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Shizzire
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MageSteff wrote:
Speculation in chat (freenode irc #conspiracyforgood)
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06:58] <cyngs> GOD, WE ARE SOOOO DUMB!!!
[06:58] <M> hhhmmmm?
[07:00] <cyngs> the G+3=J
[07:00] <cyngs> it's another code to decrypt
[07:01] <cyngs> look...we've already had 2 codes that were 5 digits long
[07:01] <cyngs> just look at it G*3*J
[07:01] <cyngs> it even looks like one of the codes
[07:01] <cyngs> we just have to figure out what the other two digits are
[07:02] <cyngs> gawd, i can't believe we've been so blind
[07:03] <cyngs> and I can't believe noone is around to help me figure it out
[07:04] <cyngs> okay so the plus sign was originally a P
[07:04] <cyngs> so GP3*J
[07:05] * M[a]gesteff confusedly asks "How do you figure it is a P and not some other letter?
[07:06] <cyngs> it could be another letter
[07:06] <cyngs> but I looked up the plus sign on wikipediea and says before the + sign the P was used
[07:06] <cyngs> so it could be a p, it might not be
[07:06] <cyngs> but it's better than nothing
[07:06] <cyngs> we wont know until we enter the code
[07:07] <cyngs> and we can't brute force it because we only have 5 tries a day and i've already used up several
[07:09] <M> Also: J a negative number is denoted by an underscor
[07:09] <M> under the computing section
[07:11] <M> WHich could also designate a code
[07:13] <M> I also have to wait until later to try
[07:14] <M> so maybe GP3MJ? If the _ is really a minus sign?
[07:16] <cyngs> didn't work
[07:17] <M> Ah well can't say it wasn't tried
[07:17] <cyngs> okay....here is what i tried for anyone who comes in later because I have to go in 15 minutes and wont be around to tell them
[07:17] <M> ok
[07:20] <cyngs> G838J, GA3EJ, GP3AEJ, GP3EJ, GP3MJ, GP3OEJ, GP3OJ, GP3ZJ


I thought the codes were 6 characters... the only two that don't meet that standard are 77472 and 27JAA

And for the most part, they are limited to HEX,except 27JAA and S7A3E7.

It always bothers me when things don't follow "standards". It's the geek in me that gets upset...

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Shizzire wrote:
It always bothers me when things don't follow "standards". It's the geek in me that gets upset...


Haha, I completely agree.
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Shizzire wrote:
MageSteff wrote:
Speculation in chat (freenode irc #conspiracyforgood)
Quote:
06:58] <cyngs> GOD, WE ARE SOOOO DUMB!!!
[06:58] <M> hhhmmmm?
[07:00] <cyngs> the G+3=J
[07:00] <cyngs> it's another code to decrypt
[07:01] <cyngs> look...we've already had 2 codes that were 5 digits long
[07:01] <cyngs> just look at it G*3*J
[07:01] <cyngs> it even looks like one of the codes
[07:01] <cyngs> we just have to figure out what the other two digits are
[07:02] <cyngs> gawd, i can't believe we've been so blind
[07:03] <cyngs> and I can't believe noone is around to help me figure it out
[07:04] <cyngs> okay so the plus sign was originally a P
[07:04] <cyngs> so GP3*J
[07:05] * M[a]gesteff confusedly asks "How do you figure it is a P and not some other letter?
[07:06] <cyngs> it could be another letter
[07:06] <cyngs> but I looked up the plus sign on wikipediea and says before the + sign the P was used
[07:06] <cyngs> so it could be a p, it might not be
[07:06] <cyngs> but it's better than nothing
[07:06] <cyngs> we wont know until we enter the code
[07:07] <cyngs> and we can't brute force it because we only have 5 tries a day and i've already used up several
[07:09] <M> Also: J a negative number is denoted by an underscor
[07:09] <M> under the computing section
[07:11] <M> WHich could also designate a code
[07:13] <M> I also have to wait until later to try
[07:14] <M> so maybe GP3MJ? If the _ is really a minus sign?
[07:16] <cyngs> didn't work
[07:17] <M> Ah well can't say it wasn't tried
[07:17] <cyngs> okay....here is what i tried for anyone who comes in later because I have to go in 15 minutes and wont be around to tell them
[07:17] <M> ok
[07:20] <cyngs> G838J, GA3EJ, GP3AEJ, GP3EJ, GP3MJ, GP3OEJ, GP3OJ, GP3ZJ


I thought the codes were 6 characters... the only two that don't meet that standard are 77472 and 27JAA

And for the most part, they are limited to HEX,except 27JAA and S7A3E7.

It always bothers me when things don't follow "standards". It's the geek in me that gets upset...

Are you 100% sure it's a code to decrypt after all in the alphabet J is three spaces from G... If you need some codes to crack I'd suggest trying some Steganography on those pics if anyone has some suitable SW or experience in dealing with that kind of coding...

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Rinflame wrote:
Are you 100% sure it's a code to decrypt after all in the alphabet J is three spaces from G...


I agree, seems too simple to be a code. It's more likely a key. i.e. it's telling us that at some point (maybe already) there is a song where we need to ROT the notes, probably individually.

Rinflame wrote:
If you need some codes to crack I'd suggest trying some Steganography on those pics if anyone has some suitable SW or experience in dealing with that kind of coding...


Which pics? The pic he linked to me in my email, he didn't make.
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AzureWolf wrote:
Rinflame wrote:
Are you 100% sure it's a code to decrypt after all in the alphabet J is three spaces from G...


I agree, seems too simple to be a code. It's more likely a key. i.e. it's telling us that at some point (maybe already) there is a song where we need to ROT the notes, probably individually.

Rinflame wrote:
If you need some codes to crack I'd suggest trying some Steganography on those pics if anyone has some suitable SW or experience in dealing with that kind of coding...


Which pics? The pic he linked to me in my email, he didn't make.


From the little I understand about how it works you don't have to make the pic to hide code in it, but I tried some SW on them and so far found nothing so it might be a dead end... I was just wondering where all that obsession with images comes from, but after all Jack ain't exactly the most rational being on this planet...

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Rinflame wrote:
From the little I understand about how it works you don't have to make the pic to hide code in it


I wasn't too clear, my fault. What I meant was he neither made the pic, nor uploaded it, just linked to it.

This person made it and uploaded it: http://knowyourmeme.com/users/biscuit

21 days ago, or about May 20. The day after I registered on CFG, so unless they're psychic (They'd have to know my IG persona would tilt at windmills yes?) it couldn't have been a PM.
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AzureWolf wrote:
Rinflame wrote:
From the little I understand about how it works you don't have to make the pic to hide code in it


I wasn't too clear, my fault. What I meant was he neither made the pic, nor uploaded it, just linked to it.

This person made it and uploaded it: http://knowyourmeme.com/users/biscuit

21 days ago, or about May 20. The day after I registered on CFG, so unless they're psychic (They'd have to know my IG persona would tilt at windmills yes?) it couldn't have been a PM.


Thx that saves me a lot of time I'd spent trying to find a code which doesn't exist...

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 		All right folks here are the HEX codes of the colours we found in the youtube vids. Just in case anyone is wondering it's taken as the most representative colour in the picture.

So here we go:

Tatoo vid codes (in order of appearance)

70dfcc
1e9af0
6d93d4
b8c39b

Hug a chugger vid codes

6fdfcc
1e9bf0
6e93d4
b9c39b

And there are also some in the Venus project vid hidden in the interference parts...

bac39b
6e93d4
1e9bf0
6fdfcc

I've also noticed the codes seem to be quite similar with oly few digits changing and some also repeat completely so that might be something to work with...

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Rinflame wrote:
All right folks here are the HEX codes of the colours we found in the youtube vids. Just in case anyone is wondering it's taken as the most representative colour in the picture.

So here we go:

Tatoo vid codes (in order of appearance)

70dfcc
1e9af0
6d93d4
b8c39b

Hug a chugger vid codes

6fdfcc
1e9bf0
6e93d4
b9c39b

And there are also some in the Venus project vid hidden in the interference parts...

bac39b
6e93d4
1e9bf0
6fdfcc

I've also noticed the codes seem to be quite similar with oly few digits changing and some also repeat completely so that might be something to work with...


Apparently you didn't read what I said in chat, if you download the mp4 versus the flv off of keepvid, or even go straight from youtube. You get different results for the same video. This means you cannot have a code hidden based on the hex of a color in a video on youtube. (Because the encoding changes the colors slightly)
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 		2 updates

1) I decided to spam Marcus, since he didn't respond to my video shout out after i put all that effort into it Razz

so I spammed him with obnoxious emails of "ring ring....hello?" (charlie the unicorn reference) all day yesterday and I think he decided he had enough:

Quote:

Hey Cyngs. Im sorry I haven't been quicker. My protocol has had me in training for the past few days.

I think Pegbox is alive. She left a package with another member before London happened where she anticipated that this might happen. It seems she was moving out of London after the mission to get something. Right now I am trying to track what that something is.


//M


2) Twitter from brianxcleary this morning (put it in spoiler because it contains swears:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Got thumped today... details soon - eye's fucked.


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 		Allright since I am stubborn and can't see any other reliable way to encode a message into colours I checked all the formats. I reckon that whoever might have used the code haven't realized there will be distortions after the vid gets uploaded to youtube. So until we get the vids uploaded somewhere in the original version I suggest we could try to figure out what the intended code was by using what we have. Since the codes in different vids are very similar I guess they might actually be the same so if we compare all the codes and take those which appear most often we might get the intended result. We might ignore the Youtube codes completely since the distortion there is just unbelieavable. I know there is a lot of guesswork involved and it's all brutaly farfetched but I can see no other alternative...

So here is the list of codes:

Tatoo vid codes (in order of appearance)

MP4
70dfcc
1e9af0
6d93d4
b8c39b

FLV
6fdfcc
1e9bf0
6e93d4
b8c39b

YOUTUBE
66d2ce
1493f6
6992d6
b7bf9b

Hug a chugger vid codes

MP4
6fdfcc
1e9bf0
6e93d4
b9c39b

FLV
6fdfcc
1e9bf0
6e93d4
b8c39b

YOUTUBE
66d2ce
1392f6
6992d6
b7bf9b

Venus project vid codes

MP4
bac39b
6e93d4
1e9bf0
6fdfcc

FLV
bac29b
6e93d4
1e9bf0
6fdfcc

YOUTUBE
b9bf9b
6992d6
1493f6
66d2ce

So this would be the average result:

AVERAGE:

6fdfcc
1e9bf0
6e93d4
b8c39b

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Rinflame wrote:
but I can see no other alternative...


Considering that the morse code only told us the name of the web site. (Assuming there is no meaning to "Read the signs" which I don't think there is) Why would there necessarily be ANY meaning assigned to the colors? I think they just put them in there for the heck of it :/
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 		Good News!
Marcus wrote:
I hope you are being safe talking to that guy.

I have been talking very little to Brian since I got here, but people tell me he's safe.

Pegbox left a package with another member in London before all of this happened. She had a plan to get out of London and get something. I am trying to track down where and what through contacts over here. Her next check-in on CFG is according to the protocol supposed to be the 15th. Let's see if she does. :/

Stay strong. Try to get some truth out of that cards-character. We need to find out who this guy is and what he want's.

//M

Sounds like we have some movement!

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Marcus wrote:

We need to find out who this guy is and what he want's.

//M


And using The Friar account I've indeed been attempting to do just that, however to little avail unfortunately.

I've been sending emails to "Jack" but not to any email addresses of BB or Knave's; I've sent them to every conspiracyforgood email I can find, but blind-copied. I've blind copied them so that they cannot see who they've been sent to in hopes that it would elicit a response from Jack. If this would've happened we'd know he was watching cfg emails too. This response from Jack never took place though. Just today I finally got my first response. It was from Marcus, I believe the intention was to tell me that these efforts are now fruitless and the Jacks cannot be found through these means....

My emails were sent (blind copied only) to all of the following addresses, keep in mind this was also to rule out which email addresses were genuine or not as well and possibly discover new ones in the process;

Went through…
lowkey_conspiracyforgood.com (response)
pegbox_conspiracyforgood.com
inspire_conspiracyforgood.com
london_conspiracyforgood.com
press_conspiracyforgood.com
support_conspiracyforgood.com

Bounced back….
77472_conspiracyforgood.com
tuxie_conspiracyforgood.com
vauxhall_conspiracyforgood.com
brianxcleary_conspiracyforgood.com
greenmarine_conspiracyforgood.com
kestrel_conspiracyforgood.com


My message to all of these BCC'ed addresses sent on Tues 6-8….

Quote:
Jack,

Haven't seen a response for an age, did I offend you? Did I hurt your little knave feelings? Well that's just TOO BAD!

-The Friar


Response from lowkey_conspicracyforgood.com sent today, Fri 6-11

Quote:
Thanks for the CC. Let him have it good!


yay
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 		1) i really don't think the colours were thrown in for the heck of it

it makes no sense...sure to be aesthetic, whatever, but that only flies for the blues, what about the pukey mushroom colour

since no one is in chat, i'll say this hear:

1) i started a forum post about brian being hurt...i think it would be great if a few people added to it, maybe it will get brian to respond quicker to our concerns

2) new video is up...another charity one but this one has a background sound of an audio track of two people talking at high speed...may be of initerest

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