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Zeethra
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Theory:
Since alternate decisions and timelines are infinite, does that mean proxies are infinite, slenderman is infinite and maybe good proxies are infinite?
Does this mean the good proxies are the lesser infinite or did Slenderman seal them away somehow?
If so does this Slenderman therefore could control time but also the order of the altogether universe?
Does the journal and the blade have something to do with the order of time? Does it destroy all other paradoxes until there is one set timeline? If so, they're basically the uninverses personified. Is such a small thing...?
Oh, maybe that's why the Collective can't touch it?
Maybe... Noah can fix everything... Maybe the Slenderman can be destroyed if he gets a hold of these things...

EDIT:
Noah hears the Noah in the closet at 5:37 in The Device and gets that ball thing.

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SignerJ
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So, uhh... Where should I start?

First of all, I agree with some people: I think that the Observer meant for Noah to go back to the closet and the hotel. However, I think that the Observer's plans messed up when Noah was transported back to present(?).

Second of all, while I don't like the theory, I have to say that I am a follower of "the Collective recruit themselves." Look at 3:25 in INTERCEPTION. The blacked-out text is about the size of "We are," making it "We are our saviors and enslavers."


SHODAN wrote:
So Firebrand is Noah after being 'taken' for the final time from a previous timeline? If the collective already have Noah as Firebrand why do they need him again? Did Noah not get the journal when they 'took' him so they're cheating and trying again?


I think that Firebrand has created a paradox, as he said that he would in INTERCEPTION. Since the Collective is in a timeless dimension, paradoxes mean almost nothing to them, because Time means nothing. We have seen the Observer mess with Time before, and now we've seen Firebrand create a paradox. All within the power of the Collective -- or, rather, the Administrator.


Finally, I don't think that we should trust Firebrand. As numerous people have said before me, he is part of the Collective, and under control of the Administrator. I think that he is just trying to manipulate Noah into getting the Journal for the Collective before they absorb him.


And I love the new tentacles!

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MariahTedder
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I really hope that we find out more about the Robert guy, whom was mentioned by Firebrand in Interception. He was the name that was blacked out as to whom Noah needed to bring something. He honestly could be Swain because both of them have no leads/info that we know of.

I think Noah needs to check out his tech guy Edward again because that image seriously looks like him.

I know I'm being pretty redundant about this point but I've got a feeling he's in PRETTY deep.

And I love the whole Collective has to recruit themselves throughout infinite universes and maybe EACH RECRUITMENT IS CALLED A SESSION. Observer did say there are infinite sessions. There might be infinite universes as well and in order to prevent the timelines from changing, the Administrator sends out all of the Collective members to recruit themselves in all forms to prevent any switches from happening that could end up in a Matrix-style deletion of themselves.

Maybe the journal has knowledge about wormholes/vortexes. Firebrand mentioned that he tore a hole in the dimension and maybe the journal could seal it. But if the Collective members are outside the dimension when it is sealed, maybe they are stopped forever but if they are inside...then it's truly game over.

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Ithilwen22
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ZOMG. That was awesome. And confusing. And horrifying. And AWESOME.

I'm not even going to get into the timey wimey stuff, because it will make my head hurt.

THANK YOU ADAM CLAUS.

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MexicanIlluminatus
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So who was the entity standing over Noah's bed in the "November 11th" video? The one appeared to be wearing a white hoodie? Observer? Firebrand? MASKY?!?

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Peppercorn
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I always assumed that a "session" is a task that someone, human or in the Collective, must complete for the Collective, and that once it is done, they are no longer needed and would be disposed of in some way. But it probably means much more than that and I guess its full meaning won't be revealed until the end.

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MexicanIlluminatus
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Also, this is something that I think has not been discussed much:

Who are those three people with masks we see at 1:27 in the "INTERCEPTION" video??

Are we just supposed to assume they are members of The Order? If so, why does the text accompanying their picture read "we all counted on you"?

Are they random unnamed members of the Collective?

Is the one in the middle (the only one who looks male) Swain?

I think this deserves more attention.

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Peppercorn
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MexicanIlluminatus wrote:
Also, this is something that I think has not been discussed much:

Who are those three people with masks we see at 1:27 in the "INTERCEPTION" video??

Are we just supposed to assume they are members of The Order? If so, why does the text accompanying their picture read "we all counted on you"?

Are they random unnamed members of the Collective?

Is the one in the middle (the only one who looks male) Swain?

I think this deserves more attention.


They're probably just random Collective members. After all, the Observer only gave the names of the ones that he said are relevant in some way.

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Okay, as far as I can tell, these are the events from Noah's perspective. Correct me if I'm wrong:

- Noah sees his future self. Future Noah takes Noah back in time to "The Device" where Present Noah delivers the ball to the closet.
- Future Noah sends Present Noah to the "November 11th" video. Noah walks in and sees his past self.
- Slenderman appears and abducts both Past and Present Noah. Past Noah wakes up with his shirt off a week later, as shown in Nov 11th. Present Noah "Wakes up" as his collective self and becomes Firebrand.
- Firebrand interrupts the Observers' broadcast in "INTERCEPTION"
- Firebrand does everything Future Noah did (Takes Noah to the closet, sends him to the hotel.)
- Firebrand goes back to the "Present" and turns back into Noah. Noah barfs.
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Peppercorn
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Since Noah delivered the rubber ball to his past self, which the Observer told him to do, would that basically mean Firebrand did everything he was meant to do for the Collective, except that he didn't let them take Noah?

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RabidRabbitable.
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Peppercorn wrote:
Since Noah delivered the rubber ball to his past self, which the Observer told him to do, would that basically mean Firebrand did everything he was meant to do for the Collective, except that he didn't let them take Noah?

Maybe Firebrand isn't a good guy. He's in the Collective for a reason right? And he did lead Noah to do exactly what the Observer wanted. Maybe it's all just a way to gain Noah's trust so he's more willing to gradually turn into Firebrand.

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TheLonelyLemon
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RabidRabbitable. wrote:
Peppercorn wrote:
Since Noah delivered the rubber ball to his past self, which the Observer told him to do, would that basically mean Firebrand did everything he was meant to do for the Collective, except that he didn't let them take Noah?

Maybe Firebrand isn't a good guy. He's in the Collective for a reason right? And he did lead Noah to do exactly what the Observer wanted. Maybe it's all just a way to gain Noah's trust so he's more willing to gradually turn into Firebrand.


That's what I was thinking. I don't think we should trust Firebrand 100% yet. He is a part of the collective, right? I think they used Noahbrand to work with Noah because they're the same person! Noah trusted Noahbrand immediately.

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Peppercorn
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TheLonelyLemon wrote:
RabidRabbitable. wrote:
Peppercorn wrote:
Since Noah delivered the rubber ball to his past self, which the Observer told him to do, would that basically mean Firebrand did everything he was meant to do for the Collective, except that he didn't let them take Noah?

Maybe Firebrand isn't a good guy. He's in the Collective for a reason right? And he did lead Noah to do exactly what the Observer wanted. Maybe it's all just a way to gain Noah's trust so he's more willing to gradually turn into Firebrand.


That's what I was thinking. I don't think we should trust Firebrand 100% yet. He is a part of the collective, right? I think they used Noahbrand to work with Noah because they're the same person! Noah trusted Noahbrand immediately.


Yeah, that's all possible. I just mean, if Firebrand IS on Noah's side.

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FalloutGhoul
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So yeah, my mind was fucking blown when it turns out Noah either IS Firebrand, or was sent back in time by Firebrand, yet I was also disappointed because I personally thought that either Noah's old friend Liam, or even Milo, would be Firebrand, but whatever; Noah's choice.

And also, Firebrand Noah says "You're Fucking Welcome." Laughing

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SaigoSentinel
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
So yeah, my mind was fucking blown when it turns out Noah either IS Firebrand, or was sent back in time by Firebrand, yet I was also disappointed because I personally thought that either Noah's old friend Liam, or even Milo, would be Firebrand, but whatever; Noah's choice.

And also, Firebrand Noah says "You're Fucking Welcome." Laughing


At first, I was a fan of "Milo is Firebrand," but it would be impossible due to the real life actor and Adam not being friends anymore. As for Liam, he literally hasn't been mentioned at all in any plot videos, so I immediately debunked that in my head. Sure, he might have been mentioned in a livestream or something, but he had literally NO impact on the story. :/

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