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Mira
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Scion of Flame wrote:
Mira wrote:
I read a cool theory about how deja vu is actually your brain firing stuff into your long-term memory rather than your short-term, so you only think you've experienced the moment before, when in reality you are experiencing it for the first time.


It's an interesting theory, but I can't bring myself to believe it. The specifics that I see in each instance are nothing my brain could have conceived of beforehand if it didn't have some method of retrieving them via some...source.

Down to exact text and exchanges with people I wouldn't meet for years to come.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying -- supposedly, your brain misfires and instantaneously stores the information in your long-term memory, so you feel as if it has happened before and you are retrieving it all now (or something like that, I wish I could find the article!)

But again, I just thought it was cool, I don't necessarily believe it.

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It's no wonder I get this and the off topic thread confused...


You too?

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ravenofroses
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 		about that no-girls-in-the-slendyverse thing.

obviously, we know a lot of these things are being produced by young white males, so it's not unexpected that they would feature heavily in the stories themselves.

but i'm wondering if there's some kind of instinctual response a person has to watching a young, capable male be hunted down by a supernatural beast in a cosmic horror story as opposed to a (supposedly weaker) young female. there seems to be an instinct in people to pity women in trouble. it's more horrifying when someone who you expect to be able to do battle with the monster ("yar. i be big strong man. i hit monster with my club.") is completely overtaken and reduced to running away.

yeah, i know this isn't exactly a very feminist thing to say, but i do wonder if there isn't some natural inclination which leads people to tailor their stories for maximum psychological horror.

edit: sorry about the off-topicness, but i think it is somewhat relevant to this game. the females are designed to give information and to be used against the main males in order to further the plot. there's not really anything wrong with that, as it could easily be the other way around (or non-heteronormative), but it's interesting to think about how this impacts the way we view the game and our level of immersion in it.

edit edit: yay for feminist slendystory! i wrote a short bit of prose about a female being stalked by slendy, but it was in first person pov and as such, most people think it was a male narrator. ah well.

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SiticHybrid
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Mira wrote:
Scion of Flame wrote:
Mira wrote:
I read a cool theory about how deja vu is actually your brain firing stuff into your long-term memory rather than your short-term, so you only think you've experienced the moment before, when in reality you are experiencing it for the first time.


It's an interesting theory, but I can't bring myself to believe it. The specifics that I see in each instance are nothing my brain could have conceived of beforehand if it didn't have some method of retrieving them via some...source.

Down to exact text and exchanges with people I wouldn't meet for years to come.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying -- supposedly, your brain misfires and instantaneously stores the information in your long-term memory, so you feel as if it has happened before and you are retrieving it all now (or something like that, I wish I could find the article!)

But again, I just thought it was cool, I don't necessarily believe it.


Scion thought you were talking about precognitive dreaming, not deja vu.

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but i'm wondering if there's some kind of instinctual response a person has to watching a young, capable male be hunted down by a supernatural beast in a cosmic horror story as opposed to a (supposedly weaker) young female. there seems to be an instinct in people to pity women in trouble. it's more horrifying when someone who you expect to be able to do battle with the monster ("yar. i be big strong man. i hit monster with my club.") is completely overtaken and reduced to running away.


As an interesting aside, was listening to a writing workshop discuss the defination of horror. One of the things they defined it as was a incapable protagonist. Bleh, I wish i could remember their quotes and examples better. But yeah- the general thing was that if the protagonist has an obvious chance of survival, it's suspense. or action. or a thriller. Horror means that whoever your hero is, he's out of his depth.

Or she, to bring it back to the topic at hand.

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DandA
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 		Please, they're all dumb college kids/teenagers. They're all helpless.

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DandA wrote:
Please, they're all dumb college kids/teenagers. They're all helpless.


Well, it's slenderman.

Who *isn't* helpless in that context?

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Scion of Flame
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Mira wrote:
Scion of Flame wrote:
Mira wrote:
I read a cool theory about how deja vu is actually your brain firing stuff into your long-term memory rather than your short-term, so you only think you've experienced the moment before, when in reality you are experiencing it for the first time.


It's an interesting theory, but I can't bring myself to believe it. The specifics that I see in each instance are nothing my brain could have conceived of beforehand if it didn't have some method of retrieving them via some...source.

Down to exact text and exchanges with people I wouldn't meet for years to come.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying -- supposedly, your brain misfires and instantaneously stores the information in your long-term memory, so you feel as if it has happened before and you are retrieving it all now (or something like that, I wish I could find the article!)

But again, I just thought it was cool, I don't necessarily believe it.


It is cool! I would actually love it if you could find the article. I'll do some searching myself, because I'm interested in the topic of...weird brain stuff, I guess.

My dream thing is a bit more out there and paranormal/psychic, I think. People give me odd looks when I talk about it, and I've given up trying to reassure them that I'm not making it up and talking out of my ass. Razz

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ravenofroses wrote:
about that no-girls-in-the-slendyverse thing.

obviously, we know a lot of these things are being produced by young white males, so it's not unexpected that they would feature heavily in the stories themselves.

but i'm wondering if there's some kind of instinctual response a person has to watching a young, capable male be hunted down by a supernatural beast in a cosmic horror story as opposed to a (supposedly weaker) young female. there seems to be an instinct in people to pity women in trouble. it's more horrifying when someone who you expect to be able to do battle with the monster ("yar. i be big strong man. i hit monster with my club.") is completely overtaken and reduced to running away.

yeah, i know this isn't exactly a very feminist thing to say, but i do wonder if there isn't some natural inclination which leads people to tailor their stories for maximum psychological horror.

edit: sorry about the off-topicness, but i think it is somewhat relevant to this game. the females are designed to give information and to be used against the main males in order to further the plot. there's not really anything wrong with that, as it could easily be the other way around (or non-heteronormative), but it's interesting to think about how this impacts the way we view the game and our level of immersion in it.

edit edit: yay for feminist slendystory! i wrote a short bit of prose about a female being stalked by slendy, but it was in first person pov and as such, most people think it was a male narrator. ah well.


That's really interesting, but I think it's a "write who you know" thing than anything else. I wouldn't be any less invested in everymanHYBRID even if it took place in that alternate universe Vinny was talking about where Evan is a girl.

But I think it being an ARG with male protagonists makes us more willing to help them, based on the popular stereotype of men being less than bright and women being down to earth. A big maybe, though.

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SiticHybrid
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MyrtleGreen wrote:
ravenofroses wrote:
about that no-girls-in-the-slendyverse thing.

obviously, we know a lot of these things are being produced by young white males, so it's not unexpected that they would feature heavily in the stories themselves.

but i'm wondering if there's some kind of instinctual response a person has to watching a young, capable male be hunted down by a supernatural beast in a cosmic horror story as opposed to a (supposedly weaker) young female. there seems to be an instinct in people to pity women in trouble. it's more horrifying when someone who you expect to be able to do battle with the monster ("yar. i be big strong man. i hit monster with my club.") is completely overtaken and reduced to running away.

yeah, i know this isn't exactly a very feminist thing to say, but i do wonder if there isn't some natural inclination which leads people to tailor their stories for maximum psychological horror.

edit: sorry about the off-topicness, but i think it is somewhat relevant to this game. the females are designed to give information and to be used against the main males in order to further the plot. there's not really anything wrong with that, as it could easily be the other way around (or non-heteronormative), but it's interesting to think about how this impacts the way we view the game and our level of immersion in it.

edit edit: yay for feminist slendystory! i wrote a short bit of prose about a female being stalked by slendy, but it was in first person pov and as such, most people think it was a male narrator. ah well.


That's really interesting, but I think it's a "write who you know" thing than anything else. I wouldn't be any less invested in everymanHYBRID even if it took place in that alternate universe Vinny was talking about where Evan is a girl.

But I think it being an ARG with male protagonists makes us more willing to help them, based on the popular stereotype of men being less than bright and women being down to earth. A big maybe, though.


Bringing this back on topic- it's interesting how that last paragraph applies to EMH.

#savethedamsel

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 		I feel like anyone would want to help someone being chased by Slendy, regardless of gender.

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 		I love talking about dreams. I have an abnormally large amount of reoccuring dreams, false awakenings, and lucid dreams. I have great dream recall though, and I think that's supposed to help with lucid dreaming. When I'm sick, I tend to get sleep paralysis.
I once had this absolutely horrifying nightmare. I had so many false awakenings in it that when I actually woke up I wasn't sure I was honestly awake until I got to school and saw someone. It was probably the most horrifying thing I've ever experienced.

This is an itty bitty bit on topic if we think about the Sleep Study Wink

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MyrtleGreen wrote:

That's really interesting, but I think it's a "write who you know" thing than anything else. I wouldn't be any less invested in everymanHYBRID even if it took place in that alternate universe Vinny was talking about where Evan is a girl.

But I think it being an ARG with male protagonists makes us more willing to help them, based on the popular stereotype of men being less than bright and women being down to earth. A big maybe, though.


yeah, i imagine it is a "write what you know" thing, but i'm just wired to ferret for neat little unconscious biases like that. O.o and i would love to see that girl version of evan. methinks i would totally date her.

oooh, i like that one. females are supposed to be more intuitive, at least according to popular opinion. casual viewers may be more inclined to let a troupe of girls work out their own damned puzzles cos they seem more capable of doing so...hah. oh, i do love speculation about the workings of human brainmeats.

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quitthecarnival wrote:
I love talking about dreams. I have an abnormally large amount of reoccuring dreams, false awakenings, and lucid dreams. I have great dream recall though, and I think that's supposed to help with lucid dreaming. When I'm sick, I tend to get sleep paralysis.
I once had this absolutely horrifying nightmare. I had so many false awakenings in it that when I actually woke up I wasn't sure I was honestly awake until I got to school and saw someone. It was probably the most horrifying thing I've ever experienced.

This is an itty bitty bit on topic if we think about the Sleep Study Wink


Oh god. Crazy theory #59,362:

Evan never woke up from the sleep study. and this is all his dream.

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Evan, if there was a girl version of you, I'd date you


I love that quote. Although i'd personally rather date a girl whose less likely to stab my while i sleep.

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ravenofroses wrote:
edit edit: yay for feminist slendystory! i wrote a short bit of prose about a female being stalked by slendy, but it was in first person pov and as such, most people think it was a male narrator. ah well.


That's okay, I wrote a prose poem once about a little girl getting stalked through the woods by Slendy, which resulted in the entire class believing a) it was about a sexual predator, and b) it was based on personal experience. XO

@Scion yeah, brain stuff is so interesting! And I actualyl do think people can tap into their subconscious and foresee things to some extent (probably some more powerfully than others), mainly due to the fact that I've found myself in situations that I've talked about in dream journals months/years earlier (doesn't happen often, maybe only a few times, and it's always been pretty insignificant stuff).

@quitthecarnival man i could talk about that shit for dayyyyysss. I had one of those "false awakening" experiences really recently and it was awful! I fell asleep on the couch, "woke up" on the couch and knew I was having a nightmare, but for some reason I couldn't get myself to wake up, so I just sat there for the longest stretch of time before deciding to just go find where the nightmare was so I could get it over with. fucking sucked!

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SiticHybrid wrote:
Although i'd personally rather date a girl whose less likely to stab my while i sleep.


Nah, she'd just stab you while you played video games.

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