just fine if you try to print it, but if you use the .COMT command there is a file read error. If the file reads fine to be accessed for printing ..... whats the deal? Not sure what "commit(ing) to tape drive" would do exactly .... perhaps just save it to our hard drives?


Yes, that's how I understood it: the 1979 way of saying "save to disc" in the era of tape drives. In such a system, the .COMT command wouldn't work for as simple a reason as there's no tape in the (local) drive to follow the command... which would still allow printing of the file from its source.


If that were true though, wouldn't it give us some other reason than "file read error" ? Some equivalent of "no device found" or "please insert device" ? The answers to this probably aren't going to lead anywhere. But I still thought it was worth bringing up. Just so that everyone fully understands the dynamics of the game as we know it.



By the way, moderators, the glitch in the redirect after posting is still occurring for me. It was fixed for a while, but it just happened again. Just thought I'd let someone know. Cool
its been doing that for me since sunday night as well
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Tracker_56 wrote:
If that were true though, wouldn't it give us some other reason than "file read error" ? Some equivalent of "no device found" or "please insert device" ? The answers to this probably aren't going to lead anywhere. But I still thought it was worth bringing up. Just so that everyone fully understands the dynamics of the game as we know it.


Quite possibly, unless the makers simply wanted to deny any other command with the same "oh no you don't" message... instead of somehow implying we need to insert a CD or USB stick or such to keep trying devices. Anyway, it was only a guess. It's possible the status replies of this may change as the game evolves.

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By the way, moderators, the glitch in the redirect after posting is still occurring for me. It was fixed for a while, but it just happened again. Just thought I'd let someone know. Cool


I got it several times tonight, then on my last reply (to the trout troll) it didn't glitch out, went straight to next screen. Also, I notice you don't encounter the glitch if you EDIT a post, only when posting something new. If that helps. Probably not. Laughing

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 		Has anybody else noticed that pressing "Backspace" in the command area yields a plus/minus sign (which has been discussed multiple times in the HD trailer thread when somebody notices a beam with i21(plus/minus)70.64)?

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Tracker_56 wrote:
If that were true though, wouldn't it give us some other reason than "file read error" ? Some equivalent of "no device found" or "please insert device" ?


Nope.
Actual user-friendly, helpful error messages didn't exist back then.
Everything was overly cryptic and complicated and we liked it.
Job security for us proto-geeks.

Then came computers in everyones household and the need for a high-school educated mother of four to understand why the kid's game wouldn't load.....
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 		This is in regards to "Stop posting..."

Does anyone see any significance in the fact that the computer we are "remote viewing" already has the Print Documents window open? Here are some things I get out of it:
1. The person on the other side wasn't able to print for some reason (maybe out of ink ribbon Wink )
2. Someone else was going through the computer and printing out messages they found on it. (Cover up attempt)
3. The gamemakers giving us a foreshadowing that we will need to look for other files to print by leaving one already open.
4. I'm just reading to much into it Smile

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Animaniac wrote:
Actual user-friendly, helpful error messages didn't exist back then.

WHAT?

From the above post I'll take #3, with a side of "It was left that way by the person wanting us to find it, as their quick note to us."
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Euchre wrote:

WHAT?


Well, I can't tell for sure either but this is just "Basic" right? It's the language that the actual OS was written with/upon. So an actual error message within the OS could be "whatever", depending on the programming.
And stil, we are just dealing with a simulator. It doesn't need to strictly follow the rules of a PDP-11. It should but sure doesn't need to be 100% accurate.

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 		Re: Is the device in the LOST and found?
Nesto wrote:
Has anybody tried entering the numbers from lost into the PDP-11 terminal? I looked and couldn't find anybody posting that so I had to ask, trout me if you must, but I have tried every combination I could think of.


Hi guys, I've been lurking, and I didn't do much with cloverfield or Lost, so you might have to help me out with those, but I DID however watch Lost and play the video game, and this gave me an idea. The computer in the weird room was an old 70's computer, and I can't for the life of me remember what it asked, but you had to type all of those numbers, I remember what Nesto is saying now. He may have a point, I think these numbers might be significant.

As for the "secret message", I had another idea. Perhaps it is meant to be in a sort of morse code. Were any of the words followed by a period? Or even better, the word stop? Or perhaps a comma? I believe that we should tie in the punctuation to the words if there is any, but we should definintely read it like a telagram.

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