Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
 
The time now is Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:15 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)
View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Slender Man Mythos
[LOCKED] [Video Side Story] TribeTwelve
Moderators: ChildOfAtom, Cougar Draven, DavFlamerock, Dixie_Wolf, ndemeter
View previous topicView next topic
Page 215 of 554 [8308 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, ..., 552, 553, 554  Next
Author Message
NoMoreGaems
Unfettered


Joined: 17 Sep 2010
Posts: 627

The way I see it, you can do it one of two ways:

1: Frequently (more than once every week and a half, basically) put out a video, usually short, so that the sum experience while watching it is of a real time narrative. Videos build suspense for following videos, small and less interesting things are allowed to happen because they're being made up for by larger and more interesting things soon after, basically keep them short and keep them coming.

2: Infrequently (once every two weeks or longer) put out a video, usually long, that stands on its own as an experience from beginning to end. Videos don't need to build suspense for following videos because the video does that on its own, small events are glossed over or just subsumed into a larger narrative, basically let it speak for itself as a full length episode rather than as something that needs to have a dozen small update videos leading up to it.

Tribe Twelve (largely) follows the second pattern, and that's what I like about it. Marble Hornets (largely) follows the first pattern, and that's what I like about it. Either way is possible, either way is viable, just as long as the plot can support either version.

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:19 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Carnahan
Decorated

Joined: 28 May 2010
Posts: 215
Location: NJ

Yeah, again, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to shoot anyone's points down at all.

I just agree with some of the "bipolar" (as someone called it) sentiment that's prevalent in the viewer-base.

It's like Rearden Metal, x2. (Damn your freakin' series - it takes too long to make! NEW VIDEO - OMQ we love it... two weeks later, repeat.)

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:07 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
mokie
Unfettered

Joined: 22 Mar 2011
Posts: 374

I think RatheadSyndicate nails it with verisimilitude, but I'd lean in the other direction there too. A scheduled stalking is unrealistic, but so is upping the ante with a big reveal, then breaking months of radio silence with, "Hey, how you guys doing?" The issue at hand for me is effective storytelling--you can't raise the tension and then just drop it. If you end with (for example) cops at the door, the audience is going to wait to hear why, and your 'why' needs to factor in how long they had to wait (e.g. "Holy crap, I got deported!"). If you've got a long gap between updates, make it PART of the story so it takes advantage of the tension you've already created.

As much as folks gripe about the audience not appreciating the time and effort and how nobody's being paid for this, it's difficult for the audience to stay in the story when there is no story for a month, or three, or seven; that's the gist of the griping. Little bits of meat every so often (and, as I said, I do consider the TT tweet about dreams to be meat) help keep the audience on track. It doesn't have to be video, it just has to be story.

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 12:44 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
qaqa
Unfictologist


Joined: 23 Oct 2010
Posts: 1660

Yes, bipolar syndrome is why I tend not to take some pockets of backlash seriously at all.

TT's schedule has, fortunately, almost always been quite staggered. It's become its norm and so every entry has found the time to become something pretty spectacular. I think its slow, doomed, new-horrors-each-time pace works very well for it and sets it apart from the rest, actually.

I do think the formspring is a brilliant device for interaction other shows could have done well to pick up - I think I got some info out of that which I forgot to ever share here, in fact, if I can just remember all of it - and I think that could be utilized more during production breaks.

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:10 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Slendery
Unfettered


Joined: 09 Aug 2010
Posts: 490

SoulHammer wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Hell, I haven't been complaining, I've just been saying "Wouldn't it be good if Slendyvloggers actually learned from this sort of experience and did more advance planning?" Noah gets a pass because he was in the first wave.


So in your opinion what would be a good update schedule?


The best update schedule for a slenderman series is to not have a schedule at all. It keeps viewers on their toes, not knowing when or what will happen next. Also, it not feeling planned adds to realism, plus an unexpected pleasant surprise is usually better than a planned catastrophe. Rolling Eyes
_________________

Watching...
Waiting...
FOR YOU.


PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:54 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
awakeasaurusrex
Entrenched


Joined: 12 Oct 2010
Posts: 1099

SoulHammer wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Hell, I haven't been complaining, I've just been saying "Wouldn't it be good if Slendyvloggers actually learned from this sort of experience and did more advance planning?" Noah gets a pass because he was in the first wave.


So in your opinion what would be a good update schedule?

One which suits the needs of the vlogging team in question. The point isn't to adhere to a schedule dictated by the external needs of unfiction, the point is to come up with a schedule that the vlogging team in question will be able to handle and then planning information releases and pacing based on that. Obviously, a vlogging team which realises that it's only going to be able to release one video every month or so is going to take a very different approach to writing and preparing than one which is able to release one or two videos a week, and both will be in a better position to plan and prepare than a team that just kicks off their slendyvlog without any long-term planning at all.

Oh and Slendery, I agree that the specific timing of video releases shouldn't be predictable. But surely you can see that if a vlogging team works out in advance that they'll be able to do an average of a video every week or so (or every month or so, or whatever) that can only help the process of planning out the series.

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:14 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
pravado
Unfictologist

Joined: 22 Apr 2011
Posts: 1833

the real problem i have with TT is the lack of effort. when it's clear he's procrastinating, he'll put up BS twitter posts. When you go 2+ weeks without a video, it loses it's edge because now you think "oh two weeks without getting stalked by slendy he must be fine", defeating the element of worry for this character.

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:54 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
AfterHours
Decorated


Joined: 05 Mar 2011
Posts: 160
Location: San Diego, CA

pravado wrote:
the real problem i have with TT is the lack of effort. when it's clear he's procrastinating, he'll put up BS twitter posts. When you go 2+ weeks without a video, it loses it's edge because now you think "oh two weeks without getting stalked by slendy he must be fine", defeating the element of worry for this character.


Ha ha ha, you and your wrong opinions. If you think there's a lack of effort, look at Nature Trail Visit. That is all.

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:12 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Carnahan
Decorated

Joined: 28 May 2010
Posts: 215
Location: NJ

pravado wrote:
the real problem i have with TT is the lack of effort. when it's clear he's procrastinating, he'll put up BS twitter posts. When you go 2+ weeks without a video, it loses it's edge because now you think "oh two weeks without getting stalked by slendy he must be fine", defeating the element of worry for this character.


This is what I meant. Again, if this is the audience and feedback the creator receives, before the thought of monetary gain or EVEN POSITIVE FEEDBACK AT A JOB WELL DONE, then to hell with the production schedule, I say.

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:13 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
qaqa
Unfictologist


Joined: 23 Oct 2010
Posts: 1660

I must insist TT not worry, as many of us know how hard Nimbus works.

Wait, where is the gif. Oh, I actually prefer this today.



Too big?

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:39 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Slendery
Unfettered


Joined: 09 Aug 2010
Posts: 490

pravado wrote:
the real problem i have with TT is the lack of effort.


Are you serious mate?

_________________

Watching...
Waiting...
FOR YOU.


PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:01 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Bartok
Decorated


Joined: 06 Oct 2010
Posts: 271

HERP DERP LETS FORGET ABOUT THE EPIC CONTENT OF THE SERIES AND BITCH ABOUT WHY THERE'S NOT A NEW VIDEO Confused



HERP DERP LETS FORGET ABOUT THE COMPANY'S EPIC GAMES AND BITCH ABOUT WHY THERE'S NOT A NEW HALF-LIFE GAME Confused


_________________
Currently Playing:
MarbleHornets - Neutral
TribeTwelve - Very Happy
EMH - Rolling Eyes
DarkHarvest - Razz
MLAndersen - Smile
CaughtNotSleeping - Surprised


PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:12 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Ryudragon
Decorated


Joined: 21 Jan 2011
Posts: 263

Are you implying Noah works for Valve?

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:02 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
ForeverDazed
Boot


Joined: 21 Jan 2011
Posts: 47

Spoiled for OOG reference.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Adam's computer crashed and he lost a lot of information. Some of it was TT stuff, and he has to redo it. He's been trying to get a hold of a new hard drive, but there hasn't been much success so far. That's why there's been no video update. That's why he's putting up those tweets. He's trying to give us something until his computer is fixed.

_________________
Scroll Down. Or Up. Either way works. =D

Currently Watching: Marble Hornets, EverymanHYBRID, TribeTwelve, Angel's Game, Dark Harvest, MLAnderson0.


PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:10 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
alejlujah
Veteran


Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Posts: 98
Location: Miami

ForeverDazed wrote:
Spoiled for OOG reference.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Adam's computer crashed and he lost a lot of information. Some of it was TT stuff, and he has to redo it. He's been trying to get a hold of a new hard drive, but there hasn't been much success so far. That's why there's been no video update. That's why he's putting up those tweets. He's trying to give us something until his computer is fixed.


Dazed has it. Spoiler'd for slight elaboration on the above.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Adam said he would have had a new video up by now, but what do you do when you have a major malfunction like that? Try having your hard drive fail on you during finals week when you're also trying to get some new content out....


Anyways, he's also been updating his formspring pretty regularly lately. Lots of character building stuff and trolling, but there is the occasional serious question answered. Check that if you're starving for content. :/

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:35 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 215 of 554 [8308 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, ..., 552, 553, 554  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Slender Man Mythos
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group