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[Spoonsy]

Re: The fortifications are in a "zone"

[SoloJoe]

Snake?

[SoloJoe]

One more thing

[jrc]

King Kong

[Cap'n Slim]

also?

[SpyGuySailor]

Re: King Kong

[fellowtraveler]

As promised here is my analysis of the sixth episode. At the outset I think that the comic in this episode is depicting two real New York City locations, namely a prominent cemetery, and a place where more than one fort can be "seen" (at least one of which may have been used by the British at one point). I think that we are meant to leave the subway to get to the cemetery location, and that the compass heading we were given at the end of Episode Five (north-northwest) is a major clue to finding this episode's starting location.

As evidence, note the fact that Crothers states that even if we stopped at the "next port" (meaning the next subway station from the last clue given in the fifth episode), following the north-northwest compass heading should put us right behind them (i.e. near the cemetery).

According to my research, the largest and highest profile cemeteries in New York City are the Green-Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn, Calvary Cemetery in Queens, Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx, the Trinity Church Cemetery in Manhattan, the New York Marble Cemetery in Manhattan, the Cedar Grove Cemetery in Queens, and the Moravian Cemetery on Staten Island.

Assuming however, that we were meant to be either in Brooklyn or Queens at the end of Episode Five (which I think is the consensus on these forums), we should focus on cemeteries in those boroughs. The closest cemetery to the northwest of the Aquaduct in Brooklyn is the Bayside Acacia Cemetery (there are actually some other cemeteries nearby as part of the same complex). Further northwest is Cypress Hills Cemetery, which might be a strong possibility since it was used by Marvel Comics as the fictional headquarters of The Midnight Sons (a possible connection to the comic book device used in this episode). Cypress Hills Cemetery is actually only one of more than a dozen cemeteries which are close to one another in that area, the most prominent of which is the Cemetery of the Evergreens. Other potential cemeteries of interest are Washington Cemetery, and the Holy Cross Cemetery.

I agree with SoloJoe that the first panel on the seventh page of the comic (depicting the statue of an angel holding a cross) may be a clue to the cemetery in question. It would be nice to be able to find a monument in a particular cemetery in New York which matches the drawing. However, after spending some time searching through Flickr and Google Images, and locating many pictures of statues of angels holding crosses in cemeteries, I could not find any which matched the drawing exactly.

Thus, on further reflection, I think that we are perhaps not meant to find an exact match. Having to do so would make this clue far too difficult to solve in my opinion, considering the number of cemeteries and monuments that would need to be checked. If the statue's design was more well-known then it might have been fair game.

That said, I do not know which of the cemeteries I list above is the best location. My personal belief is that it is one of the cemeteries in Brooklyn - perhaps the Bayside Acacia Cemetery or Green-Wood Cemetery.

The next clue is that the crew returns to the MADDIE HAYES and make an ocean voyage. This suggests to me that the cemetery location may be separated from their destination (where the forts are located) by a body of water.

Turning to the forts, I note that Fort Hamilton and Fort Wadsworth lie directly opposite each other on either end of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. Of course, that means Fort Lafayette would also have been right next to Fort Hamilton since Fort Lafayette was demolished to make room for the supports for the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. And of course, as UDbmas mentioned, Fort Wadsworth is itself composed of many smaller fort-like structures, so Fort Wadsworth alone could likely fulfill all the requirements for the location.

Fort Wood can be ruled out because it is too remote (being on Liberty Island). Fort Schuyler is similarly too far out in the Bronx to be connected to the last location. Granted, Fort Totten sits just across from Fort Schuyler but they are separated by quite a distance, and in any event, neither of the forts are connected to the British in any way. Fort Washington is also way too far from our last location, and the only nearby fort is Fort Lee in New Jersey. Not to mention the fact that Fort Washington doesn't exist anymore.

However, even though it too no longer exists today, Fort Amsterdam is a genuine possibility. It was occupied by the British for many years and was located in lower Manhattan near Castle Clinton (satisfying the two forts requirement). For the same reason Fort Jay and Castle Williams on Governors Island are also strong contenders. Both are deeply connected to the British and are definitely separated by a body of water from any cemeteries.

To sum up, I think that the most likely solutions for the locations of the forts are Fort Wadsworth/Fort Hamilton in Staten Island/Brooklyn, Fort Amsterdam/Castle Clinton in lower Manhattan, and Fort Jay/Castle Williams on Governors Island.

The points in favor of the Fort Wadsworth/Fort Hamilton option is that it is somewhat near Green-Wood Cemetery and Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn, and getting to Fort Wadsworth requires the crossing of a body of water. Although there is no ferry service connecting the two forts, you could use the bridge to cross the river.

The Fort Amsterdam/Castle Clinton solution is problematic since there is no direct connection between any of the cemeteries which fit the solution and these forts.

The advantage of the Fort Jay/Castle Williams solution is that there are ferry services which connect Brooklyn with Governors Island. Free weekend ferry service departs from Pier 6 at the southern end of Brooklyn Bridge Park at the foot of Atlantic Avenue, and during the summer a separate fee-based ferry service runs from Fulton Ferry (near Empire Fulton Ferry State Park) in DUMBO. The problem is that neither of these launches are particularly close to any cemeteries in Brooklyn. The closest is Green-Wood Cemetery which is pretty far to the southeast.

After the clue about the location with the two forts, the last clue shown is the advertisement for GENERAL ANESTHETIC's TOOTH CLEANING WORKOUT KIT, which as I noted in a post above, lists a telephone number that, when called, provides us with a string of numbers: 20-17-16-14-21-12-8. Frankly, I have no idea how to process these numbers. They could indicate GPS coordinates, but I will defer to someone more knowledgable about that. My preliminary attempt to interpret them as GPS coordinates charted a location somewhere on the coast of Africa.

It is possible that we are meant to perform a mathematical operation on the numbers to derive a second set of numbers. I note that the message contained an odd number of numbers, such that it might make sense to have each number perform as a mathematical operator on its neighbor to the right or left. For example, the absolute values of the differences between each "pair" of numbers is 3-1-2-5-9-4. Or relying on the reference to eight as being the number of the "treasure ball" you could divide each of the other numbers by eight and record the remainders, giving you 4-1-0-6-5-4. Honestly, there are a lot of possibilities. One of the more daunting of which, is that perhaps we are also meant to take into account some of the numbers found in the "CLASSIC W.L.O.G. T'S!!!" advertisement or in the disclaimer text peppered throughout the other advertisements.

[jrc]

Re: King Kong

[Dragonswood]

 

[tammyrichards43]

G A

[tammyrichards43]

Subway trains

[jrc]

The wonders of google finding probably irrelevant connection

[SpyGuySailor]

symbol I keep seeing in vids

[mlssry]

I believe the numbers are a LOST homage lol
They are lottery numbers...They equal 108 just like in lost.....they also gave us those numbers outside of the episodes sort of like lost had numbers to call and fake commercials and websites to go with the show.
Lost had six numbers and we have 7 though....so maybe they are important ??
BTW I'm still quite pissed about the way that ended (LOST I mean, not our latest WLOG episode)lol

[danielos]