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Raj39
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 		Program
Is this it?
I might have found something. Regarding the video "Program", it's been said that the binary code spells "YAMA", but no one really agrees on what it means. Someone else pointed out that the "upside-down s" in the left side of the video may actually be the Greek letter stigma (ϛ). On a whim, I decided to take the letters and transliterate them into similar sounding letters in Greek, to see if it said anything new. Nothing came of it. Then I remembered the suggestion that the code might have to be read upside-down, because the key to "Program", "Advocate", flashes the message "tick tock" upside-down. When you turn "Y" on its head, it reads the letter "lambda" (λ). Now the message reads "λαμα", which according to GoogleTranslate (though not BabelFish) means "BLADE". I think this may be the real deal, because it actually would relate to the rest of the video.

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8bitFilk
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 		Woah! If you're right, that's one hell of a first-time post you just left!
Hope you haven't peaked too early! Wink

Seriously though, good work!

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 		I thought "λ" was just the Half-Life symbol.lol

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Raj39
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8bitFilk wrote:
Woah! If you're right, that's one hell of a first-time post you just left!
Hope you haven't peaked too early! Wink

Seriously though, good work!


Thank you very much! I guess sometimes it pays to be a lurker.

Had another thought. If "blade" is really what "YAMA" means, could it be connected to the knife that Masky stole in Entry 18?

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 		Re: Program
Is this it?
Raj39 wrote:
I might have found something. Regarding the video "Program", it's been said that the binary code spells "YAMA", but no one really agrees on what it means. Someone else pointed out that the "upside-down s" in the left side of the video may actually be the Greek letter stigma (ϛ). On a whim, I decided to take the letters and transliterate them into similar sounding letters in Greek, to see if it said anything new. Nothing came of it. Then I remembered the suggestion that the code might have to be read upside-down, because the key to "Program", "Advocate", flashes the message "tick tock" upside-down. When you turn "Y" on its head, it reads the letter "lambda" (λ). Now the message reads "λαμα", which according to GoogleTranslate (though not BabelFish) means "BLADE". I think this may be the real deal, because it actually would relate to the rest of the video.

8bitFilk wrote:
Woah! If you're right, that's one hell of a first-time post you just left!
Hope you haven't peaked too early! Wink

Seriously though, good work!


Seconded, 8bitfilk! That's an amazing find! O_O

My only question is why only the Y would be turned upside-down and not the rest of the letters/word? I understand that there is no V or W in the Greek alphabet, and this could be really valid, but I'm wondering if we can take it a step further somehow... (Trust me, my brain is working on it, just haven't come up with anything better than this yet ^_^'' It's pretty damn good, Raj!)

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Raj39 wrote:
Had another thought. If "blade" is really what "YAMA" means, could it be connected to the knife that Masky stole in Entry 18?


Gah! Curse my sloth in replying!

I'm not so sure about this one yet. I know I'm playing devil's advocate a bit with your theory (my apologies - not trying to be a jerk, just looking into things!) but I'm not sure this would make sense coming this early in the plot of Season 1. Program and Advocate came after Entries 14 and 15 respectively, so I don't see how/why he'd be referring to a blade he stole over three entries later. Could be foreshadowing, or maybe making a reference to something else (a weapon, or something that is related to / will open / will help find the Ark?).

I wanna keep digging into this theory, though. Maybe 'Blade' or some sort of actual blade comes up somewhere else in the series. I'm gonna try to look for stuff in the TTA videos once I get the time (starting classes tomorrow...).

Good stuff, Raj! Very Happy

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 		Re: Program
Is this it?
Raj39 wrote:
I might have found something. Regarding the video "Program", it's been said that the binary code spells "YAMA", but no one really agrees on what it means. Someone else pointed out that the "upside-down s" in the left side of the video may actually be the Greek letter stigma (ϛ). On a whim, I decided to take the letters and transliterate them into similar sounding letters in Greek, to see if it said anything new. Nothing came of it. Then I remembered the suggestion that the code might have to be read upside-down, because the key to "Program", "Advocate", flashes the message "tick tock" upside-down. When you turn "Y" on its head, it reads the letter "lambda" (λ). Now the message reads "λαμα", which according to GoogleTranslate (though not BabelFish) means "BLADE". I think this may be the real deal, because it actually would relate to the rest of the video.


At first it seemed really convoluted...and something I couldn't see them digging into for us to solve. But when I thought about it, the stigma might mean nothing other than to let us know, "Hey. There's Greek shit in here, flip it upside down, there ya go." So, I wonder what BLADE could mean.

Wasn't it a response to the video where Alex woke up and had blood on his head? Program said "BLEEDMORE" at the end. Maybe BLADE has something to do with that.

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 		What if a specific blade is the only method of defeating the Operator? Could be as simple as that. It'd be cliche for sure, but not out of the realm of possibility.

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Lookbehindyou wrote:
What if a specific blade is the only method of defeating the Operator? Could be as simple as that. It'd be cliche for sure, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Omg this could be one of the best finds yet! Remember in entry 18 how totheark physically attacked Jay. He dosen't do that, thats not his style. But he may have done it because he was afraid of the blade in some way. Like he had to get it away from Jay because its a threat to the operator!


EDIT: The blade could stop totheark/the operator from using their unique abilitys. If totheark acted the way he does normally he would have just taken it from Jay in his sleep. But something about the blade must prevent that and other abilitys of totheark/theoperator. So once totheark removed the blade from Jay by using a direct confrontation he could then use his ability to send him to the car.

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 		Someone might want to add blade to the list of potential items in the safe then should the safe ever come into play again. Could be keeping the Operator at bay even. Something about the safe is bugging me too, like it's simple and being overlooked. I'm going to go back and watch the scene with it in again and if I think of anything else, I'll update this post.

I'm glad I can add something to this, as puzzles aren't my strongpoint, but I know a lot about creative writing.

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yroc1234 wrote:
Lookbehindyou wrote:
What if a specific blade is the only method of defeating the Operator? Could be as simple as that. It'd be cliche for sure, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Omg this could be one of the best finds yet! Remember in entry 18 how totheark physically attacked Jay. He dosen't do that, thats not his style. But he may have done it because he was afraid of the blade in some way. Like he had to get it away from Jay because its a threat to the operator!


EDIT: The blade could stop totheark/the operator from using their unique abilitys. If totheark acted the way he does normally he would have just taken it from Jay in his sleep. But something about the blade must prevent that and other abilitys of totheark/theoperator. So once totheark removed the blade from Jay by using a direct confrontation he could then use his ability to send him to the car.


That'd mean TTA is masky, which I don't agree with at all.

But that blade thing, I'm thinking that blade has something to do with J, ie. J is the blade? maybe, Do't take a blade? or, going with the quoted post, he was saying to bring a blade with him because thats the only thing he can kill masky with? Idk, but it wakes sense to me that it means blade, better than Yama :/

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 		Re: Program
Is this it?
Raj39 wrote:
I might have found something. Regarding the video "Program", it's been said that the binary code spells "YAMA", but no one really agrees on what it means. Someone else pointed out that the "upside-down s" in the left side of the video may actually be the Greek letter stigma (ϛ). On a whim, I decided to take the letters and transliterate them into similar sounding letters in Greek, to see if it said anything new. Nothing came of it. Then I remembered the suggestion that the code might have to be read upside-down, because the key to "Program", "Advocate", flashes the message "tick tock" upside-down. When you turn "Y" on its head, it reads the letter "lambda" (λ). Now the message reads "λαμα", which according to GoogleTranslate (though not BabelFish) means "BLADE". I think this may be the real deal, because it actually would relate to the rest of the video.


That is a pretty cool find, Raj! Kudos for spotting it! Like Redherring said, Program came before #16, so it likely doesn't relate to Jay's loss of knife.

It makes me think of mocking, you know -- 'poor emo baby, go cut your wrists~' what with the 'bleed more' at the end in response to Alex's bloody head. Following a tangent, but after #16 was posted, the things that Jay found did seem an awful lot like they followed themes of death (and maybe even suicide?) pills, a bullet casing, blood in the sink... the connection of 'blade' seems to fit that too, though this is just me drawing connections where there might not be any.

It could have been a warning, too. Using a blade against the Operator will not help you in the least, in fact, you're more likely to be hurt -- which could also be why Jay had his own knife taken in the house before he was returned to the car.

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 		Re: Program
Is this it?
Dray wrote:
It makes me think of mocking, you know -- 'poor emo baby, go cut your wrists~' what with the 'bleed more' at the end in response to Alex's bloody head. Following a tangent, but after #16 was posted, the things that Jay found did seem an awful lot like they followed themes of death (and maybe even suicide?) pills, a bullet casing, blood in the sink... the connection of 'blade' seems to fit that too, though this is just me drawing connections where there might not be any.


^ This
Not only that, YAMA is a "god of death" or whatever (which I know has been mentioned) again going with that theme, BLADE or not.

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 		I suppose I'll throw in a couple different theories about the Program vid as well.

A couple things about Yama that I haven't seen anyone else post (and I'm really surprised!):
Yama is the God of Death in the sense that he's the Judge for the Dead. He judges the dead to see how much they need to suffer in Hell before being reincarnated. Maybe it's a clue to how the Operator works. Depending on how bad you are (or how much negative energy you have, or whatever), is how long the Operator will screw with you before he ??? (eats you? Kills you?).
Yama means twin. Maybe signifying that there's more than one masky that share the same style mask? Two different people with the same face. Like, what if the maskies from Entry 18 and 19 are actually two different people? (Tim and Brian?)
Yama is said to be the first mortal to have died. Since Program is a response to Entry 14 (the one where the Operator hurts someone [Alex] for the first time), maybe it's telling us that the Operator has picked the first to die?

As for the blade being able to stop the Operator thing, I was actually reminded of this fantasy series I read a long time ago. In it, anyone who tried to use that series' type of magic while their blood was in contact with any sort of metal would suffer tremendous pain, and wouldn't be able to use their magic any more. Maybe the same thing could apply to the Operator. Stab him, and his ECT field gets totally fucked up. Idk, just some food for thought.

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Rogue Thoughts wrote:
Yama means twin. Maybe signifying that there's more than one masky that share the same style mask? Two different people with the same face. Like, what if the maskies from Entry 18 and 19 are actually two different people? (Tim and Brian?)
Yama is said to be the first mortal to have died. Since Program is a response to Entry 14 (the one where the Operator hurts someone [Alex] for the first time), maybe it's telling us that the Operator has picked the first to die?


I read that yama meant twin too. First thing I thought was 2 maskies also, Brian and Tim. Of course, I could see the "Alex has been marked to die first" theory being legit.

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 		Sorry if this has been put forward before, but I've had my fill of sifting through argument after argument and I haven't seen this put forward before.

Let's assume there is an unidentified person related in some way to the
MH crew who is Masky. Let's also assume that totheark is a username meant to be a form of personal address, as in "To: The Ark." let's further assume that the person in charge of this account is Masky.

Now. The pieces that make this fit:

1) several members of the MH crew go unaccounted for both during production of the film and while J is sleuthing it up. These people could have been/could currently be Masky. They would also have had access to the tapes either through helping load stuff into cars or by being involved in the filming process. Lots of tapes = a good chance a few wouldn't be missed.

2) when J first visits The House where Brian is supposedly at (according to an anonymous tip) he has a coughing fit and is filmed by the person who has access to the TTA YouTube account. This person could be Masky due to later happenings at The House.

3) Masky appears in one or more of the TTA videos. Presumably he is the one editing the films. He is probably also the one filming them. It's the simplest answer. Involving another cameraman would be both cumbersome and make it harder to be stealthy.

That's all I've got for now. Hopefully I'm not waving around a giant stinky trout bag:p

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