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jjocke
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Schmedly27 wrote:
And also in entry ######## TTA refers to 'We'


Entry ######## was uploaded as a hacked entry onto Jay's marblehornets account, but we don't know for sure it was TTA that posted it.

Possible and maybe probable, but not established as fact.

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Schmedly27
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 		But regardless of whether it was TTA or not it still hints at more than one Masky with the 'We'

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bobthecrusher
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 		Re: Warning
ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
bobthecrusher wrote:

Anyway, warning was the last video. I'm to the persuasion that Alex is either dead or has no access to the computer, or else the video from his camera wouldn't have been sent in the mail, I don't think the video of Alex being attacked by Operator was sent by TTA in any case,it's not his style, though I suppose Warning could have been a precursor to the Video, like I warned you, and if you don't stop this will be you.


Well you are very much set on this Alex is totheark thing, huh? Do you mind if I ask why?


Mainly just circumstantial evidence. TTA dropped off the face of the Earth, for no apparent reason, just at the time Alex was attacked by The Operator. Someone sends J a text message with the date of the attack on Alex in it, at this moment I think it switches from Alex to Masky or someone similar sending him the box with the tape. It also makes sens efor the tape to have been sent to him by TTA in a way, because if it was Alex, he wouldn't have been able to post the video online himself. last TTA video was February third 2010, before Alex was attacked.

I think Alex is TTA because I don't think masky is TTA. It seems like too much of a give away, J said straight out that he thought TTA was Masky, if they give it to you that way it's most likely not correct (when has J ever been right?) It also seems that while TTA was there either just before or just after the first appearance of masky that he's warning J about Masky and the threat he poses.

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Philosopher Xu
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 		I am in agreement with Bob, that Alex is TTA. For the reasons given above, plus:

1. Exit video - probably filmed by Alex
2. Alex has all the equipment and training needed to make the videos, we've never seen any of that from Masky/Tim
3. Masky appearing in totheark videos is not firm proof that he created them, in fact its more likely someone else did the filming

The most likely scenario in my mind is that Masky is a sort of assistant to TTA, who is Alex, who for whatever reason can't or doesn't want to go near J. Masky/Tim just doesn't seem subtle or smart enough to be responsible for the TTA videos, in fact he seems more of a bumbler.

So can we please agree that there is some disagreement here and not assume that Masky=TTA as I saw in the wiki and elsewhere on the forum.

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Raj39
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Schmedly27 wrote:
On the whole Tim=Masky=TTA the evidence for Tim being masky is always the jacket

but in entry 18 I think, the first time Jay ever sees Masky he is wearing a black hoodie (perhaps the one form the twitter picture)

And also in entry ######## TTA refers to 'We'

So perhaps two Maskys?


The "We" is probably a reference to both Totheark and the Operator. The (X) symbol that appears at the end of several Totheark videos is likely a signature indicating that the messages are coming from Slendy. "Return" is also good evidence for this point.

And Entry 18's Masky looks nearly identical to Entry 19's.

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 		I do believe, that Alex is evil. he started filming himself as a way to lure slender man towards him so it gave slender man the eyes to see, than alex learned how to control him through his camera.. He got slender man to capture his friends and people around him, than moved away to use slender mans power else where. in entry 26, that video is made by tim/mask man, to show j that alex is alive but causing the problems. that explains why alex was so calm when his gf entered the room. he new that slenderman would show up. than it would be feeding time. he told her to head down the street and what was he gonna do? ill be right behind you?? sounds suspicious to me. totheark is a title for the mask man. which is tim hiding his face from being filmed so he wont be recognized. thats why in entry 33 he slaps the camera. as if to say. you idiot quit filming youself, now you have to go. ARK means Alex Robert Kralie if you ask me. thats why the "help" at the end of 26 is there, tim is asking for jays help. as if to say...look at what hes doing. lead me to him so we can stop this.

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 		i also think that. Alex' irrratibility is showing slender mans slow possesion of his mind, slender man has no face. he needs eyes to see. so alexis camera is his eyes. alex is slender man puppeteer. YAMA = blade...might be telling jay in the entry where alex is bleeding. Alex didnt do this himslef he used a blade and slender man made him film himself. slender man has complete control of alex. thats all it means.

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Schmedly27
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 		The "We" is probably a reference to both Totheark and the Operator. The (X) symbol that appears at the end of several Totheark videos is likely a signature indicating that the messages are coming from Slendy. "Return" is also good evidence for this point.

And Entry 18's Masky looks nearly identical to Entry 19's.[/quote]

He's not wearing Masky's trademark jacket though

and, assuming the tape from 26 was from Alex,Alex uses the (X) symbol too, and it wasn't coming from slendy

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 		yeah but, that x in some theories is a lens being crossed out. slender man needs a camera to see people and recognize there faces. that symbol would be from someone like to the ark. also it might be used as a way to blind slendy from seeing the videos. if that symbol appears he cant view it. like a shield. to totheark might be using it...like on the safe code for instances,,,,so slender man cant view it and take those tapes. which in reality taking those tapes is like taking slender mans memories. alex said it himself, i see what sees me. In the one entry where slender man is in the window behind tim, slender man is there to see tims face. hes looking through the camera. tim sometime after becanme aware. was being stalked and had slender sickness, than realized he needed to wear a mask to go undetected.

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SevenSherlockS
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the0perator wrote:
yeah but, that x in some theories is a lens being crossed out. slender man needs a camera to see people and recognize there faces. that symbol would be from someone like to the ark. also it might be used as a way to blind slendy from seeing the videos. if that symbol appears he cant view it. like a shield. to totheark might be using it...like on the safe code for instances,,,,so slender man cant view it and take those tapes. which in reality taking those tapes is like taking slender mans memories. alex said it himself, i see what sees me. In the one entry where slender man is in the window behind tim, slender man is there to see tims face. hes looking through the camera. tim sometime after becanme aware. was being stalked and had slender sickness, than realized he needed to wear a mask to go undetected.


Or maybe the the O just stands for operator and it's being crossed out.

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Zerda
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the0perator wrote:
I do believe, that Alex is evil. he started filming himself as a way to lure slender man towards him so it gave slender man the eyes to see, than alex learned how to control him through his camera.. He got slender man to capture his friends and people around him, than moved away to use slender mans power else where. in entry 26, that video is made by tim/mask man, to show j that alex is alive but causing the problems. that explains why alex was so calm when his gf entered the room. he new that slenderman would show up. than it would be feeding time. he told her to head down the street and what was he gonna do? ill be right behind you?? sounds suspicious to me. totheark is a title for the mask man. which is tim hiding his face from being filmed so he wont be recognized. thats why in entry 33 he slaps the camera. as if to say. you idiot quit filming youself, now you have to go. ARK means Alex Robert Kralie if you ask me. thats why the "help" at the end of 26 is there, tim is asking for jays help. as if to say...look at what hes doing. lead me to him so we can stop this.
That made no sense at all. Alex is always shown being scared and stressed out in the original entries. Not only that, but doesn't it make much more sense that Alex would tell his girlfriend to run away if he ACTUALLY wanted her to run away? If he wanted Slendy to eat her he would have just sat back and done nothing. Oh, and the creators of the series themselves said that Alex's middle name ISN'T Robert, nor does it start with R at all. Now I agree with the idea that Tim MIGHT be Masky, but he still has attacked Jay several times.

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TheBioGuy
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 		Re: Warning
bobthecrusher wrote:

Mainly just circumstantial evidence. TTA dropped off the face of the Earth, for no apparent reason, just at the time Alex was attacked by The Operator. Someone sends J a text message with the date of the attack on Alex in it, at this moment I think it switches from Alex to Masky or someone similar sending him the box with the tape. It also makes sens efor the tape to have been sent to him by TTA in a way, because if it was Alex, he wouldn't have been able to post the video online himself. last TTA video was February third 2010, before Alex was attacked.

I think Alex is TTA because I don't think masky is TTA. It seems like too much of a give away, J said straight out that he thought TTA was Masky, if they give it to you that way it's most likely not correct (when has J ever been right?) It also seems that while TTA was there either just before or just after the first appearance of masky that he's warning J about Masky and the threat he poses.


I'm SO glad to finally hear some good evidence for this. It's definitely a coherent theory. Not that it has won me over, but this was very clear, and is a great jumping off point for many good theories to be extrapolated from! Thanks, bob! I don't know how much I buy your second paragraph, it seems like it could be led into some circular logic quickly if I was making an effort, but since I like the rest of your theory a lot, I'll overlook that.

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Dray
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 		Re: Warning
bobthecrusher wrote:
Mainly just circumstantial evidence. TTA dropped off the face of the Earth, for no apparent reason, just at the time Alex was attacked by The Operator. Someone sends J a text message with the date of the attack on Alex in it, at this moment I think it switches from Alex to Masky or someone similar sending him the box with the tape. It also makes sense for the tape to have been sent to him by TTA in a way, because if it was Alex, he wouldn't have been able to post the video online himself. last TTA video was February third 2010, before Alex was attacked.

I think Alex is TTA because I don't think masky is TTA. It seems like too much of a give away, J said straight out that he thought TTA was Masky, if they give it to you that way it's most likely not correct (when has J ever been right?) It also seems that while TTA was there either just before or just after the first appearance of masky that he's warning J about Masky and the threat he poses.


The only problem with it is that TTA didn't drop off the face of the earth at the same time as Alex, as you mentioned. It was months beforehand. The events of the tape happened on April 4th, meaning that he'd have had two months to upload anything in the meantime. They seemed to try to avoid leaving gaps that long between either set of entries -- 2-3 weeks at the most, IIRC -- and in that time, ###### came out right on schedule. Wouldn't it make more sense that, since the voice in ###### mentioned that they were through with games, the lack of updates would have been a conscious choice and not due to Slender Attack?

I don't think that giving away too much or too little is necessarily a good reason to found a theory in Marble Hornets. They haven't been telling a conventional story: it has been shown that quite frequently, they do things that nobody expected.

In regards to the warning about Masky, do you mean Messages with the Tim face overlay? Here, I had thought that since TTA knew that Jay was keeping secrets, it was more a, "I'll reveal one of mine, you post one of yours." It doesn't necessarily mean that it was a warning.

Not to say that Alex couldn't have been in on this somehow, at some point. To have been in so deep and then spent three years thereafter with squeeky clean hands seems very odd to me. More interconnectivity behind the scenes of the characters is a very nice thought!

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 		Hey guys, I decided to try working on decoding Deluge, but I remembered I have no knowledge of how morse code works... Can someone just explain to me really quick how I'm supposed to tell where each letter stops/begins?

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Jynx62009
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Indextic wrote:
Hey guys, I decided to try working on decoding Deluge, but I remembered I have no knowledge of how morse code works... Can someone just explain to me really quick how I'm supposed to tell where each letter stops/begins?


If I remember right, someone cracked it and the morse turns out to be translated to the letter J.

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