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LittleKuriboh
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I think it proves one thing conclusively.

Alex is Batman.

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Sumias
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Mochable wrote:
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Well, in his explaination, Evan comments that Jeff and Alex's parents have been gone 'a while'. How long that is is strictly up for interpretation. We know Jeff's 19, and you can only be someone's legal guardian if you're 18, UNLESS you're an emancipated minor. So I'm guessing they may be living with either foster parents, or perhaps another relative.



But if they said this to cover up the chains not being noticed, then wouldn't another relative being there ruin the purpose of the dead parents?


It's possible, but...

We've got several conflicting issues here.

Truth?
Evan and Vinnie state that Alex and Jeff's parents are dead.
We know Jeff is old enough to be on his own - he even stated where he worked in the UStream last night.

Lies?
Alex has claimed that he's been grounded and his parents won't let him leave the house because of Jeff's behavior.
I know for a fact that I heard a woman's voice last night on the UStream, though we're not sure who's house they were in last night.

In Alex's first video, he specifically mentions how Jeff's actions have impacted how his parents deal with Alex. I have a hard time believing that this is a continuity error issue - how, hardly a few weeks later, Evan and Vinnie are telling us that Alex and Jeff's parents are dead. I don't think this is a continuity error. I think we're either being lied to(but I find even this unlikely), or Alex has serious, serious issues.
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this is a very good point.....cameras set up all over the house to watch the boys....so setu p to be "mom" and "dad".....
that means some thing is controlling a system of cameras that are hidden in jeffs house....now the question is whether jeff and alex made this system....
or whether it was placed there by something else....

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I still say they're living with older relatives, that would keep the top levels of the house pretty much reserved for them. Alex's statements are either the result of serious mental imbalance or else "pretending they're alive" doesn't mean he believes it, it means he covers for his family arrangements by saying they're alive. So when he says his parents have grounded him, he really means his grandparents/whatever, and he just didn't feel like explaining the situation to the entire internet.

I will say this, and perhaps burn in hell for it, but TribeTwelve had a better method of dealing with the "Where are the parents?" question than EMH did.

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I don't even know if I believe that. Saying their parents are dead doesn't dodge the question of "WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BARRICADE DOORS IN THE HOUSE?!" from whoever they're living with.

Maybe they live with grandparents? I dunno. They might also just have relatives that come check on them sometimes or...whatever. I dunno. I just know that the voices we've heard inside that house have to belong to someone...and if not their parents...then who?

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scion, is it possibl we are dealing with a what, not a who, when we're talking jeffs new "parents"????

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Scion of Flame wrote:
We've all sort of looked at the boys from an 'Oh, well Evan is pretty crazy...Jeff is sad...Vince is neutral, etc' light. I'm believing more and more that all of the boys are DEEPLY disturbed in one way or another.


Agreed. That's been my POV all along.

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I think if they lived with someone who they were calling their parents, it would be a non-issue. They wouldn't go out of their way to let us know their real parents were dead if that was the case.

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Sumias: I'm almost positive they were at Vince's house last night.

I personally think it's going to be used as a way to have all the boys relate back to the papers from Corenthal. We have Jeff being left behind and stuck in a burning school (which is one of my worst fears ugh), Alex pretending his parents are still alive in some way or another, and we've all seen Evan's crazy multiple times. Now we just need Vince.
However, I don't know how Alex fits into the papers since he hasn't been mentioned in any.

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quitthecarnival wrote:
Sumias: I'm almost positive they were at Vince's house last night.

I personally think it's going to be used as a way to have all the boys relate back to the papers from Corenthal. We have Jeff being left behind and stuck in a burning school (which is one of my worst fears ugh), Alex pretending his parents are still alive in some way or another, and we've all seen Evan's crazy multiple times. Now we just need Vince.
However, I don't know how Alex fits into the papers since he hasn't been mentioned in any.


I think, in a way, we already are seeing Vince. Not on such a level as Alex and Evan, but let's face it, Vince seems to live on Denial. He doesn't think the Corenthal papers are real. IIRC, he didn't believe much about Damsel, either. He didn't believe Slendy was real. He seems to completely block out everything that's obviously happening around him. That's not a sign of a right mind.
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I'm kind of leaning toward "clumsy continuity fix" at the moment. The biggest thing for me is Jeff's creepy "Insurance money can go a long way," which I took to mean that A) he and Alex have been living on their own, even if that's not the way it would work in the real world; and B) they really, really want us to drop the whole "where are the parents?" issue.

I was distracted at a few important moments during the Ustream last night. At one point I re-focused just as it looked like Jeff was explaining what he'd told the police about Damsel. Did he say that all he did was tell them that she'd been the last person to see Jessa alive? I may have misinterpreted the context in which he was saying that, so some clarification would be much appreciated. As much as I love the guys, I don't want to sit through the 2-hour video again. Smile

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Yeah, fairly certain they weren't at Jeff's either. I really don't know about the parents situation...but I do think we need to be viewing the boys in a different light via their psychological states.

If my theory is right then...well, Evan may be nuts and talking to people, but Alex is right up there with him on the Batshit Crazy scale.

I don't think they want us to drop the issue other than him being angry that we brought it up. It's a natural reaction. Still don't think it's a clumsy continuity fix with the LACK of clumsiness in the rest of the series. If they wanted to cut parents out of things before, they could have. Just doesn't feel like it fits their production value up until now, you know?

@Mattwan Jeff did say he told them about Damsel being the last one to see Jessa alive 'and some other stuff', I believe.

Extra Note: ...Are they dumb in thinking that the Rake couldn't just get out the window in Alex's room? I mean...really? I'm pretty sure if it wanted to be loose again, it would be.

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Possible theory on the parent's inconsistency:
Remember that video (I forget which) that had the two versions of opening Jeff and Alex's front door, in gagged Jeff version there was someone who doesn't line up with the rest of the cast in background, possible parent/ Family member?

Also, I remember reading a wild guess that both versions of the door opening happened and are different versions of reality. Maybe the parents being around is also a difference between two concurrent realities and we're only just now noticing the subtle differences.

Probably not, but interesting idea.

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Sumias wrote:
quitthecarnival wrote:
Sumias: I'm almost positive they were at Vince's house last night.

I personally think it's going to be used as a way to have all the boys relate back to the papers from Corenthal. We have Jeff being left behind and stuck in a burning school (which is one of my worst fears ugh), Alex pretending his parents are still alive in some way or another, and we've all seen Evan's crazy multiple times. Now we just need Vince.
However, I don't know how Alex fits into the papers since he hasn't been mentioned in any.


I think, in a way, we already are seeing Vince. Not on such a level as Alex and Evan, but let's face it, Vince seems to live on Denial. He doesn't think the Corenthal papers are real. IIRC, he didn't believe much about Damsel, either. He didn't believe Slendy was real. He seems to completely block out everything that's obviously happening around him. That's not a sign of a right mind.


I dunno. I think recently he's come around to acknowledging their situation. I feel like he wants to keep more of it private though. He told Evan they'd talk about the call later instead of saying it over the Ustream.
But I'll agree he's not sane either. Lately it seems like he's been kind of out of it. He was barely present for the Ustream last night and kept wandering off. He was wandering a bit in the videos from the meet up too. Something's up.
I think he's on board with their Damsel plan now too, which is going to include something illegal since they said they shouldn't talk about it in the Ustream. Jailbreak anyone?

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quitthecarnival wrote:
However, I don't know how Alex fits into the papers since he hasn't been mentioned in any.


everymanHYBRID wiki - last Ustream page wrote:
The papers that Jeff found at the school were essentially copies of the papers that have been in the cached boxes. Jeff says that there was one page that has not been dulpicated yet.


How much would you bet that this unduplicated page is about Jeff himself (and probably mentions a brother too?)

About the "I'm grounded" thing: either Alex was talking like they were still alive, but he had been actually grounded by an uncle/grandfather/the like that is their tutor but doesn't live with them all the time, or there's something very, very fucked up that we're missing.

/epileptic tree ahead

Without Evan, Alex would have been Rake'd by now. It is possible that Alex isn't mentioned in the doc's papers, or is mentioned but just in passing, because the doc didn't got a chance to attempt to cure him, because the Rake that time got to him sooner.

About the "I'm grounded" thing II: my original hypothesis was that Jeff and Alex had abusive or simply generally "bad" parents. That's why they weren't telling anything, and that's why Alex flinches when he hears that voice calling in the Alex vid. Anyway, going by it, they might be saying they're "dead" just to avoid further questioning, because it's a sensitive issue.

/end epileptic tree

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