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Sin Vraal
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speculation

jrc wrote:

The Captain shoots the dealer because he had previously dealt him 7-deuce four hands in a row. 7-2 would be the worst hole cards because they cannot form a straight, are low, and are not paired. So referring to them as a bad hand makes sense. However, later, he is cheering for 2 and 7 because one of those will give him a straight.

Mulligan's Holy Mackerel could be an H, but I am more inclined to think either M for Mackerel or just F for fish, if it is a letter clue. Mulligan calls it a mackerel, the narrators refer to it as a fish. Mulligan says it is "a good card" (although he does not seem very discriminating). Some relation to Church St makes sense maybe, or since it is not just a fish, but "a Go-Fish card", maybe it refers to actually fishing somewhere.

Tom switches jacks for queens (same suits). The J train runs to Queens, of course, but since queens are so obvious, I don't weight that much. The Captain was burning two queens (not the same suits as Tom's later hand) and said he hated his cards. Since a pair of queens would not be a bad hand, clearly he hates queens, or Queens. If they had been the same suit as Tom's hand later, maybe he would be saying that he hated them because Tom won with them, but I don't think that is it.

Crothers K-8. Kate??

I had a similar idea to what's above and also to one that someone on here made me think of, and I'm sorry but I can't find the post or I'd quote it directly.

Let's say we start at Columbus Circle. That makes sense, Episode 2 and all, right? There just doesn't seem to be much in the way of directions except the blue line being "the right track" and again at the end reminding you of the subway. So I feel like we're not supposed to know where to go yet.

So then I'm thinking A train (blue), go 8 stops. Aces and 8s, the dead man's hand, which is pretty much the first part of Episode 5 (yes, I'm skipping episode 4 for reasons everyone else suggested earlier). That puts me at Canal Street, looking at the map. And now I think of "go fish" again, which seems to jive so nicely with canal. But it does other places too... the fifth episode is all about cheating, and let me tell you, on Canal Street there in the heart of Chinatown, you got all sorts of cheaters gambling and selling fake jewelry and handbags... I got a good mental picture of "you etted the ice cream" for "dairy" thinking about that.

What else do I see that I like about it... this isn't far from the site of the World Trade Center ("World" PPP Tournament) and Cortland Street (remember the 5 ports of Cortlandt from Episode 2)? There's also Church Street right there, which as JRC above mentioned, could very well go with the holy mackerel. Canals and churches, holy mackerels, go fish.

As for the sponsors not having clues, well, I find it very funny that when I go to marchingdog.com (the sponsor for WPPPT) and look at their QUEENS (as in Tom's winning set of queens, and the pair of queens Captain had), there's a reference to... what else... but an Evil Dead reference! (remember the ram-o-cam?)

And really, I love any excuse to be downtown, especially so close to 9/11 and all.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:19 pm

SpyGuySailor
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Re: lyrics to Tom Jones' Delilah
this is Black Tom's favorite song

jrc wrote:

Ick.

I second that!

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:36 pm

jrc
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Ram O Cam

At 0:41-0:42, when the full width of the Ram O' Cam poster is in the shot, all those bits of shapes remind me of the fragments of Crothers sleeves in the 2nd video. In that shot, one of the fragments looked like a boot, one looked like a Star Trek insignia, and there were a couple other odd ones. Do any of the shapes look meaningful to you?

S&R camera does not appear to exist on the web, except google finds one IEEE journal article, though going there does not reveal it anywhere on the page (even with a subscription). Maybe it is Raimi and Spiegel?

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:47 pm

UDbmas
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:37 pm
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fellowtraveler
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I just assumed that S&R = Sam Raimi.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:51 am

BrooklyNYC
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FOUR!!!

hey guys,

just going over a couple of the transcripts F.T. provided...very cool.

Episode 5 -----
when capt'n lit the bomb and it exploded, it made a circle and revealed the chest (which by the way i thought was the coolest W.L.O.G. video moment thus far, i really felt all sneaky like) it seemed to resemble a "hole", one that you would find on a golf course.

there does seem to be a few golf references here. (mulligan, the number 4, crows-nest perhaps meaning eagle or birdie?)

the felt might also mean that the chest is located in an area with artificial turf.

if not the game of golf or the course, maybe a field?

has someone already thought of this? i wouldn't want to beat a dead man's hand.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:00 am

Bryan9796
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hey im new so i have yet to read all 80 pages, and someone may have said this, but in the video, the dealer puts down a queen (of diamonds?)and says flush, so would that be flushing queens?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:19 am

mlssry
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Bryan9796 wrote:

hey im new so i have yet to read all 80 pages, and someone may have said this, but in the video, the dealer puts down a queen (of diamonds?)and says flush, so would that be flushing queens?

First card on the flop was a queen of hearts followed by the king of hearts and 6 of spades.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:02 am

mlssry
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Re: FOUR!!!

BrooklyNYC wrote:

First thing it made me think of was a combination lock .....hope that's not it because I don't know what the combination would be?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:04 am

b8sbal3
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Some clues being overlooked?

First of all, I think that everybody has done a great job breaking down this episode so far, but there are two clues that I pulled from the episode that I think are not to be overlooked.

1) The captain's reference to the giant sea turtle.....WAY too random to not be a clue of some sort.

2) The total prize pool $7,174. Again, too random to not be of value. Why not make it 10,000? Another way to look at this is maybe the significant number is the amount "missing" they say that the beginning that they are playing for $10,000, yet at the end only $7,174 remains. That means that $2,826 is missing. At the same time, the bird says "double down" which is a black jack term and has no meaning at the poker table. Maybe it is just comic relief, or maybe it means to divide one of these numbers by two "doubling down".....those options would be $3,587 (cant find any real significance there) or $1413......(we have seen those numbers a lot).

Thoughts?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:27 am

b8sbal3
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Running themes

I think that it is also important to keep in mind the various "running themes" that have carried over from episode to episode as well as these will no doubt tell us details about the soecific location once the videos establish the general location. So far, I have identified these:

1) "Tutty"
2) Crows nest
3) Roosevelt (and Presidents in general)
4) the numbers 1,2,3,4 (in various combinations and orders)
5) "Shooting people IN THE FACE (always goes out of their way to say in the face....)

Am I missing any? Are any of these too weak to include?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:32 am

jrc
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Re: Some clues being overlooked?

b8sbal3 wrote:

1) The captain's reference to the giant sea turtle.....WAY too random to not be a clue of some sort.

I thought I had posted this, but I guess not. The "giant turtle movie" is The Bermuda Depths (1978). Kind of a horror movie, more of a weird fantasy, it sounds like. I've never seen it.

b8sbal3 wrote:

2) The total prize pool $7,174. Again, too random to not be of value. Why not make it 10,000?

The total is 10,000. Since Mulligan has an initially much higher total than the others, when they are all "all in", he has some left over, so the pot is right. Some combination of the numbers still are likely to mean something. Since one can find some significance to almost any number, it may be difficult to narrow it down. "Double down" meaning "divide by two" is a good thought, but it could just as well mean to double something. And which thing should be doubled or halved?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:47 am

mlssry
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Re: Some clues being overlooked?

b8sbal3 wrote:

Did he say giant sea turtle or just giant turtle?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:50 am

jrc
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Crows nest has been missing

In the last two episodes, there hasn't been any mention of the crows nest at all. Of course, episode 4 had very little in it of anything.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:52 am

UDbmas
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:58 am
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