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Adah
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 		What's weird about this new video is that the music is only playing BEFORE the on-screen text tells us (?) to "[Begin.]" As soon as the "begin" stops flashing, the music also stops, making it kind of impossible to "sing along". Is this supposed to mean something? I don't see why they would include the text at the beginning if it wasn't somehow important.

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 		@5_pak I think that's why I thought it wasn't Slenderman. I saw what appeared to be blue on that outfit, not the uniform black. Just a trick of the light and scenery, I suppose.

@Adah I'm not sure about that either. Maybe [Begin.] is for us to begin being freaked the hell out and start speculating, heh.

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5_pak wrote:
Mattwan wrote:
Here's a screencap of Slendy in the road from "Ashen Waste". It's not great--you never realize just how much you rely on the "persistence of vision" illusion until you start looking at stuff frame by frame.

I think the problem here might be that they weren't using either a person or a proper mannequin in a Slendy costume for this shot. Slendy here looks kind of like more like an oval an a base than a pear-shaped person. That could just be some video weirdness, though.



One thing that's been bugging me about the shot of Slender on the road in "Ashen Waste." Am I the only one who things that he looks a little transparent?

It's easier to notice watching the video. Maybe it's the fact that it's black-suit on dark background but Slender seems to sort of fade into the shot right at the last second and he looks a little ghostly when he does. I almost thought he was that weird transparent blue that you see holographs projected in in sci-fi stories all the time.

The "drive-by" Slender just seems to have some weird effect around him that makes him almost illusory. It's hard to describe. Any one else notice it?


I just think it's a product of partial Special Effects Failure. I mean, how else are you going to film Slendy in front of an accelerating car? Just photoshop him in of course!

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 		Perhaps a clue that something is inverted?

I'm still wondering if there is supposed to be a connection drawn between all the bracketed texts.

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 		I've brought that up before, Sitic.

Slushpops and Surprises had [ENTER THE TRAGIC HERO AND HIS UNATTAINABLE COMPANION.]

Then we had the Alex video with [Continue?]

And now [Begin.]

Usually brackets and parentheses are to mark, online at least...OOC chatter. It makes me wonder if these are OOG-related...but with that new video, I just don't think so anymore.

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MetalGearSamus wrote:


I just think it's a product of partial Special Effects Failure. I mean, how else are you going to film Slendy in front of an accelerating car? Just photoshop him in of course!


That had been my assumption, and I noticed the transparency thing when 5pak pointed it out.

The weird thing, though, is that if you obsessively watch that clip over and over, forward and back, again and again like I did just now, keeping your eye trained on the spot where Slendy's head should be, it does look like there's an actual physical object there at there filming location. There do seem to be a few frames dropped as they make their final approach, but I think there's a real something there. My working assumption is that it's a homemade Slender Man standee, and that the transparency and discoloration are artifacts of shining headlights on a two-dimensional object at night with lightning flashes.

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 		Also, why are there dots next to each group of text at the very beginning?

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I can't imagine it was an accident. The two dots connected to the moving text both intersect with the stationary one under the first "sing along". Are we just being teased with all of these things that look like puzzles but aren't? I wouldn't be surprised.

About the bracketed text: I don't know what it could mean, really. They seem to be similar to stage directions (which are usually indicated by parentheses), addressing the plot directly. [Enter the tragic hero and his unattainable companion.] definitely reads like a stage direction, and [Continue?] and [Begin.] are both instructing us to do something.

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Scion of Flame wrote:
I've brought that up before, Sitic.

Slushpops and Surprises had [ENTER THE TRAGIC HERO AND HIS UNATTAINABLE COMPANION.]

Then we had the Alex video with [Continue?]

And now [Begin.]

Usually brackets and parentheses are to mark, online at least...OOC chatter. It makes me wonder if these are OOG-related...but with that new video, I just don't think so anymore.


To my mind, [ENTER THE TRAGIC HERO...] looks like stage directions. [Continue?] reminds me of old Choose Your Own Adventure Books (do you young'ns know what those are?) or maybe something from a text-based video game. [Begin.] puts me in mind of sheet music, but I have no idea why.

I like the idea that they're supposed to be taken together and have a larger, interconnected meaning. I think it's possible, though, that they're elements inserted to highlight the metatextuality that makes EMH so awesome.

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 		At about 1:47 in WTTA( after the clip from the other leaked video of Slendy..and right about when we start to hear the Rake) I think Slendy is standing on the left side of the screen, facing Vince. You can briefly see him.

Has anyone tried to determine what the Rake is saying in WTTA?

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 		I hadn't thought of that, Adah and Mattwan. I guess that does work! And of course I know CYoA books, they're fantastic. That's basically what we're doing now. We sort of control which page in the book we flip to sometimes.

I also noticed something odd in the new video. When they flash the clip from Day in the Life, the words 'blinds him.' stay on the screen. 'blinds' settles heavily over the head of Ryan for quite a while, while 'him.' sits over Alex in bed. Anyone wondering about Ryan now? I am, since we've not seen him since that video.

Might be nothing, but it was an observance.

@Ouro Yeah, he is there Ouro. As for the Rake, I know we've discussed what he's saying before...I just can't remember right now.

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Adah wrote:
Also, why are there dots next to each group of text at the very beginning?


It's hard to believe that it's an accident, but I am leaning toward that explanation. I've done video text using the method I think they used, and it can be handy to put in a little marker to help you line up all your elements. You then have to go back and redo the elements without the marker, which doesn't take much time but is kind of annoying. I'm not saying this is what happened, and it would be unlike their usual detail-obsessed selves, but, hey, even Homer nods once in a while.

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Mattwan wrote:

That had been my assumption, and I noticed the transparency thing when 5pak pointed it out.

The weird thing, though, is that if you obsessively watch that clip over and over, forward and back, again and again like I did just now, keeping your eye trained on the spot where Slendy's head should be, it does look like there's an actual physical object there at there filming location. There do seem to be a few frames dropped as they make their final approach, but I think there's a real something there. My working assumption is that it's a homemade Slender Man standee, and that the transparency and discoloration are artifacts of shining headlights on a two-dimensional object at night with lightning flashes.



You're probably right. Either it's a standee or a photoshop and the "ghost" effect is just a trick of the trick (trick my trick!).

One thing I still haven't figured out though (and I brought this up a hundred pages ago but it got lost in a new video): right before Vince's "gun it" he says "I can't even see it on the camera." Implying that Slendy should be visible to the camera the entire time in that little segment before they try to run him down but for some reason isn't. I think this is another reason why it has me wondering about the effects because something about this encounter is different. Slendy isn't on camera this time until the last second for some reason.

Why is that?

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Mattwan wrote:
Adah wrote:
Also, why are there dots next to each group of text at the very beginning?


It's hard to believe that it's an accident, but I am leaning toward that explanation. I've done video text using the method I think they used, and it can be handy to put in a little marker to help you line up all your elements. You then have to go back and redo the elements without the marker, which doesn't take much time but is kind of annoying. I'm not saying this is what happened, and it would be unlike their usual detail-obsessed selves, but, hey, even Homer nods once in a while.


It could also be an indication that, IG and/or OOG, this video was rushed.

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Mattwan wrote:
Scion of Flame wrote:
I've brought that up before, Sitic.

Slushpops and Surprises had [ENTER THE TRAGIC HERO AND HIS UNATTAINABLE COMPANION.]

Then we had the Alex video with [Continue?]

And now [Begin.]

Usually brackets and parentheses are to mark, online at least...OOC chatter. It makes me wonder if these are OOG-related...but with that new video, I just don't think so anymore.


To my mind, [ENTER THE TRAGIC HERO...] looks like stage directions. [Continue?] reminds me of old Choose Your Own Adventure Books (do you young'ns know what those are?) or maybe something from a text-based video game. [Begin.] puts me in mind of sheet music, but I have no idea why.

I like the idea that they're supposed to be taken together and have a larger, interconnected meaning. I think it's possible, though, that they're elements inserted to highlight the metatextuality that makes EMH so awesome.


Check me on this.

Slushpops wasn't a hidden video, right? They uploaded it, i can't remember if they gave us a reason why. We saw the first half of the first coordinates... and then the TRAGIC HERO text and rake breathing...

This makes me want to say that whoever edited that in was one of our boys.. It doesn't feel the same way that flash of alex in 'jeff' did- no stuttering, its tossed at the end like credits or an afterthought...

but if it's the same source.. that would mean all of the hidden videos (and the card left for alex).. are from one of our boys.

The habit possession theory is winning me over.


wait.. is alex, perhaps are tragic hero? the goodnatured kid who is fatally in denial?

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Mattwan wrote:
Adah wrote:
Also, why are there dots next to each group of text at the very beginning?


It's hard to believe that it's an accident, but I am leaning toward that explanation. I've done video text using the method I think they used, and it can be handy to put in a little marker to help you line up all your elements. You then have to go back and redo the elements without the marker, which doesn't take much time but is kind of annoying. I'm not saying this is what happened, and it would be unlike their usual detail-obsessed selves, but, hey, even Homer nods once in a while.

This is very true; I hadn't thought of that. They do seem to be used to line everything up properly, so oops I was wrong.

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