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RasGold
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Melodyman wrote:
^ Little Jedi Mind Trick there Ras? hehe..
Well, of course then, the only thing to do is to have the PM's steer us away from any trouble by releasing the next clue asap, correct?

I think,

I think I am ...

Therefor, ...

I am.

I think.

j/k (Moody Blues Quote)

I just think we should avoid any more .gov sites as reference to this viral.
The HP/IP incident got me into a bit of hot water ... I'm certainly NOT supposed to be using work computers/technicians for this sort of ... um ... thing.

I would assume that many of the "players" in this ARG are between the ages of 14 - 24 ... I wouldn't want their little minds to asplode at such an early age Wink
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AmblinAlong
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I apologize for me and probably a majority here that were not DUMB enough to think it lead to an IP address nor were DUMB enough to go as far as to contact people in businesses etc that any normal person would know has NOTHING to JJ.

HE is sitting at home drinking his own version of a slusho(an ICEE with some rum) laughing at people that are going WAY outside of the realm of normal problem solving.

Its a puzzle that will lead to things they designed or are in the real world and our PUBLIC.

just my two cents. and not picking you out since other people are making simliar errors.

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SeekerX
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I have some STRONG point that 16180339 is the right way to read it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

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RasGold
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The IP Address ...

AmblinAlong wrote:
I apologize for me and probably a majority here that were not DUMB enough to think it lead to an IP address ...

Apology accepted ...

Tho, other ARG clues have led to IP addresses in the past ...
Just saying.
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I have a feeling this is only the first part of audio clips and that when there are more they will be meant to be either properly arranged or layered. Also after listening to it for about 15 min. straight it sounds like a distorted voice saying 2,3,2,4,2,1,1,5. I know that's more than likely wrong but now I can't get it out of my head Confused

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SeekerX wrote:
I have some STRONG point that 16180339 is the right way to read it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

Dude ... Where do you think my SN hailed from?

I've used it as my moniker since 1991!

Shifty Eyes
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Tracker_56
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I post this only that it may get someone else thinking in a different direction, because my experiment didn't yield anything interesting.

Just for the sake of it, I split the left and right channels of the sound. There is slight variation between the two so once split, I laid them side by side and matched them so that they lined up. I then inverted one of the two tracks thinking that they would mostly cancel each other out and possibly reveal something. The combination was just faint and more garbled, but as I said before, I post this only in hopes that it gets someone else's brain working on something.

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Oshovah
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SeekerX wrote:
I have some STRONG point that 16180339 is the right way to read it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio


Brilliant! I really think you're on to something. This connection definitely seems very ARG-ish. I wonder what this potential clue is supposed to mean, though.

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slinkydge
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SeekerX wrote:
I have some STRONG point that 16180339 is the right way to read it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio


I love the Golden Ratio - it is Mean! lol... this is my strong point and something I've been thinking about for a while. let's not forget we sent this into to space many years ago with Leonardo's Divine Proportion. I'm going to work a bit more on this.....

Tracker_56 wrote:
I post this only that it may get someone else thinking in a different direction, because my experiment didn't yield anything interesting.

Just for the sake of it, I split the left and right channels of the sound. There is slight variation between the two so once split, I laid them side by side and matched them so that they lined up. I then inverted one of the two tracks thinking that they would mostly cancel each other out and possibly reveal something. The combination was just faint and more garbled, but as I said before, I post this only in hopes that it gets someone else's brain working on something.


I noticed that (as already said) the first half of the notes are on the beat, the second half on the off beat, can they be over layed? Or layed in the middle dead zone of the other beats?

Also, are the notes covering up any background noise, like the tones are there to put us off and we should be listening to what is behind/under the music? as loads of peeps mentioned back ground noise, maybe it is that which we should be listening too.

Also, any links with E 6425 K or i 21 + 70.44 to music reference that we can think of?

Also, check this out, I figured maybe it was a peice of music as well that we had to identify, and it had something to do with the title maybe, anyway my investivgation led me to this:

May 1975 People's Computer Company
By Steve Dompier
One of the first documented instances of computer music generated by a microcomputer appeared in the May 1975 Peoples Computer Company publication. Borrowing from the same techniques used to output music from the IBM 1401 and Digital PDP 1 computers, Steve Dompier discovered how to send computerized music from his Altair 8800 to an AM radio receiver for playback. This article was later republished in February 1976 Dr. Dobbs Journal of Computer Calisthenics & Orthodontia and shows the reader how to toggle instructions using the Altair front panel and "record" simple songs. The music is "broadcast" by the computer whirring quickly through the machine instructions and producing harmonic interference that can be picked up by an AM radio in the form of tone pulses. The program code simply times pulses at selected frequencies that represent notes in the scale, C-D-E-F-G-A-B and the sharp/flat tones.


Read this article, I think the zzziiippp noise he is referring to is the noise we are hearing at the end of the Mp3, the computer processing the numbers of the tones.
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/cisc367/dr%20dobbs%20feb%201976%20Music%20With%20Altair.pdf

this article refers to the 8bit computer music, the middle C scale and frequencies: http://vintagecomputer.net/CISC367/Byte%20September%201977%20ASamplingComputeMusicTechn.pdf

Here's the frequency table can any one see the links to the E 6425 K or i 21 + 70.44 here? http://www.vintagecomputer.net/images/note-frequency-table.jpg

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I don't know why one would have to go to crazy lengths to check if a number sequence is a valid IP that might relate to the game, but I guess that's because I know how to investigate an IP in a simple, legal method. All IP ranges for public use (not for LAN [Local Area Network] use) can be looked up through any of the internet number registries. It's public info. The registry for the Americas is ARIN. For an IP to be of any real use though, it'd need to be tied to a domain we know is an IG resource. If you suspect an IG resource is using the same said IP, all you have to do is ping the domain name you know is IG, and you'll see the IP the domain is hosted from in the ping responses. Simple stuff really, and the default for the ping function in most OSs is 10 small packets of data which no valid domain is going to see as an intrusion or be hurt by.

I don't get your path of research RasGold, because ARIN tells me your numbers as an IP are owned by HP. A computer doesn't take it's IP with it, it gets it's IP from whatever is hosting it's network connection. Nothing I can see leads between terragames.org and HP, and the IP for terragames.org is 205.234.128.153 according to a current ping of the domain. No idea how you are saying the one leads to the other.
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CoSzaro1107
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Are you SURE on those music notes?
you said C# F# C# G# C D# D# A#, and another said B#(wouldn't that be C flat?)

I do believe its a solid A at the end, it was very high though. I rechecked it and everything though, I may not be a music major, but the freshly tuned guitar does not lie.

I have a feeling though that these notes don't mean anything.

EXCEPT, when PEOPLE are talking, their tones and notes are all over the place, these were almost in a solid key. could this be a song, just very, very distorted?

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slinkydge
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thebruce wrote:
based on a spectrogram of the sound, it looks just like the quality of each tone is getting worse, like interference. Estimating the general frequency of each tone, it looks like they match primarily to: (in hz)

600, 750, 600, 850, 550, 650, 650, 950

or if using 550hz as base, and increments of 50 hz:

2, 5, 2, 7, 1, 3, 3, 9

however that decodes, no idea yet...


Hi Bruce, see my post above, does this help: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/images/note-frequency-table.jpg

I've been trying to follow on from your investigation... the frequencies the computer used and what people are getting now seem to be a couple of digits out, I'm guessing we should be using 70's equipment to work it out?

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ComptonAssJohn
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Looking at the wave visualizations, I don't think there is any real difference btw the L and R channels. Maybe people's perceptions are off from listening too closely.

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RasGold
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The IP Address ...
What led to my original thought ...

Euchre wrote:
I don't know why one would have to go to crazy lengths to check if a number sequence is a valid IP that might relate to the game, ... A computer doesn't take it's IP with it, it gets it's IP from whatever is hosting it's network connection. Nothing I can see leads between terragames.org and HP, ...

Right ... terragames is just a site created by Tom Carlino who works out of the Arastradero Preserve (where the IP 16.181.33.8 led me http://en.utrace.de/ip-address/16.181.33.8 then zoom into the map view and you will see what I meant).

Because of the fact it seemed located in the middle of nowhere, my IT guy assumes that HP had set up the location in a lookout post on the preserve.

Either way ... I don't think breaking down the sound file will reveal anything (other than a number sequence we have not yet resolved).
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Has anyone thought about sending in recrutment form from the newspaper to see if anything is returned?

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